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80% epic potential explosion rate? - Aeon - 2012-01-22
CarrionCrow Wrote:Again, if the other thread somehow was not good enough. Failed an epic pot scroll, did not blow item. There. Happy?
Not too hard now, was it?
Thank you.
I had my answer a few hours ago regardless.
More confirmation doesn't hurt though.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - modular - 2012-01-22
Aeon Wrote:A screen shot would do absolutely nothing here.
Might as well just use a 20% and record the message saying the scroll failed and the item exploded.
Even if this is a 'duplicate' thread, the question wasn't answered in the aforementioned thread, and that would have been a massive necro.
Don't see what the problem is here.
If you don't have any information relevant to PERSONAL experience, you don't need to post here.
Not like SP is spammed with threads.
maybe you dont know that this forum has a reputation for dispersing information
lies dont give southperry credibility and any trolling and misinformation are quickly shat on by the community
thats why everyone seems so angry at you, because youre calling them incredible when the forum reputation speaks otherwise
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Aeon - 2012-01-22
modular Wrote:maybe you dont know that this forum has a reputation for dispersing information
lies dont give southperry credibility and any trolling and misinformation are quickly shat on by the community
thats why everyone seems so angry at you, because youre calling them incredible when the forum reputation speaks otherwise
I didn't attack anyones credibility, in fact I stated quite the opposite.
To make it clear, I was/am looking for people WHO THEMSELVES used the potential scrolls.
Hear-say, nexon, and mathematics do not put up a fight against actual results.
I'm not looking for a "Oh I heard _______" or "________ failed one and didn't blow there item up".
______ can come in here and post there results themselves.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - modular - 2012-01-22
no, you did attack their credibility, when they said "oh its 4% boom rate and can fail w/o boom" and then you proceeded to be all like "wtp 1 person saying it isnt enough for me because i obviously havent lurked here enough to realize that when someone says something and no one says shes full of pomegranate, she aint fucking full of pomegranate"
and then thread got testy for absolutely no reason at all except your own ignorance and insecurity
you dont need 10 different people to all tell you the same thing, its a waste of 9 peoples time
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Aeon - 2012-01-22
modular Wrote:you dont need 10 different people to all tell you the same thing, its a waste of 9 peoples time
You guys are already 'wasting' your time here.
I'm not forcing anyone to post, if they want to type 4-5 words who am I to stop them.
Especially if it helps me confirm this, I really dont give two fucks what your opinion is.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - modular - 2012-01-22
its already BEEN confirmed and you cant get that into your hard head
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Worthyness - 2012-01-22
Anyone want to tell me why it's a conspiracy that scrolls never explode on their given rate? This happens every time there's a new scroll out that has a chance of explosion o_o
And the only way to test this would really be to buy hundreds upon hundreds of scrolls and test them on the same item and then record your progress. So if anyone wants to buy a couple hundred epic 80% scrolls as well as some gears that you don't mind exploding, then by all means do so.
Of course you could also do the math (which happened in a previous thread I believe) and take what's written on the scroll and figure out what the % chance of exploding is. But sometimes, i guess, that's not enough for some people, hence the mass scrolling an the theory of large numbers.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-22
Worthyness Wrote:Anyone want to tell me why it's a conspiracy that scrolls never explode on their given rate? This happens every time there's a new scroll out that has a chance of explosion o_o
And the only way to test this would really be to buy hundreds upon hundreds of scrolls and test them on the same item and then record your progress. So if anyone wants to buy a couple hundred epic 80% scrolls as well as some gears that you don't mind exploding, then by all means do so.
Of course you could also do the math (which happened in a previous thread I believe) and take what's written on the scroll and figure out what the % chance of exploding is. But sometimes, i guess, that's not enough for some people, hence the mass scrolling an the theory of large numbers.
You completely missed the point of the thread.
People just wanted to see what happens if it fails. There's a small confusion and people don't want to be screwed by a nexon typo. For example
Advanced potential scroll: Has a 90% success rate. If it fails, the item will boom.
Epic potential scroll. Has an 80% success rate. If it fails, the item has a 20% chance to boom.
If we take the description for epic potential scroll literally, then
80% success
16% fail
4% boom
But the thing is, nexon could have typo'd the description and it could possibly have meant
Epic potential scroll: Has an 80% chance success rate and a 20% boom rate
Since 80% + 20% = 100%.
If it said "Has an 80% success rate. If it fails, the item has a 50% chance to boom." then there's no confusion because it obviously means an if, then statement.
Again, people didn't want to be screwed due to a nexon typo so they just wanted to clarify. No one was debating if the boom rate really was 4% vs 20%. They were concerned if the boom rate was 100% if fail, which is not the case.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-22
Didn't you learn your lesson the last time you tried being a smart ass around here? Maybe you should act a little more humble and swallow your pride because you ain't anybody special here.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Aeon - 2012-01-22
KhainiWest Wrote:Didn't you learn your lesson the last time you tried being a smart ass around here? Maybe you should act a little more humble and swallow your pride because you ain't anybody special here.
I could easily dispute that as well.
No evidence in that thread showed me admitting that I hacked/hack, which was what I was banned for.
In fact, there's no evidence anywhere that admits it. Besides me of course, cause I don't give two pineapples.
Angry mod was angry, for whatever reason. Not that I care.
No need to be humble when you're right.
I can be just as stubborn as you guys.
There's no lesson, there is however new account creation. If an account here was valued at anything to me, I wouldn't lose it.
Unfortunately, they aren't. Only when I have questions that need answers.
Irritating people is just the half of it.
Also, if I remember correctly, I shut you up.
Shall I go at it again?
Worthyness Wrote:Anyone want to tell me why it's a conspiracy that scrolls never explode on their given rate? This happens every time there's a new scroll out that has a chance of explosion o_o
Not even that. I was just wondering if what Nexon imprinted on the scroll had any merit, cause come on it's Nexon.
This thread was answered quite a while ago.
You may stop posting, not that you people will.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Dark Link - 2012-01-22
Aeon Wrote:This thread was answered quite a while ago.
And yet you continue to question the legitimacy of answers.
Aeon Wrote:You may stop posting, not that you people will.
You may stop posting as well, not that you will either, because you like to purposely stir up trouble for no reason whatsoever.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - modular - 2012-01-22
angry? no.
1 case of failure without boom is enough to disprove an 80 pass / 20 boom rate. and the place you ask the question takes trolling seriously.
Dark Link Wrote:And yet you continue to question the legitimacy of answers.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-22
Aeon Wrote:I could easily dispute that as well.
No evidence in that thread showed me admitting that I hacked/hack, which was what I was banned for.
Oh allow me to correct you oh incompetent one. The reason you were banned was because you posted an SS (blades4hire specifically) of him stating hack related information. You not only accused but posted inappropriate information regarding the forum. If you read the rules you'd understand why you were banned rather than looking like a complete moron like now.
Aeon Wrote:No need to be humble when you're right.
I can be just as stubborn as you guys.
Stubborn? We're trying to correct you as you posted a duplicate thread that gave you the same information you requested for, just not in the same jargon therefore not effective enough for you? It just sounds like you don't know about thesaurus. You even attempt to insult us, well rather them, after they helped you and just try to correct you in terms of your assumptions. You don't have the maturity to admit you're wrong and simply provide excuses of your clearly redundant question.
Aeon Wrote:There's no lesson, there is however new account creation. If an account here was valued at anything to me, I wouldn't lose it.
Unfortunately, they aren't. Only when I have questions that need answers.
So you'll recreate accounts constantly to get answers from a forum you think you're better than? Sound's like you're just arrogant, I mean seriously half your post previously was "I'm chuck norris and things happen because I allow them too". Yet you just contradicted yourself as you just admittedly stated you didn't understand the rules and blamed biased against you.
And you tell me to grow up? Haha part of being an adult is knowing your faults and possibly what is appropriate and not. Clearly the problem is you not me.
Aeon Wrote:Irritating people is just the half of it.
Also, if I remember correctly, I shut you up.
Shall I go at it again?
Just like basilmarket, you get banned, then you can't respond. You got banned and I laughed at you. There was no use trying to correct your clearly idiotic assessments/assumptions against me/them. Shut me up? More like I didn't want to bash someone who lost his opinion. Just remember, as there is new account creation, with disrespect like that, it's the site admin that allows you to do that, he can just as easily take it away.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Aeon - 2012-01-22
KhainiWest Wrote:Oh allow me to correct you oh incompetent one. The reason you were banned was because you posted an SS (blades4hire specifically) of him stating hack related information.
I stopped reading here.
Onbviously you know the reason of my ban far better then I.
Not like I got the typical "Your account has been blocked/banned for admitting you hack" ban notice/response.
KhainiWest Wrote:Stubborn? We're trying to correct you as you posted a duplicate thread that gave you the same information you requested for, just not in the same jargon therefore not effective enough for you?
Again with the "we's". There have been maybe two people who have tried to 'correct me'.
Yet to see you even post something directly related to this thread as you came in saying:
KhainiWest Wrote:Didn't you learn your lesson the last time you tried being a smart ass around here? Maybe you should act a little more humble and swallow your pride because you ain't anybody special here.
Dark Link Wrote:And yet you continue to question the legitimacy of answers.
No, I don't. Where are you getting this from.
I stated prior that more data never hurts. I never doubted these answers, whatever they were.
More input helps.
Dark Link Wrote:You may stop posting as well, not that you will either, because you like to purposely stir up trouble for no reason whatsoever.
Yup. Clearly.
I'm not a submissive person.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Raul - 2012-01-22
Rick, this is why you should appreciate me more.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - Worthyness - 2012-01-22
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:snip.
Ah my apologies. Thank you for correcting me.
I do believe that, if anyone is still questioning the explode-y rate, my suggestion of theory of large numbers still applies (not that anyone is going to do it). It would "prove" the 80/16/4 thing if anyone really REALLY hated Nexon's guts and didn't believe that Nexon had the competency to write the correct description on the scroll.
80% epic potential explosion rate? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-01-22
finally, can everyone stop beating the dead horse now?
80% epic potential explosion rate? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-22
ShinkuDragon Wrote:finally, can everyone stop beating thebannedhorse now?
Sorry shinku you know I like my meat tender.
nohomo