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US ambassador killed - Flonne - 2012-09-12
PirateIzzy Wrote:I did read it, in fact.
It's amazing how so many people insult Mohammed, but if someone says something about Christianity then everyone bashes that person.
Look, I'm not taking sides or anything, I don't like any of the religions, but, he married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was around 9, doesn't that...make him...a child molester? By definition? Or am I missing something super-de-duper major here.
I'm sure Jesus did some fucked up things too in the name of "the greater good", and that most of his life is either exaggerated or flat faked, but something about a guy that marries a ton of rich older women and underage girls seems a bit more shady to me than a semi-crazy hippy wandering around with some 'bros.
US ambassador killed - Corn - 2012-09-12
PirateIzzy Wrote:I did read it, in fact.
It's amazing how so many people insult Mohammed, but if someone says something about Christianity then everyone bashes that person.
Oh, because as soon as I read the claim "Jesus is God," I stopped reading.
Flonne Wrote:Look, I'm not taking sides or anything, I don't like any of the religions, but, he married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was around 9, doesn't that...make him...a child molester? By definition? Or am I missing something super-de-duper major here.
I'm sure Jesus did some fucked up things too in the name of "the greater good", and that most of his life is either exaggerated or flat faked, but something about a guy that marries a ton of rich older women and underage girls seems a bit more shady to me than a semi-crazy hippy wandering around with some 'bros.
And this is coming from a...well, half the forum probably knows it already. So...yeah. And how in the world did this article shift to being about religion?
US ambassador killed - Corn - 2012-09-12
Of course, if you really want to bash Christianity, instead of making assumptions like Jesus = God, you could pull stuff like
http://www.cracked.com/article_18757_5-things-you-wont-believe-arent-in-bible.html
and
http://www.cracked.com/article_16546_the-6-raunchiest-most-depraved-sex-acts-from-bible.html.
Oh man I loved Cracked.
US ambassador killed - SaptaZapta - 2012-09-12
PirateIzzy Wrote:I did read it, in fact.
It's amazing how so many people insult Mohammed, but if someone says something about Christianity then everyone bashes that person.
There's a big difference between "bashing" and sentencing to death.
There's an even bigger difference between executing the person insulting the prophet, and murdering random people who have nothing to do with the offending materials.
Last I heard, the movie "Life of Brian", which portrays Jesus as an idiot and makes a mockery of his entire tale, is readily available, and its creators allowed to live in peace and keep on creating irreverent materials as the mood takes them.
US ambassador killed - PirateIzzy - 2012-09-12
SaptaZapta Wrote:Last I heard, the movie "Life of Brian", which portrays Jesus as an idiot and makes a mockery of his entire tale, is readily available, and its creators allowed to live in peace and keep on creating irreverent materials as the mood takes them.
The reason for that PROBABLY is because in Islam, it is forbidden to draw pictures or make videos of Prophet Mohammed. I doubt it's forbidden to do the same with Jesus in Christianity.
US ambassador killed - Razmos - 2012-09-12
Corn Wrote:And this is coming from a...well, half the forum probably knows it already. So...yeah.And that seems like a rather unnecessary comment :/
Flonne was making a valid point that had nothing to do with that subject, so why bring it back up?
US ambassador killed - Corn - 2012-09-12
Razmos Wrote:And that seems like a rather unnecessary comment :/
Flonne was making a valid point that had nothing to do with that subject, so why bring it back up?
Alright, looking back, it is pretty harsh. Just did it to to reinforce his point. Sorry [MENTION=2088]Flonne[/MENTION] if you feel insulted.
US ambassador killed - Jamesie - 2012-09-12
PirateIzzy Wrote:The reason for that PROBABLY is because in Islam, it is forbidden to draw pictures or make videos of Prophet Mohammed. I doubt it's forbidden to do the same with Jesus in Christianity.And suddenly it is okay to kill someone.
[MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION]; Depending on what flavor of Christianity you are, Jesus is God (see: the Holy Trinity).
US ambassador killed - PirateIzzy - 2012-09-12
Jamesie Wrote:And suddenly it is okay to kill someone.
Never said that, but it still isn't right.
US ambassador killed - KhainiWest - 2012-09-12
Okay guy's this is a stupid argument, if you managed to watch the video, which I understand if you can't now since it has been blocked, was an amateur taping. I mean whether or not this video made fun of their "god" should be irrelevant considering how this was not a hate crime but something that looks like came from monty python. I mean this was extremely low budget.
It's even more humorous to me that most Muslims are pissed off about this than american's. I mean look at this guy; http://www.patheos.com/blogs/muslimahinprogress/
It's a blog but I see this tone everywhere right now. Classic mountain out of a mole hill.
US ambassador killed - SaptaZapta - 2012-09-12
PirateIzzy Wrote:The reason for that PROBABLY is because in Islam, it is forbidden to draw pictures or make videos of Prophet Mohammed. I doubt it's forbidden to do the same with Jesus in Christianity.
*shrug*
You were the one attempting to compare the Islamic reaction to defaming Mohammed to the Christian reaction to insulting Jesus.
They're not even in the same ballpark.
US ambassador killed - Corn - 2012-09-12
Jamesie Wrote:And suddenly it is okay to kill someone.
[MENTION=846]Corn[/MENTION]; Depending on what flavor of Christianity you are, Jesus is God (see: the Holy Trinity).
Since we're debating Mohammad as a normal person, I thought we were debating Jesus as a normal person without his divinity.
US ambassador killed - Jamesie - 2012-09-12
Corn Wrote:Since we're debating Mohammad as a normal person, I thought we were debating Jesus as a normal person without his divinity.That flew over my head, whoops.
US ambassador killed - Flonne - 2012-09-12
Corn Wrote:Alright, looking back, it is pretty harsh. Just did it to to reinforce his point. Sorry [MENTION=2088]Flonne[/MENTION] if you feel insulted.
It's fine, I don't really care that it's brought up as long as it isn't blatantly meant to flame me, it just had little to do with my argument, unless I have multiple personality disorder and lead a separate life where I have dozens of wives.
US ambassador killed - KhainiWest - 2012-09-12
Just wanna update, the event wasn't orchestrated because of the tape, is what they believe right now. Cairo is about to get bombed if they try to ram that embassy
US ambassador killed - Locked - 2012-09-12
http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI
US ambassador killed - KhainiWest - 2012-09-12
Locked Wrote:http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI
Wow thanks for posting that, that was very moving and that was the general feeling I was getting from the bloggers/posters concerning that.
US ambassador killed - Luxeraph - 2012-09-12
SaptaZapta Wrote:Last I heard, the movie "Life of Brian", which portrays Jesus as an idiot and makes a mockery of his entire tale, is readily available, and its creators allowed to live in peace and keep on creating irreverent materials as the mood takes them.
Islam is around 600 years younger than christianity, so to make it fair take that movie turn it into a book and travel back in time 600 years, now what other christians would have done to you if you shared said book (I know culture has changed world wide in the past 600 years but the religion itself could be seen as still young/valid)?
Also from time to time you see other religions doing the same and some movies sometime are banned from a country due how they talk/portrait some religion.
US ambassador killed - Flonne - 2012-09-13
Locked Wrote:http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI
That's actually pretty encouraging. People (the media) always polarize issues and portray one side as being totally right and the other as being totally wrong, when in reality most of those "in the wrong" don't even have a thing to do with it, it's really just a handful of insanely angry extremists.
US ambassador killed - Worthyness - 2012-09-13
Locked Wrote:http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI
LOL It took me WAY too long to realize that they meant "Prophet" when they wrote "profit" -___- It is WAYYY too late at night for me xD
Faith in humanity has been somewhat restored!