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2x EXP and Drop Events! - SwordStaker - 2011-02-03
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Until the D/C hack issue is resolved they haven't fixed anything in my book.They were at one point. Then it broke out again..thought I don't know if its just me but I haven't run into any DC hackers recently. Not even at bosses.
On the 2x issue think about this. People complain about how if you want to be anywhere close to good you need nx. Well 2x cards post bb increases that gap even more.
>People hate 2x and want it removed thinking its unfair
>It's now removed and the same people complain its gone (what..?)
Honestly if NEXON wants to make it fair lets make it fair. In the CS you can buy 4 hour 2x for 2k nx. Then players who are unable to get this can do a very very hard and long quest chain and for the cost of 10 mill a day they can have 2 hours of 2x. Or just maybe every other week give us 7 hunter luck cards. Oh and if you buy the NX card in the CS you cannot get the extra 2 hours from the quest line and vice versa.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - KhainiWest - 2011-02-03
If they released 2x cards that were in parts, like hunters luck, I'd praise nexon for being the best thing ever.
That or release the zorro hat.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Takebacker - 2011-02-03
How is that balanced at all? 1m is an extremely PALTRY cost compared to 2k NX. No one would buy NX for 2x and it would completely ruin the business side of putting 2x back in the CS.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - KhainiWest - 2011-02-03
Takebacker Wrote:How is that balanced at all? 1m is an extremely PALTRY cost compared to 2k NX. No one would buy NX for 2x and it would completely ruin the business side of putting 2x back in the CS.
Although I agree and see your logic, wouldn't lowering NX's cost and inflating the value of meso's be a good thing. `
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Takebacker - 2011-02-03
DustBunny Wrote:Although I agree and see your logic, wouldn't lowering NX's cost and inflating the value of meso's be a good thing. `
Meso sinks are always good but only if they're reasonable. 1m lost from every training player per day isn't that big of an impact for something as beneficial as 2x. Not to mention the probability of gaining >1m during the course of that 2x training is if anything near guaranteed. If it's going to cost anything it would have to be like 10m. Fitting it to the general NX:meso ratio makes it too unobtainable for the large majority. (30m per day for 2 hours is pretty extreme) 10 or 15m would still achieve that economic impact over time while still being available for the people who thought it was unfair. If they still think that's unfair well then they can go f'uck themselves and make money if they want it to be more fair for them.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - SwordStaker - 2011-02-03
Takebacker Wrote:Meso sinks are always good but only if they're reasonable. 1m lost from every training player per day isn't that big of an impact for something as beneficial as 2x. Not to mention the probability of gaining >1m during the course of that 2x training is if anything near guaranteed. If it's going to cost anything it would have to be like 10m. Fitting it to the general NX:meso ratio makes it too unobtainable for the large majority. (30m per day for 2 hours is pretty extreme) 10 or 15m would still achieve that economic impact over time while still being available for the people who thought it was unfair. If they still think that's unfair well then they can go f'uck themselves and make money if they want it to be more fair for them.1m is just a base number. Since the NX:Mesos ratio are always changing you're right . I'de agree to the 10m and if you can't make 10m from the various amounts of money opportunities post bb then yes go f yourself.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Jamie_Kurosawa - 2011-02-03
Yes, but dropping 10mil per 2x session for a lot of people is rather pointless as other problems would offset and devalue/over-inflate the economy eventually. For most people that would mean also waiting days or weeks until sufficient funds could be established. The meso farming, account thefts, and scamming incidents would go skyrocketing with all probability just to supply people with the mesos to do 2x. If anything, it's more fuel for the hackers.
No, the Nexon Cash based 2x system and rep system were more tolerable for many people and have no economic impact in the long run. Unless you're either too lazy, too self-absorbed, or have lazy juniors getting rep isn't hard. Earning Nx isn't hard either. There are plenty of ways to buy or earn Nx including Paypal, Cards, and using MTS.
The problem is the same people who complained fall into these categories. I had no problems earning 2x using the MTS, it took a while yes, but I managed to do it. So that excuse is dead. Nexon gave us Paypal for people who can't buy Cash Cards. The only complaint was we can't use PayPal Nx for MTS. Big deal as buying Nx for the Cash Shop purpose was the only reason they complained originally. Another dead excuse.
So let's boil down the anti-2x argument:
1. I can't get 2x because I have no money. (answer) Learn to use MTS and learn about having patience. You can earn Nx without money easily if you have patience.
2. I can't get Nx for 2x because I live outside North America where cards aren't sold. (answer) You have access to Paypal and currency converters.
3. I can't get any juniors for rep. (answer) Learn to be more social and make friends, and learn to ask politely.
4. 2x isn't fair because I can't get anything for 2x. (answer) read excuses 1 ~ 3 with associated answers and maybe you can get 2x, and stop making excuses.
5. I die too much during 2x when I train. (answer) Go to a monster more suitable.
And once again 2x's usage within MapleStory is validated as fair... unless theirs another excuse someone wants to make.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - IllegallySane - 2011-02-03
OB3LISK Wrote:http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/News.aspx?boardNo=100&contentNo=00AtK&pageIndex=1
Nexon: "sorry for the hacks and rollbacks. lolz here u go mechs take some specific ksing times"
I lol-ed more than I should have.
Well at least no 2x cards to buy this time so I can be more casual with my 2x.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Takebacker - 2011-02-03
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Yes, but dropping 10mil per 2x session for a lot of people is rather pointless as other problems would offset and devalue/over-inflate the economy eventually. For most people that would mean also waiting days or weeks until sufficient funds could be established. The meso farming, account thefts, and scamming incidents would go skyrocketing with all probability just to supply people with the mesos to do 2x. If anything, it's more fuel for the hackers.
Nexon's perspective: Your fault.
This isn't really a reason against this proposal. 10m for 2 hours of 2x would not be considered "pointless" considering guild 1.1x costs around the same. Any source of non-1x will be taken by the community (or at least the high level community) with enthusiasm and joy and will benefit both nexon (easy to code, meso sink) and players (non-NX 2x).
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:No, the Nexon Cash based 2x system and rep system were more tolerable for many people and have no economic impact in the long run. Unless you're either too lazy, too self-absorbed, or have lazy juniors getting rep isn't hard. Earning Nx isn't hard either. There are plenty of ways to buy or earn Nx including Paypal, Cards, and using MTS.
Which is exactly why this system should be implemented. Korea implemented several new meso sinks this past year for a reason.
I don't have a family. Rep is not an option for me and it never will be, because family system is f'ucking retarded.
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:So let's boil down the anti-2x argument:
1. I can't get 2x because I have no money. (answer) Learn to use MTS and learn about having patience. You can earn Nx without money easily if you have patience.
2. I can't get Nx for 2x because I live outside North America where cards aren't sold. (answer) You have access to Paypal and currency converters.
3. I can't get any juniors for rep. (answer) Learn to be more social and make friends, and learn to ask politely.
4. 2x isn't fair because I can't get anything for 2x. (answer) read excuses 1 ~ 3 with associated answers and maybe you can get 2x, and stop making excuses.
5. I die too much during 2x when I train. (answer) Go to a monster more suitable.
And once again 2x's usage within MapleStory is validated as fair... unless theirs another excuse someone wants to make.
I don't get it. Who here is saying 2x is a bad thing? The people who did pre-BB were idiots and the people who want it back post is more or less the same group of people. o.o
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Jamie_Kurosawa - 2011-02-03
Exactly why it never should have been messed with in the first place.
The addition of mesos sinks would have to constitute the infallibility of the market. Because NexonNA hasn't implemented a system like NexonKR to control it's userbase, like allowing only South Korean citizens with valid IDs to register, creating a meso sink would be an open invisition for the undesirables to funnel into GMS unmerited. Until GMS implements a system to track and monitor all it's users and not just ban mule after replaceable mule, creating a meso sink is pointless and does more harm than good.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Dark Link - 2011-02-03
Why are you still going on about loss of x2 rep and cards? So far you're the only one still peaching about it 2 months after BB has come out. You either need to accept the fact that it's done with, gone, non-existent, or just quit the bloody game.
Having x2 accessible at all times would only make the game even more of an utter joke than it already is, and apparently you're doing something extremely wrong if you can't even level in Maple at your level without x2 cards, as compared to me and others, where we're able to scrap by just fine.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - IllegallySane - 2011-02-03
Dark Link Wrote:Having x2 accessible at all times would only make the game even more of an utter joke than it already is.
More like less fun. Feeling forced to pat ~20 bucks a month for 2x that I can't always get to feels like a huge waste, which makes the game more of a chore. At least with 2x drop it's far easier to make back the mesos to conver to NX and even come off with a nice profit so I don't have to be on everyday.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Jamie_Kurosawa - 2011-02-03
If that's a the case Sane maybe they should look into unifying 2x Drop and 2x EXP into a single entity.
And technically if not realistically, nobody is forcing you to buy 2x.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Five Second Pose - 2011-02-03
Satellite Wrote:The point is that the Maintenance was going when it was night/early morning. If they compensate these, they should schedule event for the time the maintenance was on. Makes sense no?
No, because by your logic there'd be 2x at least once a week because of scheduled maintenance.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Panacea - 2011-02-03
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:No, because by your logic there'd be 2x at least once a week because of scheduled maintenance.
Not only that, but Nexon schedules their maintenances in the middle of the night for a reason. 2x at the same time the maintenance was at, while it would benefit Europeans, would upset a much larger crowd.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Xephia - 2011-02-03
I wish they'd go back to hosting 2 sessions of 2x exp for the event 8-12 hours apart like they used to so it'd satisfy almost anyone in any timezone.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Punch - 2011-02-04
Don't you love how Friday's 2x is earlier than Saturday and Sunday?
I don't -.- now I can't Pap during 2x on Friday.. 2 days > 1 day D=
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Twilight - 2011-02-04
Punch Wrote:Don't you love how Friday's 2x is earlier than Saturday and Sunday?
I don't -.- now I can't Pap during 2x on Friday.. 2 days > 1 day D=
...what?
2x EXP and Drop Events! - OB3LISK - 2011-02-04
Punch Wrote:Don't you love how Friday's 2x is earlier than Saturday and Sunday?
I don't -.- now I can't Pap during 2x on Friday.. 2 days > 1 day D=
Or. You could Pap Fri /Sun 2x. That's still 2 days F3.
2x EXP and Drop Events! - Punch - 2011-02-04
OB3LISK Wrote:Or. You could Pap Fri /Sun 2x. That's still 2 days F3.
Eh, Saturday/Sunday I'll do..
P.S: What mobs drop SE 30 and BE 30?
Can't find on the interweb =/