Shidoshi Wrote:Familiars don't aggro mobs.

SaptaZapta Wrote:Familiars attack mobs. Mobs attack me. That's aggro.

Locked Wrote:Overswing's first hit is 420ms the 2nd hit is 660ms and I think it's 540ms for regular attack all at normal 6. Final Toss is 420ms.
Assuming maxed:
1st hit of overswing: 20 MP
2nd hit of overswing: 22 MP
Final Toss: 25 MP

Boostered speeds (faster 2):
overswingDouble: 330ms
overswingTriple: 510ms
Regular attack: 420ms
finalToss: 330ms

 I think

x+y = 47 casts per minute
xy = max
y = 47-x
x(47-x) = [47x-x^2]d/dx = 47-2x = 0
x = 23.5
23.5 + y = 47
y = 23.5
totalMP = (23*22)+(23*20) = 966 MP a minute
966 - 228 = 738 total MP a minute for Overswing only.

Shidoshi Wrote:O.o I've been using familiars at Skelegons for a while now and they've never buffed up or started following me after being hit by my familiar. They just stand there as if nothing happened taking the incredible ~2k damage from my Big Spider.

SaptaZapta Wrote:When I have no familiar out, HT's Wyverns just fly around at random and don't attack unless they bump into me and get hit by Power Reflection. If I have a familiar out, it hits them and they retaliate by attacking and dispelling (not just me but my partner as well).
Same with C/Zak's summons (especially the annoying stunning white boogies).
I'll check again with normal mobs when the game is up.

Nomad9375 Wrote:Many thanks for the time you have given me.
So then if I could socket at least 4 pieces with 12/4 then I could theoretically spam OS and with four 24/4 I should be able to spam FT. This new system looks promising for someone such as myself.

ElderTree Wrote:Except that he's horribly wrong. If you're spamming OS 47 times per min, that's 47 casts of OS "Double" AND 47 casts of OS "Triple"... not 23.5 of each. Not sure what on earth he's trying to do with the equations, but he's making it overly complicated.

Anyway:
IIRC, OSFB at Faster(2) takes 1890 ms total and uses 20+22+35 = 77 MP/cast. So that's 77*(60,000/1,890) = 2,444 MP/min.
FT spam at Faster(2) takes 330 ms and uses 25 MP per cast. So that's 25*(60,000/330) = 4,545 MP/min.

Nomad9375 Wrote:How many accessory slots are there? I counted 6; face, eye, 2 pendants, belt, earring. 6 24/4s = 2,160 Mp/min +my current 228= 2,388 So if I can 6 of those 24/4s then I should be golden right? and if I can somehow come up with the money to cube stuff I should be able to use OS+FB constantly, which might be a little excessive but meh.

ElderTree Wrote:Except that he's horribly wrong. If you're spamming OS 47 times per min, that's 47 casts of OS "Double" AND 47 casts of OS "Triple"... not 23.5 of each. Not sure what on earth he's trying to do with the equations, but he's making it overly complicated.

Quote:Anyway:
IIRC, OSFB at Faster(2) takes 1890 ms total and uses 20+22+35 = 77 MP/cast. So that's 77*(60,000/1,890) = 2,444 MP/min.
FT spam at Faster(2) takes 330 ms and uses 25 MP per cast. So that's 25*(60,000/330) = 4,545 MP/min.

Locked Wrote:Hence why I put "I think" I wasn't entirely sure how to do it. That makes a little bit of sense except you're not accounting the regular attack start up which has its own delay.



Again, you're ignoring the initial delay. And once again, OSFB is 1,590ms delay total. Rather than being an ass and calling me out wrong you should at least check your numbers.

ElderTree Wrote:From the first page, you said Normal attack is 420 ms at Faster(2), right?
And Double swing is 330 ms, right?
And Triple swing is 510 ms, right?
You didn't list Final Blow (810 ms at Normal(6)), which happens to be 630 ms at Faster(2).

So then 420 + 330 + 510 + 630 = 1890 ms.

Mazz Wrote:I think if a familiar attacks a mob that would otherwise auto aggro, it'll target you, but if it hits a monster that doesn't auto aggro the monster just ignores it. The damage registers, but the mob doesn't come after you. Sort of like how Beholder's Revenge(?) and Dark Flare would attack something but not actually aggro them.