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Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-15
ItzLouis Wrote:Wow grats on getting your toe. How many Bigfoots have you killed to find that? >.<
I killed a couple of bigfoots and haven't even seen one toe. So I was thinking of getting 2x drop, would 2x drop give it at least a 50% chance of dropping the toe? =(
I've seen two toes drop out of eleven bigfoots, but the first one was KS'd by an FP mage.
Overall, I killed ten bigfoots before a toe showed up. Nine of them were solo'd, and seven after 0.60.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - psychopat - 2008-09-15
I know it would be a lot slower, but...
If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Rei - 2008-09-15
psychopat Wrote:I know it would be a lot slower, but...
If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.
I think that wouldn't work because of his annoying invincibility frames + his speed.
He might be able to jump up the side platforms and kill you.
Then again, I'm not sure, so someone can try it and let us know for sure. o:
Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-15
It does work. I do that when someone tries to interrupt me, because if I stay on the sides, there's a good chance I'll get killed in a few minutes.
I've seen a couple of people TRYING to kill me too. In those cases I just stand on the top plat and spam Eruption. One of them got so frustrated he pulled a risky maneuver and killed himself.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-15
psychopat Wrote:I know it would be a lot slower, but...yeah, in theory you could do that. It's quite a bit riskier though, because if you should fail to keep it at bay it might get around to the platforms and get up to you. Jump Down makes it easier to escape, but you can't attack him when he's above you using this method like you might with mine.
If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.
I got the idea to try this from fighting HH at the crossroads, where you put the puppet up there out of range. Sometimes I see I/Ls or F/Ps using their attacks up there on that platform, so I'd imagine they could apply this technique just like us. It would take a REALLY, REALLY long time though.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - psychopat - 2008-09-16
The first thing I said was that it would be slower...
Anyway, I wanted to clarify because it does offer more methods to kill it. If someone causes a bunch of elder wraiths or firebrand heads to come, for example, you can go up to the center of the platform and spam AE/AR until they're dead and then go back to the puppet method. As someone else also pointed out, when people come and try to mess you up or KS it, thus making the puppet useless, going to the center helps keep you alive.
Then again, you've actually soloed one and have more experience at it than I do, so I might just be full of hot air.... I think I'm going to try to kill one after I level, even though I expect to fail.
Heck, even a HH takes me 450 strafes 
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IcyGreenTea - 2008-09-16
It'll be forever before I can solo a BF on my own then.. T_T
Was planning to get toes before the patch with my friend's help... but I guess I'll have to do it myself now. Hmm, I'll probably have to be lv 120 to do that though... XD
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-16
psychopat Wrote:The first thing I said was that it would be slower...That actually is a good idea, just haven't had the opportunity to test it. :p I think that taking touch from an elder though might knock you far enough off center to be in danger though. You'd need to be killing the flying monsters pretty quick. I think Marksmen and Snipers would have an advantage in that situation since AE would push them up, away from you, where as rain would be pushing all the ones to your back right into you.
Anyway, I wanted to clarify because it does offer more methods to kill it. If someone causes a bunch of elder wraiths or firebrand heads to come, for example, you can go up to the center of the platform and spam AE/AR until they're dead and then go back to the puppet method. As someone else also pointed out, when people come and try to mess you up or KS it, thus making the puppet useless, going to the center helps keep you alive.
Then again, you've actually soloed one and have more experience at it than I do, so I might just be full of hot air.... I think I'm going to try to kill one after I level, even though I expect to fail.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Technolink - 2008-09-16
AE works the same as AR in terms of KB. Its w/e way we are facing.
Is your method possible with level 6 puppet and w/o the apple? At 102 I'd like to try it, not worth the walk to CWK from newts if I can't though.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-16
Technolink Wrote:AE works the same as AR in terms of KB. Its w/e way we are facing.level 6, sure, but you wouldn't have much time before you have to reset the puppet. Without apples, it's probably gonna take you several hours. The odds of not messing up, especially with the short duration of level 6 puppet, in that time aren't good, so you should count on dying at least once, if not several times.
Is your method possible with level 6 puppet and w/o the apple? At 102 I'd like to try it, not worth the walk to CWK from newts if I can't though.
I'd wait longer or until you've stocked up some apples.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Technolink - 2008-09-16
Doing some math, it should take 9.8 minutes of spamming with an apple to kill him. Consider that 2 apples per BF, probably more (though I wouldn't use an apple until I'm in a rythme of course).
So 5M a BF, and the star is around 50M now. Just doesn't seem worth it. If I go 10 big foots until I get the toe I'm not saving money anymore. Ontop of that, I still have to kill HH and the like as well.
And if I buy mine now, I can always go back and kill BF in the 12x or w/e and then sell my pendent. Oh well =P
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Mark - 2008-09-20
Yeah I figured this out a while ago, but it's nice for you to tell others. :3
Fighting the new Bigfoot - ItzLouis - 2008-09-20
Is this godly exp or what?
Spoiler
Also, is it just me or when someone enters the map, the puppet stops working? Cause like I had a couple of people walking in the map and everytime they did, the puppet failed and the Bigfoot started chasing me again...
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Fighting the new Bigfoot - Dusk - 2008-09-20
Wow. Bigfoot is a hell of a lot easier with a 2/3-person archer party. You don't have to worry about him running over your Puppet or other people entering your map. Just attack him from both sides, and when he gets too close to one person and they start to run out of room to retreat, they just have to Puppet and run back a few steps. Bigfoot will immediately aggro to the other person and you can continue. You can do this on any map, not just Phantom Road. My party killed 3 Bigfoots in 15-20 minutes each (and we took a while to get the pattern down, too, so theoretically it should take a couple minutes less than that). No apples were used. I used a Leaf Crystal, I'm not sure if my party used any nub pot. Our members were:
128 BM
123 BM (me)
104 Sniper
Not bad, I think. And the Sniper wasn't attacking the whole time, because she's a fraidy cat. Should take 10-15 minutes.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-27
I've killed another few for friends. This is feeling rather good.
Maybe I should consider opening up a commercial service for killing bgifoot for others, lol.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - BlueAnus - 2008-09-28
I killed two today. Most of what his here is all good, just two things to add.
In emergency situations, if you are getting cornered, these arnt guaranteed, but you can puppet to the side, and hide in a corner that is NOT the corner of the screen, just make it so bigfoot will walk over you. Also, if you REALLY need to, use the leprechauns as bump damage and then run through.
Just two suggestions to think about IF you need them.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Icedfire - 2008-10-02
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i follow pretty much the same strategy. it works really well. when you do a jump down off the side plats, for w/e reason, and say... BF jumps off the right hand one, you just jumped down from the right one. he's ticked at you, your puppet is dead. if you cast on the middle (so he tries to go over you) will he jump you, like the pigs do at rainforest east of henesys?
i never wanted to check lol. 12k isn't very nice.
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Fighting the new Bigfoot - Technolink - 2008-10-02
Using this strategy, I killed BF (almost)!
I took down around 85% of it, then a lvl 180 hero came in and 'ksed' me, but still gave me the toe ^^
So 85% of BF's HP took 1 hour and 55 minutes.
This includes 20+ deaths from lag, elder wraiths, out of control BF, and general stupidity (I have the map so its a short walk back).
2 bathroom breaks
A 5 minute conversation with someone asking me "Why are you killing at such a low level, your taking kills from people that need it, yada yada yada" eventually convinced him that 2 hours or 20 minutes, the BF is going to spawn next just the same, and its mine until then.
The strategy worked beautifully. With a 20 second puppet at level 102, only dragon food used as pots, I was able to keep BF under control in a puppet chain for 10 minutes at a time, followed by some uncertainty where he would go 3 or 4 puppets then escape (usually when I died). All in all it worked nicely, and I really lucked out on the toe dropping.
So yea, got my pendent ^^
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Mark - 2008-10-02
Just an added note from one of my many solos:
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I prefer using the right side of the map as there isn't a ridiculous hill-like structure. Also sticking the puppet on the far right and left smaller platforms is safer and easier. Once Bigfoot breaks out of your hold, run to the top and wait to see what it does, then once it goes under one of the smaller platforms AE/AR it and stick puppet right there and he'll never reach it.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Technolink - 2008-10-02
Actually, come to think of it, the left side would be better for above method. With your method (as with this thread's) you have to jump to the higher platform, puppet, then come down and attack.
With the left side set, the side with the hill (right) forces your puppet up.
Thus you can attack BF a ton, then just place puppet again. As long as he doesn't jump up again, and as long as the slope isn't too great to miss that tiny hit-box of his (I don't think it is)