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Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Moonlapse - 2012-11-28

Finally I can wear my empress overall.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Curtiss - 2012-11-28

Thorr Wrote:What nerf did it get that we don't already have? We already have the cooldown when changing skills.

That would be a major goof on my part unless they released the nerf separately. Just checking, does maxed Prayer of Aria still give 30% damage or 20%?


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Thorr - 2012-11-28

Curtiss Wrote:That would be a major goof on my part unless they released the nerf separately. Just checking, does maxed Prayer of Aria still give 30% damage or 20%?

I had forgotten about that one. I think the only thing we got was the cooldown notice on the skill description (the one that says Buff Skill Cooldown -60). The other pieces have not been changed. This is also true for the Corsair changes as well. We haven't got any of the meaty changes yet. Forgive my confusion.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Curtiss - 2012-11-28

Thorr Wrote:I had forgotten about that one. I think the only thing we got was the cooldown notice on the skill description. The other pieces have not been changed. This is also true for the Corsair changes as well.

Got it. That's why I was confused, the Phantom nerfs are all supposed to happen during the Tempest prelude along with the 30% RF damage shift to another Corsair skill so only Phantoms get affected by the damage nerf.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Thorr - 2012-11-28

Curtiss Wrote:Got it. That's why I was confused, the Phantom nerfs are all supposed to happen during the Tempest prelude along with the 30% RF damage shift to another Corsair skill so only Phantoms get affected by the damage nerf.

The Aria change is a loss, but I think the worse loss is from lowering Crit Rate from 50 to 30 in Piercing Vision.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Curtiss - 2012-11-28

Thorr Wrote:The Aria change is a loss, but I think the worse loss is from lowering Crit Rate from 50 to 30 in Piercing Vision.

I agree with that. That's why an integral part of my preparation for this nerf (unfortunately) includes aiming for 30% critical from Aswan, aiming for LUK% + DSE on my RHC Gloves and preparing a Marksman during the second Archer Revamp as it'd bring my total to 5% + 10% + 10% from Explorer Ring + 30% IA + 10% DSE + 30% Piercing Vision + 3% MM bonus= 98% critical. I figure Judgement Draw's extra critical rate (10 % > 20% after the nerf) should cover for the missing 2% most of the time and you can get 10% critical from your Hyper Skill at level 198 so you'd be maxing out at 100% at level 200.

As for why I'm not counting on Sharp Eyes, my current damage range isn't so high that I can forego Rapid Fire on bosses easily. Rolleyes The extra boost on critical damage on normal SE is good though.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - ChronosXIII - 2012-11-28

Curtiss Wrote:That would be a major goof on my part unless they released the nerf separately. Just checking, does maxed Prayer of Aria still give 30% damage or 20%?

It's still 30%-->20% at max.

But wait, it gets better worse.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - 66alex66 - 2012-11-28

Curtiss Wrote:I agree with that. That's why an integral part of my preparation for this nerf (unfortunately) includes aiming for 30% critical from Aswan, aiming for LUK% + DSE on my RHC Gloves and preparing a Marksman during the second Archer Revamp as it'd bring my total to 5% + 10% + 10% from Explorer Ring + 30% IA + 10% DSE + 30% Piercing Vision + 3% MM bonus= 98% critical. I figure Judgement Draw's extra critical rate (10 % > 20% after the nerf) should cover for the missing 2% most of the time and you can get 10% critical from your Hyper Skill at level 198 so you'd be maxing out at 100% at level 200.

As for why I'm not counting on Sharp Eyes, my current damage range isn't so high that I can forego Rapid Fire on bosses easily. Rolleyes The extra boost on critical damage on normal SE is good though.

Don't assume you're gonna get 30% crit from Azwan. What will really happen is you will get like 23% after days upon days of clearing Azwan. However the left over will probably be covered by Judgment Draw, so even getting 12% from azwan will put you at 100%.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Curtiss - 2012-11-28

66alex66 Wrote:Don't assume you're gonna get 30% crit from Azwan. What will really happen is you will get like 23% after days upon days of clearing Azwan. However the left over will probably be covered by Judgment Draw, so even getting 12% from azwan will put you at 100%.

Doesn't hurt to aim there, though I will actually withdraw if I get critical and boss % since there's still the Hyper Skill and there's a very high chance that Phantom's link skill will be upgraded which will give them additional critical rate, plus I don't know if my cubing might have a critical% along with two useful lines (I'm obviously not relying on this though as I prefer two boss% and one line of PDR ignore).

Edit: I've read that too. Sad, but I still do find Phantom more entertaining than the other classes I've played so I can live with it.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Satellite - 2012-11-28

FangelXIII Wrote:Here's hoping that they patch through tonight and we get the patch notice today. They said 29th, but they didn't say if that was the patch finish time or start time.
Events seem to end today (28th) so I'm willing to bet (hoping) that they'll start like 0:00 on 29th. There's no patch notice yet though.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - HelloTony - 2012-11-28

I spoke with ErilexusDEM in game today, he confirmed the patch will be taking place tonight. Helpful GMs are helpful.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - MissingLink - 2012-11-28

ChronosXIII Wrote:It's still 30%-->20% at max.

But wait, it gets better worse.

Wow I didn't realize how badly Phantoms got nerfed. I don't follow obscure damage threads like that one.
OrangeMushroom called it a 'small nerf' back in the summer when it hit KMS. It's not small at all with the additional nerfs to stolen skills.

Just got my Phantom to 4th job a few days ago. Effing nexon and their dirty tricks. They think no one should play a class more than a few months.


Calling all Maplers! The Tempest Approaches! - Curtiss - 2012-11-28

MissingLink Wrote:Wow I didn't realize how badly Phantoms got nerfed. I don't follow obscure damage threads like that one.
OrangeMushroom called it a 'small nerf' back in the summer when it hit KMS. It's not small at all with the additional nerfs to stolen skills.

Just got my Phantom to 4th job a few days ago. Effing nexon and their dirty tricks. They think no one should play a class more than a few months.

Tell that to Angelic Burster. But just to clarify, wasn't that change only applied to magic attacks?