DrRusty Wrote:Stun mastery gives 60% chance to stun for 60% damage, which If I remember right is higher than any other class.

Stun mastery is the only 3rd job move that's actually active all the time. So maxing it first only makes sense.

I recommend doing a build like this -
Max stun mastery
Energy charge lvl 12 (lvl it gives 13 atk)
Energy blast lvl 11 (lvl it hits 3 monsters)
Max Energy Charge
Max Energy Blast
Rest = doesn't really matter


Having maxed stun mastery and lvl 11 energy blast helps quite a bit. You can backspin to stun 3 monsters, then hit all 3 with a nice energy blast for a high chance of critical damage.

I recommend maxing energy charge before blast because what good is blast if you can hardly use it. Not to mention energy charge is just the sexiest skill EVER!! Having hella beefed up power gaurd damage, free cider dmg, friggin stance during 3rd job.......... I mean goddam this skill is all over the place.

Stereo Wrote:You have to multiply by number of shots, Bowman Critical will generally be x4 (Strafe) or x1 (Rain/Eruption), Hermit Critical will be x3 (L7), or x1.5 (Avenger/etc.)

I don't remember if Marauders get any x5-x6 hit skills but if they did that's where it would be better.


Or y'know, the fact that they can have a higher base range so 36% is a bigger boost than 40%.

Dusk Wrote:The 6-8 hit skills both take 2~3 times as long to execute as attacks for most other classes, and they have a high base % damage, so Crit doesn't do too much for them.

@Stereo: Bucs have the same W. Att as NLs using Ilbis, and a 4.8 multiplier instead of 5.0. Their base range is about the same as a BM's.

Dusk Wrote:@Stereo: Bucs have the same W. Att as NLs using Ilbis, and a 4.8 multiplier instead of 5.0. Their base range is about the same as a BM's.

Stereo Wrote:If so they beat BMs with apples I guess. Doesn't matter though I don't see why crits need comparing.

Dusk Wrote:The 6-8 hit skills both take 2~3 times as long to execute as attacks for most other classes, and they have a high base % damage, so Crit doesn't do too much for them.

@Stereo: Bucs have the same W. Att as NLs using Ilbis, and a 4.8 multiplier instead of 5.0. Their base range is about the same as a BM's.

TLeviathan Wrote:The last hit in Barrage (the 6 hit skill) has an awkward formula. SE raises my 16k crits to 44k+. The 5th hit is also higher than the first 4 as well, but not quite so much.

Takebacker Wrote:Is it awkward if it's been figured out? :X

SE does have an extremely noticeable effect though. A 14x viper shouldn't be able to hit 99,999 with barrage on the last hit until he's appled/demon elixer'd (the picture i'm referring to is in KMS, so this is impossible), and even then he'd have to be hitting his absolute maximum.

TLeviathan Wrote:It's awkward in the multiplier. It's (230+140)*4, with SE going in before. If I maxed barrage I'd be doing 99ks on the final crit with SE and no apple by 140. I assume It's 430% *4 for stunned enemies... doesn't seem like I could hit my 44ks without that.Though I should be hitting a bit higher than 44k, I never stayed long enough to test the max. I already know 16k isn't, as I do 15ks non-crit.

TLeviathan Wrote:Well, I have a se mule, so I can basically at will. Either way, It's basically 60%, 60%, 60%, 60%, 2*60%, 4%60% in total, so basically crit counts 10 times not 6 because of where it's multiplied.

Takebacker Wrote:Yet demo would still be 8 in total?

TLeviathan Wrote:I guess, the damage seems the same for each hit. Don't have it yet to test but I haven't seen any crazy numbers from se.

Takebacker Wrote:Oh really? That is weird. :X

Russt Wrote:It's not weird at all. Every critical works like that.