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[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Raph589 - 2011-05-24
I think backstep shot is a skill for the next legend too. Probably archer one.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Jon - 2011-05-24
Viaje Wrote:[URL="http://spadow.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/kms-ver-1-2-131-spell-of-awakening/"]She started being in the game quite recently.
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See also: http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=42722&prefixid=KMST
Oh hurr, didn't remember her being one of the girls.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Viaje - 2011-05-24
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:I'll second this.I think it might be just an animation update for the Gunslinger's Backstep Shot.
Think horses, not zebras.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - squirrely - 2011-05-24
Thanks for the videos abysseon.
That is a very promising change for marksmen.
Pierce definitely seems more viable and more efficient to use.
Even though we still have to wait after getting hit to shoot it, the shorter charge makes up for that.
Marksmen definitely look like they live up to their mobbing nature.
Nexon is doing a very good job with the updates.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Viaje - 2011-05-24
squirrely Wrote:Thanks for the videos abysseon.Definitely makes it a great 'starter' when taking on a mob.
That is a very promising change for marksmen.
Pierce definitely seems more viable and more efficient to use.
Even though we still have to wait after getting hit to shoot it, the shorter charge makes up for that.
Marksmen definitely look like they live up to their mobbing nature.
Nexon is doing a very good job with the updates.
Seems to combo nicely with Eruption.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - hadriel - 2011-05-24
Cool. Spammable Pierce. 390ms delay plus 500% range.
If I attempt to extrapolate the damage of the new Pierce at level 1, at the looks of it, spamming pierce effectively gives 0.1*(600%*2)*[(1 - 1.2^6)/(1 - 1.2)] = 1191.6% damage to 6 mobs (that's if you do hit 6 mobs, since this is a GP, and an estimated 10% damage for tapping), or 198.6% per mob on a 6-mob Pierce at level 1. Normalising for delay, that's 509% DPS per mob. As a basis of comparision, AE does 462.5% DPS, and Ice Shot does 551.7% DPS, both of which are not mobcount-dependent. Max level Pierce-tapping does 636.5% DPS on a 6-mob pierce, and 572% DPS on a 5-mob pierce.
What do you all think? Useful buff?
*edit* If I assume Pierce max charging time to be 1000ms (I've no idea), then normalised DPS on full charging is 1079.1% on a single mob, or 1786% DPS on a 6-mob Pierce. Basis of comparision: Ultimate Strafe at max level does 1586% DPS. Looks very VERY tasty now. But we're still rather lacklustre for 1v1 DPS. *edit*
Hadriel
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - squirrely - 2011-05-24
hadriel Wrote:Cool. Spammable Pierce. 390ms delay plus 500% range.It sounds useful based on what you said.
If I attempt to extrapolate the damage of the new Pierce at level 1, at the looks of it, spamming pierce effectively gives 0.1*(600%*2)*[(1 - 1.2^6)/(1 - 1.2)] = 1191.6% damage to 6 mobs (that's if you do hit 6 mobs, since this is a GP, and an estimated 10% damage for tapping), or 198.6% per mob on a 6-mob Pierce at level 1. Normalising for delay, that's 509% DPS per mob. As a basis of comparision, AE does 462.5% DPS, and Ice Shot does 551.7% DPS, both of which are not mobcount-dependent. Max level Pierce-tapping does 636.5% DPS on a 6-mob pierce, and 572% DPS on a 5-mob pierce.
What do you all think? Useful buff?
Hadriel
But pierce-tapping is something new to me. I never did it before :O
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - hadriel - 2011-05-24
^Why'd you want that? Ice Shot beats it hands down.
Give me a couple of min to find out the damage modifier for Iron Arrow.
*edit* 6-mob Iron Arrow does 278.3% DPS (which is stupid, penalty too high), and single-mob Iron does 356% DPS. *edit*
*edit* Declare that all calculations are RAW DPS. *edit*
Hadriel
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-05-24
New skill animation looks like a Recoil Shot type effect. Wonder if it's for that Wind Archer skill.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - ghostofhalo - 2011-05-24
hadriel Wrote:^Why'd you want that? Ice Shot beats it hands down.Wasn't iron arrow's damage penalty removed during these patches?
Give me a couple of min to find out the damage modifier for Iron Arrow.
*edit* 6-mob Iron Arrow does 278.3% DPS (which is stupid, penalty too high), and single-mob Iron does 356% DPS. *edit*
*edit* Declare that all calculations are RAW DPS. *edit*
Hadriel
1.2.381 Patch Notes Wrote:- Iron Arrow (2nd) were applied for through the damage penalty has been removed.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - squirrely - 2011-05-24
hadriel Wrote:^Why'd you want that? Ice Shot beats it hands down.Thanks Hadriel.
Give me a couple of min to find out the damage modifier for Iron Arrow.
*edit* 6-mob Iron Arrow does 278.3% DPS (which is stupid, penalty too high), and single-mob Iron does 356% DPS. *edit*
*edit* Declare that all calculations are RAW DPS. *edit*
Hadriel
I just keep thinking of iron arrow as pierce version alpha (it goes further and doesnt stop with an aoe)
I still use iron arrow as a finisher if pierce leaves all mobs with little hp to be time efficient.
But with the new speed, it looks like tap-piercing is the way to go. One less key to press
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - hadriel - 2011-05-24
Oops. Then it collapses to the 2nd DPS value I calculated, and is mobcount-independent.
Just a few more numbers to note: Single-mob max-Pierce does 1079% RAW DPS, which obviously means that tapping max-Pierce does 107.9% DPS. Extrapolated level 1 Pierce does 863.3% DPS on full charging on single-mob, or 1428.8% DPS full-charge 6-mobs. Makes tap-Piercing look kinda whimpy...
Hadriel
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - SwordStaker - 2011-05-24
kruimel0 Wrote:I'm guessing a new PQ...DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Pirate update first please
To quote google translate:
"Teacher necessary to complete a new weapon, but ..."
"Master ~ seuseungniim ~ Where are you?"
"I'm being upgraded Nautilus Quote! new weapons stronger Nautilus! really cool they are! Besides beauty Nautiloid captain! boat fleet is beautiful dating method to double the damage! ... while this sounds like Kai Lin in trouble for 're not me? "
"while this sounds like Kai Lin in trouble for 're not me?" Maybe you have to rescue this mysterious Kai Lin?
EDIT:I wouldn't be surprised if they released all legends at one time.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - hadriel - 2011-05-24
^That would be legendary =P Say no to Legendre transformation here!
Tap-piercing is only viable with this new update... see the 2nd video on the 1st page.
Can someone give me exact numbers for the charging time of Pierce? It can heavily skew the DPS of Pierce.
Hadriel
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Shidoshi - 2011-05-24
From what I'm seeing on the video, new pierce has a very short delay instead of the normal 600ms. From the vikings video it also seems like it can be cast on the air so no more problems with being hit, this is pretty much the same thing they did with mage's Big Bang.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - MetaSeraphim - 2011-05-24
Viaje Wrote:Think horses, not zebras.
That is hardly any fun.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-05-24
Backstep Shot is the korean name for Recoil Shot, so I'm pretty sure its not a new skill lol.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - Takebacker - 2011-05-24
Wow. Pierce is awesome sauce now.
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Backstep Shot is the korean name for Recoil Shot, so I'm pretty sure its not a new skill lol.
Yeah it's obviously recoil shot from gunslingers. Pirate jump is up next.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - 0^2 - 2011-05-24
I love that they had Ani do his evil sneering for that world select and Dragonrider looking all badass.
[1.2.383] Piercing Changes - MetaSeraphim - 2011-05-24
Takebacker Wrote:Yeah it's obviously recoil shot from gunslingers. Pirate jump is up next.
>Pirates get update before thieves
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