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The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - sverreerik - 2012-02-28
Liteness Wrote:id rather have hackers farm it than have to spend 1000$ just to get lucky on some microwaves just for 1 or 2 empress weapons, right now hackers already mass duping them anyways
I'd rather there be no hackers and Nexon stopped selling Golden Bullets, but we can always get what we want.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - KhainiWest - 2012-02-28
Liteness Wrote:ok give your money to nexon that won't fix the god dam boss, if they had it fixed id have my pineappleing weapon already
Just curious, what's the point of getting a new weapon if the bosses are glitched from the get go anyway? To make you train faster? Sound's like you're trying to play their game without directly supporting the company while using excues of nexon's mismanagment to reward hackers to be more efficient at an end game point that, as you stated by nexon's inability to fix, is non-existant to begin with.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Clamors - 2012-02-28
KhainiWest Wrote:Just curious, what's the point of getting a new weapon if the bosses are glitched from the get go anyway? To make you train faster? Sound's like you're trying to play their game without directly supporting the company while using excues of nexon's mismanagment to reward hackers to be more efficient at an end game point that, as you stated by nexon's inability to fix, is non-existant to begin with.
^this, a million times over.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Liteness - 2012-02-28
KhainiWest Wrote:Just curious, what's the point of getting a new weapon if the bosses are glitched from the get go anyway? To make you train faster? Sound's like you're trying to play their game without directly supporting the company while using excues of nexon's mismanagment to reward hackers to be more efficient at an end game point that, as you stated by nexon's inability to fix, is non-existant to begin with.
its obviously a scam, nexon too smart (:
lets break empress
then sell it in cs box crap i rather pay hackers than nexon at this point
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - KhainiWest - 2012-02-28
Liteness Wrote:its obviously a scam, nexon too smart (:
lets break empress
My point is when your reasoning reaches this point, it's probably time to go on hiatus. Your reasoning is you're paying for the same item just through different hands, hands that are just more dependable. What you fail to realize is that you're litterally buying the equipment as if it's a CS item, it'll become obsolete within 90 days just like any CS item.
Why do you continue to complain about a broken game, claim scam, when you're litterally giving money to a robber?
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Pink Bean - 2012-02-28
Well isn't this something. KMS players should be really happy this was finally fixed
The real question is, when will WE be able to do this?
Cygnus is able to heal indefinitely.. or until the timer runs out.
Hackers will get their grubby hands on everything whether the community likes it or not lol. I'm just playing to have fun, and I am having fun
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Endgame - 2012-02-28
I think the "healing" is really just the health bar re-adjusting its self because it can't keep track of all of Cygnus' HP for some reason.
Hilla has 2 billion HP on Hard Mode as well, doesn't she? Maybe if someone can confirm if her HP bar does the same thing.....
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-02-28
Endgame Wrote:I think the "healing" is really just the health bar re-adjusting its self because it can't keep track of all of Cygnus' HP for some reason.
Hilla has 2 billion HP on Hard Mode as well, doesn't she? Maybe if someone can confirm if her HP bar does the same thing.....
No you're wrong. No HP bar works like that in any game, ever. If HP bars go over the set length, then all games have a x3 or something that means "It has this much HP left x3" Once that hp bar goes down, it fills up back to full and says x2, etc
Really, I don't know where people come up with those kind of theories -___-
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Liteness - 2012-02-28
KhainiWest Wrote:My point is when your reasoning reaches this point, it's probably time to go on hiatus. Your reasoning is you're paying for the same item just through different hands, hands that are just more dependable. What you fail to realize is that you're litterally buying the equipment as if it's a CS item, it'll become obsolete within 90 days just like any CS item.
Why do you continue to complain about a broken game, claim scam, when you're litterally giving money to a robber?
and you, why bother complaining about complainers about a game you don't even play? haha u funny ill buy one off hackers since i can and its supposed to be free
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Endgame - 2012-02-28
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:No you're wrong. No HP bar works like that in any game, ever. If HP bars go over the set length, then all games have a x3 or something that means "It has this much HP left x3" Once that hp bar goes down, it fills up back to full and says x2, etcThose x4 HP bars you brought up are EXACTLY why I came up with that theory.
Really, I don't know where people come up with those kind of theories -___-
When Wizet first programmed boss HP bars, they probably didn't anticipate giving a boss (Or at least the part of the boss that gets the HP bar.) 2 billion+ HP, so they probably didn't design the bars to hold that much HP. And they might have not wanted to add "x10" for some reason. (It is a pretty stupid system. Especially when different bosses have the same number of bars but not even close to the same amount of HP.)
Of course, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of actually having her heal herself to artificially extend her HP if the game's programming won't allow an individual mob to have more than 2100000000 HP.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - KhainiWest - 2012-02-28
Liteness Wrote:and you, why bother complaining about complainers about a game you don't even play? haha u funny ill buy one off hackers since i can and its supposed to be free
Why jump to deflecting immediately after asking why you act so irresponsible? You're buying your weapon that is essentially an investment to boss faster, in order to get experience/drops faster, which gives you money faster. But the bosses are broken so why pay someone ridiculous money in order to gain an advantage you can't apply?
I don't care if you complain about nexon but your comments towards the company that you desperately try to justify your actions with are down right retarded.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - CrazyForDex - 2012-02-28
Liteness Wrote:ill buy one off hackers since i can and its supposed to be free
But it is not supposed to be free. Getting to the level where you can kill Empress to get weapon drops takes a lot of funding as I'm sure you are aware. Not exactly free.
Whether or not Nexon is supposed to fix Empress is irrelevant, the point is you shouldn't be supporting hackers because all that does is help give them more power over the economy. Besides, like KhainiWest said, bosses are already so broken and so often hacked that there really isn't much point in trying to be able to boss quickly, the drops barely give you enough money to make a profit. Ironically it seems Nexon's incompetence is the only thing protecting the economy from a large influx of hacked 140 weapons and other such gear.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Killed - 2012-02-28
Bossing only exists for the really well-funded or hackers. Nexon America needs to grow up and flap their little wings by themselves instead of waiting for Nexon Korea to flap them for them. There will always be hackers no matter what, there have always been hackers since the beginning of this game, but when there are so many of them that they control the economy of the entire game in nearly all servers then something obviously needs to be done.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-02-28
Endgame Wrote:Those x4 HP bars you brought up are EXACTLY why I came up with that theory.
When Wizet first programmed boss HP bars, they probably didn't anticipate giving a boss (Or at least the part of the boss that gets the HP bar.) 2 billion+ HP, so they probably didn't design the bars to hold that much HP. And they might have not wanted to add "x10" for some reason. (It is a pretty stupid system. Especially when different bosses have the same number of bars but not even close to the same amount of HP.)
Of course, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of actually having her heal herself to artificially extend her HP if the game's programming won't allow an individual mob to have more than 2100000000 HP.
Are you being serious right now? Especially at this part
Quote:so they probably didn't design the bars to hold that much HP
It sounds like you don't even know how HP bars work in the first place. And you definitely don't know a thing about programming.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - SaptaZapta - 2012-02-28
Arkarium has 2.1b HP and a single HP bar that behaves normally.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Raul - 2012-02-28
KhainiWest Wrote:Why jump to deflecting immediately after asking why you act so irresponsible? You're buying your weapon that is essentially an investment to boss faster, in order to get experience/drops faster, which gives you money faster. But the bosses are broken so why pay someone ridiculous money in order to gain an advantage you can't apply?
I don't care if you complain about nexon but your comments towards the company that you desperately try to justify your actions with are down right retarded.
Dustin for President.
From what I've seen from Liteness is basically illegitimacy and (poor) rationalization of being illegitimate.
He seems to take the stance that if it can't be done very easily through legitimate means, then abusing glitches or (others) hacking is completely justified. Turns out, there actually are some things in the game that are supposed to be a challenge. Not everything is about how much goddamn funding you can pump into a character, it's occasionally about skill, strategy, or teamwork.
[MENTION=4093]SaptaZapta[/MENTION] so does Pink Bean, Oz, Hawkeye, Mihile, Irena, Eckhart, and Hilla.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - SaptaZapta - 2012-02-28
[MENTION=8396]Raul[/MENTION], don't tell that to me, tell it to [MENTION=7024]Endgame[/MENTION], who suggested MapleStory's HP bars can't handle 2.1b HP and that's why Empress appears to be healing.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Raul - 2012-02-28
SaptaZapta Wrote:[MENTION=8396]Raul[/MENTION], don't tell that to me, tell it to [MENTION=7024]Endgame[/MENTION], who suggested MapleStory's HP bars can't handle 2.1b HP and that's why Empress appears to be healing.
I know, I was just adding it to the ones that had max HP besides Akarium that don't heal.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - Pink Bean - 2012-02-28
Endgame Wrote:Those x4 HP bars you brought up are EXACTLY why I came up with that theory.
When Wizet first programmed boss HP bars, they probably didn't anticipate giving a boss (Or at least the part of the boss that gets the HP bar.) 2 billion+ HP, so they probably didn't design the bars to hold that much HP. And they might have not wanted to add "x10" for some reason. (It is a pretty stupid system. Especially when different bosses have the same number of bars but not even close to the same amount of HP.)
Of course, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of actually having her heal herself to artificially extend her HP if the game's programming won't allow an individual mob to have more than 2100000000 HP.
what
excuse me but more than one boss has 2,100,000,000 HP meaning this is a problem within the programming of the individual boss and not the actual HP. You never saw MY HP bar freaking out like that.
[MENTION=6263]Killed[/MENTION] thank you for saying this, exactly my thoughts on the hacker situation. The lesser populated servers don't have as much of a problem but it's still there in the economy and won't be removing itself any time soon. It will only get worse for ALL of GlobalMS
My small alliance still bosses and such plus the fact I'm doing it with friends is practically one of the few things keeping me from dropping the game all together.
The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS - PirateIzzy - 2012-02-28
Raul Wrote:so does Pink Bean, Oz, Hawkeye, Mihile, Irena, Eckhart, and Hilla.
The 5 Cygnus Instructors have 1.65b HP, not 2b. It is pretty close though, I'll admit.