JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5

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JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Kaasoljoyyx - 2008-11-25

Russt Wrote:Jank.

And Gunslingers don't have less attack than other classes. It's very nearly the same.

I think they're talking about the weapon attacks

i.e.

Craven avg = 46
Concerto average = 74
xbow = 98
bow = 95
spear = 107
sword = 105 [beheader]

etc... I have to check weapon formulas but I believe due to the "lower attack" for a weapon, weapon attack gives a bigger boost to gunslingers than say archers. I think this is also why it gives a big boost to NLs as claws have the lowest attack weapons so 1 weapon attack = more damage range than to another class.

Damage formulas have the info but i don't wanna go search them up.

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Beserker101 - 2008-11-25

Stars/bullets also add into the damage. It doesn't equalize it for sins but what about for gunslingers?

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Russt - 2008-11-25

Level 90 bullets are 18 attack, bringing Concerto up to 92. Much closer to the others.

Ilbis would bring the Craven up to 73, still a much more noticeable gap.

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Chompy - 2008-11-25

How about bowmen?
Can I champion me some bows? Glitter

They get the same lame bonuses and they don't have UBER SIN DAMAGE ACTION! Glitter

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - CJScarlet - 2008-11-25

Chompy Wrote:I DEMAND RANGED TO MELEE EQUALITY!!

First you go up and hug the monster you're killing, then we can talk equality Wink

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Stereo - 2008-11-25

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:Damage formulas have the info but i don't wanna go search them up.

Don't really need damage formulas to see the difference.

46 craven + 27 ilbis + 18 from other gear + 12 pots = 103 atk
81 craven + ... = 138 atk
102 pinaka + 18 from other gear + 12 pots = 132 atk
137 pinaka + ... = 167 atk

Thief gets 34% damage boost, DK gets 26% damage boost for perfect scrolling.

To even that out to 26% each, the thief would get +28 atk = +4 atk per scroll. How's that for equality? :x

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Molly - 2008-11-25

CJScarlet Wrote:First you go up and hug the monster you're killing, then we can talk equality

^ won the thread with that! <3

i noticed this too and coming from a mage perspective i was a lil confused...i mean, we can already hit anything we want as gunslingers, why MORE accuracy?...o wells, i'll still use it and be hella accurate? T> accuracy for avoid pls! Cool

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - FelixTM - 2008-11-25

Molly Wrote:^ won the thread with that! <3

i noticed this too and coming from a mage perspective i was a lil confused...i mean, we can already hit anything we want as gunslingers, why MORE accuracy?...o wells, i'll still use it and be hella accurate? T> accuracy for avoid pls!

It's just like being a Bowman.

Our weapon scrolls give us Accuracy why? I have enough accuracy to pierce the heavens, dangit.

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Dusk - 2008-11-25

FelixTM Wrote:It's just like being a Bowman.

Our weapon scrolls give us Accuracy why? I have enough accuracy to pierce the heavens, dangit.

So you can snipe Anego to death, one damage at a time, at level 80.

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Derimed - 2008-11-25

Chompy Wrote:For those of you who may have not noticed....
30% scrolls tend to give +5 att + 3 main stat + 1 something generally useless.
This is true for ALL classes and scrolls except one:
Gunslingers give +5 att + 3 ACC + 1 Dex
Therefore totally lame.
Yes Brawlers have the normal +3 str.
Nexon Please explain this too me.

EDIT: I am a failure. It seems like all Ranged classes get these lame stat bonus.
Except Mages. But their formula is totally awkward anyway.
so...
I DEMAND RANGED TO MELEE EQUALITY!!

It's not that lame actually. If a Bowmaster/Marksman has an ultra-godly (X)bow he can have like +5 Dex while the weapon's equipped. Having a full lvl-up worth of bonus Dex is not that bad... though any bow like that also has 25 attack above base so you won't be complaining anyway. Glitter

JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5 - Chompy - 2008-11-25

Quantact Wrote:It's not that lame actually. If a Bowmaster/Marksman has an ultra-godly (X)bow he can have like +5 Dex while the weapon's equipped. Having a full lvl-up worth of bonus Dex is not that bad... though any bow like that also has 25 attack above base so you won't be complaining anyway.

Its just instead of +5 dex melee classes are looking at +15 Stat X Glitter