Mandalay Wrote:Hmm...What happens if you already AEE'ed something to, say, 1 star? Are you able to "mix" AEE'ing and MEE'ing an item? If you used AEE for Star 1, but MEE'ed the rest, would that just mean you'd be lacking 17 main/2nd stat at the very end?

CrazyForDex Wrote:Lol MEEs spell the death of regular enhancements.

If you are enhancing a weapon with over 200 attack, is it worth it to MEE over AEE if you are only shooting for 8~ stars? I understand there is a large stat bonus from MEEs, but considering AEEs would give you 5 attacl per star, I'm wondering if that extra stat is really worth the loss of attack.

Heero Wrote:I'd go with the 5-star EE scroll on the weapon, then start MEE'ing from the 6th star on. Really curious how there isn't an ss of a weapon being MEE'd.

SaptaZapta Wrote:But I believe that for almost everyone, 17 allstat is worth more than 5 attack.

Stereo Wrote:Well, also depends how many other MEE'd/Tempest equips you have... if you're only getting through the first few MEE stars you could be pushing towards +1000 stats without a huge attack increase, and that does weigh in favour of +atk again.


MEEs have made me not too excited about +5 star EEs though :/ I guess they're good for weapons.

SaptaZapta Wrote:And for Superior equips?

Heero Wrote:Really curious how there isn't an ss of a weapon being MEE'd.

Justin Wrote:So basically we have to rescroll EVERYTHING now if we've already enhanced them. Just fucking wonderful.

iAmFear Wrote:you get a time limited All Stats+13, ATK/MATK +13 medal

iAmFear Wrote:You get a time limited All Stats+13, ATK/MATK +13 medal and a random Tyrant equip (keep in mind that protection scrolls/shielding wards only work to the 12th star).

Chilly Wrote:I was actually thinking that the MEEs might work just like (A)EEs on weapons plus their bonuses; using that DBG I worked 105 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 120, 120 + (3 + 6) + (3 + 7) = 139. Of course this doesn't jive with the 143 that the DBG ends up with, but an 8 + 9 would get it there, but that doesn't fit the formula. A fun little puzzle indeed, a look at the other equips and guessing might get a clearer picture, but it would still be a guess due to the variables you already mentioned.

Takebacker Wrote:Enhancing things that aren't a weapon is a retard move to begin with. I only have 1 on all my s'hit.

If you're telling me you have 8+ enhances on all your non-weapon items, you're hilarious.

Justin Wrote:Oh god no I'm not THAT bad, I just have a few equips with around 4 enhances (My overall, namely because of the defense. I'm weird like that.) But I'm just being a stat whore and saying that even ONE star is a LOT of wasted stats because it wasn't enhanced with an MEE.

 Spoiler

That's a level 130 version of the 110 Pirate (Canopus) Gloves, and they've got Decent SE, best part, completely tradeable still. (Except his, because, you know, the item lock and all)

But I saw a level 70 pair of Half Earrings with 9% of something I can't remember now. Hmm, I'm guessing the tier is still the same, but the new levels fulfill the level requirements for certain potentials, for example, 30%/40% Boss Damage at Unique/Legendary for 100+, Decent Skills, of course. It's not like they just don't exist for levels under their requirements, and that's why you can't get them on lower leveled equips, no, like, Decent Skills are defined for all level ranges, from 1~10, 11~20, all the way up to 191~200, it's just the level requirement that stops you from getting Decent SE on a level 10 glove. So, I guess a visual example is in order:

In the data it'd be something like Potential ID, then a number representing a level range, and what it does, but approximately, I can describe it as:

Potential: Decent SE
Required Level: 120
1 (meaning level 1 to 10): Enables Decent Sharp Eyes
2: Enables Decent Sharp Eyes
...
10: Enables Decent Sharp Eyes
11: Enables Decent Sharp Eyes <- This is the level 101 to 110 range. Technically, I'm guessing we're still here.
12: Enables Decent Sharp Eyes
...
20: Enables Decent Sharp Eyes

We're still in Range 11, but the glove is 130, which means it fulfills the level requirement, but it's still 110, technically, but that's fine, because there's an effect for 110 gloves, which is just to give you Decent SE, which it can do, because it fulfills the level requirement by being 130.

But then, why doesn't it show up on lower leveled gloves? Does it roll for Decent SE and the game just goes, no, it's not high enough, try again?

I guess, if we get level 65 pants that are actually level 80 without Decent HB, we'd know. But wait, it's hard to prove something based on not having something happen based on chance, because you could just be really unlucky...

But then, reduced levels actually show up as a stat line, like "Equip Level Requirement: -x", while increased levels are just... like there, so maybe that's a significant difference.

Oh wait, what I was looking for is an item that crosses tiers, like level 60 pants that are level 80, but with 2/4/6% stats. Oh wait, I think only 80~110 stuff is capable of having level fluctuations. Tricky, Nexon.

Eh, whatever, you guys don't care about this, you're just happy there's tradeable Decent Skill items, which is very nice. They might not be common, but it's still good.

Well, maybe, it looks like it's from an earlier version of the new equip description UI, which I'm not sure was in the live server, so maybe this is Tespia, I dunno, but I doubt it's Tespia.

iAmFear Wrote:Hmm, I'm guessing the tier is still the same, but the new levels fulfill the level requirements for certain potentials, for example, 30%/40% Boss Damage at Unique/Legendary for 100+, Decent Skills, of course.