Sivrat Wrote:Rusty, you mentioned before that you also trained at WS. Was that good? Because im level 80 now, and actually cant find leech. Wouldnt mind training, but really dont have much of a guide as to how to mob best. Should i just consistantly BSB > Turn > SSK > Turn > BSB etc? Or should i BSB > SSK till dead, and did you do both sides then bottom, i am assuming.

Also, since i now have (nearly) max SM, 11 SHockwave, and 1 transform, what level of Energy charge should i start putting points into blast for. Because quite frankly first few levels of both charge and blast seem like it would just slow me down. But having the energy charge activated would at least do some extra damage, so i was thinking getting that to 11 or 14, then either 2 charge 1 blast, or just get blast to 11 and then 2:1 it till both are maxed.

DrRusty Wrote:You don't stun the gobis, just the houses and bonefish. Gobis I just do sommersault when they spawn, blast, sommersault, repeat. I usually kill them by the 2nd blast. I'll see if I can frap a short training session or something to show how I train there. I don't have a z helm and I'm still using a 100%'d lvl 50 knuckle so my damage will be anything but spectacular, but I think it'll get the point across. I can actually kill there almost as effeciently as my bandit, at the same level, and fully equipped.

NoWaizMatt Wrote:Mmm, neat. When would I be able to go? I'm at:

Level 72

3 Shockwave
2 Transform
2 Stun

Kasuhitomi Wrote:One thing I auto-dislike about a Pirate (except for Gunslingers, since they have range), is that they take too much bump damage, judging by that video of your's, Rusty. My DK took a lot of bump-damage too, but I had HB, so I was always at or near 10k HP at lv 10X. I believe at your level, you'd have around 4-5k HP? A bit more than NLs, I believe.

Thief + warrior = pirate, lol.

Also, it's great to see how many people here are experimenting with Pirate builds and everything, pretty intriguing, I usually stop by just to read experimental stuff.

Dusk Wrote:Wow, you still use Somersault Kick (which isn't enhanced by 2nd and 3rd job skills) at 114? That's impressive staying power. I do sometimes use it on my Outlaw when I forget I have other "melee" attacks, though

And yeah, I guess I can see why Marauders were given such a ridiculous avoid formula.

One thing that really turns me away from Brawlers is that there's too much...brawling <_< You switched between a 1st job 6-target skill and a 3rd job 4-target skill to attack a mob of six, repeatedly taking damage from surroundings and shrugging it off. It felt out of control. Is training in other places the same way?

Dusk Wrote:Wow, you still use Somersault Kick (which isn't enhanced by 2nd and 3rd job skills) at 114? That's impressive staying power. I do sometimes use it on my Outlaw when I forget I have other "melee" attacks, though

And yeah, I guess I can see why Marauders were given such a ridiculous avoid formula.

One thing that really turns me away from Brawlers is that there's too much...brawling <_< You switched between a 1st job 6-target skill and a 3rd job 4-target skill to attack a mob of six, repeatedly taking damage from surroundings and shrugging it off. It felt out of control. Is training in other places the same way?

WolvenZX Wrote:Actually, it is enhanced with stun mastery if you stun monsters before you SK them, also on the staying power, crusaders and wks use slashblast/powerstrike up til 120 as well :3

Quote:Wow, you still use Somersault Kick (which isn't enhanced by 2nd and 3rd job skills)

Takebacker Wrote:Amazing video rusty. What i don't understand is why you're DUing -> backspin. O_o Wouldn't DU -> blast be more effective? I'd love to see you fully equipped at gobies though.

@ justin: Demolition stuns!?

Dunno if i should be surprised or whatever though, since fist/barrage stuns too. o.o

DrRusty Wrote:I do DU -> backspin because it's the only way to keep the houses stunned. Other classes are slowed down at gobis because the houses invincible up after 1 or 2 hits.

DrRusty Wrote:I do DU -> backspin because it's the only way to keep the houses stunned. Other classes are slowed down at gobis because the houses invincible up after 1 or 2 hits.

ShiKage Wrote:Does this answer your question?

Takebacker Wrote:@ justin: Demolition stuns!?

Dunno if i should be surprised or whatever though, since fist/barrage stuns too. o.o

WolvenZX Wrote:Yea I found the demo stun to be awesome as well, but on the fist/barrage thing, that is incorrect, it looks like it stuns because he uses a double uppercut or backspin right after he finishes the six hits

on another thing, anyone find it odd that like 5/6 or 6/6 of those barrage hits were crits, while only like half of the demo hits were crits