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Evils. - Flonne - 2011-07-18
Eos Wrote:That's not true. Not giving someone CPR isn't helping them or hurting them, directly, it's still neglecting them and allowing them to die.
"Its not my fault if I don't vote" is an excuse, pure and simple. If more people voted more people would have incentive to run in the first place. As it is the majority of voters do so because they've had their buttons pushed, not because they've tried to make an informed decision on the agenda of who they're voting for which means the candidates most likely to run are the ones who can and will push buttons and therefore get elected. The apathetic non-voters have the potential to completely change how elections play out but instead choose to create a self fulfilling prophecy of not mattering.
You have the right to disagree with what your politicians are doing whether you voted for them or not, and the right to seek action to address their behaviors if you disagree with them. You may as well also exercise your right to determine who ends up there rather than treating it like somebody else's mistake you have to live with.
Why should I save someone? In essence, it really isn't my problem. Many would call that cold and even horrible, so I guess I'm just not a nice person; still, why is it that a person should be obligated to act on something that has absolutely nothing to do with them? On the very small offchance that in the future that person could have given me a good career path opening, well, I'm willing to accept that loss, because there is an equally small but viable chance that the person will go on to commit a crime later in life. Neutrality is not evil, it's just neutrality. Also, I disagree that more motivated voting would result in a better system, because our system is fundamentally broken at this point and needs to be totally redone. I'm not one of those people that thinks we are the worst country in the world, because I realize we are still probably one of the better ones system-wise, and to me it's scary as hell that a country this broken is still basically the most free. It's not a matter of "well, its the least bad", I see it as, "wow, the standard is so low we are near the top just based on the fact that everywhere else sucks even more".
Evils. - Eos - 2011-07-18
Flonne Wrote:Why should I save someone?
Would you want someone to save you, or would you prefer to be left watching the world bleed away?
I wouldn't classify you cold or horrible, just incredibly ignorant and/or apparently incapable of considerations outside of your immediate self.
Indifference is not neutrality. Being self centered is not neutral. You've picked a side; it's your immediate interests and that's mercenary, not neutrality.
Evils. - xLeviathan - 2011-07-18
Flonne Wrote:Why should I save someone? In essence, it really isn't my problem. Many would call that cold and even horrible, so I guess I'm just not a nice person; still, why is it that a person should be obligated to act on something that has absolutely nothing to do with them? On the very small offchance that in the future that person could have given me a good career path opening, well, I'm willing to accept that loss, because there is an equally small but viable chance that the person will go on to commit a crime later in life. Neutrality is not evil, it's just neutrality. Also, I disagree that more motivated voting would result in a better system, because our system is fundamentally broken at this point and needs to be totally redone. I'm not one of those people that thinks we are the worst country in the world, because I realize we are still probably one of the better ones system-wise, and to me it's scary as hell that a country this broken is still basically the most free. It's not a matter of "well, its the least bad", I see it as, "wow, the standard is so low we are near the top just based on the fact that everywhere else sucks even more".
I used to not care about people either. Then I grew up and realized how much caring about other people really does for me (Hint: A lot). You know, all bad sh`it about me aside for the moment, I'm a pretty good person to others. I do a lot for other people now despite knowing that I will most likely not get that kind of treatment in return. But I used to be 100% cold and calculating and then I guess I had some kind of change and saw things a little clearer and actually started to care about things other than myself. Let me tell you, it was a burden off, somehow.
Anyway I just kind of picked at one part of that to respond to. Moving on...I somewhat agree with your opinion about our country, though I doubt it's going to pick itself off the ground at this point. It's headed into some abyss and while it isn't some utter destruction like some would have you believe, I doubt the standard of living is going to stay the same for too much longer. Ironically enough it has little to do with our political system. They're not the (entire) problem and not even a large part of it, but they should be the fix and they're not going to be that, either.
Evils. - Flonne - 2011-07-18
xLeviathan Wrote:I used to not care about people either. Then I grew up and realized how much caring about other people really does for me (Hint: A lot).
I'm the opposite; I used to be nice to everybody, then I realized how superficial it all was and that it was more of a chore than anything. I don't get any "good feeling" out of helping another person. I actually prefer people to think I'm antisocial and never approach me in real life, because I'm a person that likes being alone. Which begs the question why am I posting on forums in the first place, which I do not have an answer for; semi-one way communication of this sort is better for me than actual conversation, though.
Eos Wrote:Would you want someone to save you, or would you prefer to be left watching the world bleed away?
I'd prefer they let me die, to be honest. I'm not suicidal (anymore), but I'm sure not ever going to be the type of person to go out of my way to survive something, either. According to the psychologist I was seeing up until a few months ago, apparently my heavily apathetic and neutral attitude is due to the fact that nothing I do can change the fact that I will die a lonely virgin (for reasons that have been stated once and will not be stated again).
Evils. - octopusprime - 2011-07-20
Flonne Wrote:I'd prefer they let me die, to be honest. I'm not suicidal (anymore), but I'm sure not ever going to be the type of person to go out of my way to survive something, either. According to the psychologist I was seeing up until a few months ago, apparently my heavily apathetic and neutral attitude is due to the fact that nothing I do can change the fact that I will die a lonely virgin (for reasons that have been stated once and will not be stated again).
You don't have to a love a prostitute. Or her age. Also your psychologist sounds like a hack.