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Ignoring defence - Vanderlust - 2012-08-01

ShinkuDragon Wrote:no, since %ignore ignores a percentage of their defense, so if you ignore 100% of CPB's defense, you're ignoring all 180%. this is why the more def a boss has, the more effective ignore becomes, because it ignores larger chunks of defense.


you can use extractions or look for them in maplearchive, afaik P.Resist is always 50%, while P.Defense is variable and it's what PDR ignores.

A little off topic, but how would Chaos PB even work. Since, for example, I thought 40% PDR meant that you deal 60% of your full damage, would 180% PDR mean you would need ignorePDR/Boss %/Total damage that makes you deal over 180% of your full damage in order to do any damage to Chaos PB?


Ignoring defence - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2012-08-01

Vanderlust Wrote:A little off topic, but how would Chaos PB even work. Since, for example, I thought 40% PDR meant that you deal 60% of your full damage, would 180% PDR mean you would need ignorePDR/Boss %/Total damage that makes you deal over 180% of your full damage in order to do any damage to Chaos PB?

If I'm not mistaken, defense ignore isn't additive to their defenses. 100% def ignore would mean you ignore 100% of that 180%, less confusingly you would ignore 100% of their defenses... unless it changed, but I don't recall any change.

If it's 180% defense, and you have 40% defense ignore, you would ignore 72% because 40% of 180 = 72.


Ignoring defence - ShinkuDragon - 2012-08-01

PirateIzzy Wrote:...Except Physical defense and PDR are the same thing.

fine, "is what PDR ignore ignores" do i REALLY need to be that specific?


Ignoring defence - PirateIzzy - 2012-08-01

ShinkuDragon Wrote:fine, "is what PDR ignore ignores" do i REALLY need to be that specific?

I said that because PDR is the defense value. No need to get so angry.


Ignoring defence - ShinkuDragon - 2012-08-01

PirateIzzy Wrote:I said that because PDR is the defense value. No need to get so angry.
i dunno why it annoyed me so much, probs because when i do that "...except X is Y" it's usually in a condescending tone
Vanderlust Wrote:A little off topic, but how would Chaos PB even work. Since, for example, I thought 40% PDR meant that you deal 60% of your full damage, would 180% PDR mean you would need ignorePDR/Boss %/Total damage that makes you deal over 180% of your full damage in order to do any damage to Chaos PB?
it's
PeePeeAyeDeeKay Wrote:If I'm not mistaken, defense ignore isn't additive to their defenses. 100% def ignore would mean you ignore 100% of that 180%, less confusingly you would ignore 100% of their defenses... unless it changed, but I don't recall any change.

If it's 180% defense, and you have 40% defense ignore, you would ignore 72% because 40% of 180 = 72.
exactly this. that's how it works.


Ignoring defence - Untradeable - 2012-08-01

So basically

100% Ignore PDR=Ignore all PDR