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Building/Buying a gaming PC - Cyadd - 2010-08-22

You might want to get a 1GB 460. Futureproofedness.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Kevin645 - 2010-08-22

The Half CM 932 is quite big, when I was building my PC I considered the same thing but When I saw it in person I changed my mind and got the mid tower case.
CASE:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197&cm_re=haf_922-_-11-119-197-_-Product
CPU:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000343&IsNodeId=1&Description=phenom%20ii%20x4&name=Processors%20-%20Desktops
Pick from the list, better to get black edition, both are good depends if you want the fastest or a the bit slower..
Memory: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226103 go with this brand, Crucial has been unreliable for quite some time. There 500 dollar Memory kits have failed numerous times compared to Corsair Memory kits
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443
Chipset question: The 8xx series chipest has faster sata,faster USB, option to do SLi/CrossFire
The other thing I must mention is this, AMD Motherboards only support Crossfire meaning that Ati Cards will work together on them. Only the premium boards have support for SLi
So go with something = to a 460 gtx which is 5830
GPU:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007708%20600030349%20600007320%20600007612&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%205830
Power supply: A 500-700 watt will work fine for your needs http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007656%2050001459%204802&IsNodeId=1&name=Corsair
Pick from the corsair brands

Also if you have a near by microcenter you can bargain offers with them..
Say you find something cheaper at newegg, you can show it to them to lower down the price of the item
Any other questions?
Like others have said: LOOK AT THE REVIEWS OF PRODUCTS THAT YOU LIKE OR ARE GIVEN.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Hiepocrite - 2010-08-22

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Building/Buying a gaming PC - Kevin645 - 2010-08-22

I bought most of my parts there after telling them that the corsair tx750 was 100 bucks and they were selling for 150 They lowered down to 110

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-22

Kevin, do you have any specific reasons to recommend what you put up there?

Everything seems to cost more, and I guess I'll upgrade if I still have room in my budget. What would be top priority to improve from my current build?

As for the case, I know how big it is. I'm definitely sure I want a full tower case.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - ★★★★★ - 2010-08-22

Chewy Wrote:Kevin, do you have any specific reasons to recommend what you put up there?

Everything seems to cost more, and I guess I'll upgrade if I still have room in my budget. What would be top priority to improve from my current build?

As for the case, I know how big it is. I'm definitely sure I want a full tower case.

Really? A full tower? Those are like...almost NEVER used. Pretty much everything nowadays can fit into a mid-tower.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Kevin645 - 2010-08-22

The reason is well because these brands are very well known to produce good products that won't really be RMA'd and have good warranties if anything ever want wrong.
Just quickly list the products you want and I will compare it. Won't be active for a while...

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-22

AMD Athlon II X4 635
MSI 770-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
COOLER MASTER HAF 932
EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460

That's what I have so far. As far as I know, all of those are from well known brands. What do you think? A lot of your stuff is more expensive. If after I still have some money left, I guess I'll get what you recommended instead of some parts.

Also, I have a question: what does 6gb/s mean?

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Fiel - 2010-08-22

It's the SATA III interface which uses Gigabaud/sec (or gigabits/sec) for measuring bandwidth. It doesn't mean much unless you're getting an SSD. Just make sure the interfaces match.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-22

So guys, I've gotten a build together. Here it is:

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 635 $102.99
Mobo: MSI 770-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard $84.99
RAM: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $93.99
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $159.99 (with $20.00 instant rebate: $139.99)
GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 $229.99
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W 119.99 (with $25.00 instant rebate $94.99)
HDD: 2 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM (for 1TB of storage) $114.98 ($57.49 each)
CD/DVD ROM: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD $18.99

Total price without shipping: $880.91

I think I've got it all. What do you guys think? Any parts I'm missing? Oh, and another question. Will the CD/DVD ROM burn discs? (this seems like it is a stupid question)

So yeah. After all of that, I still have some breathing room. (My budget was $1,000). After all of the shipping costs, I'm gonna say I'll have $50 left (rough estimate). Anything I could upgrade for $50? Or maybe get some accessories? I dunno. What do you think?

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Derosis - 2010-08-23

Chewy Wrote:So guys, I've gotten a build together. Here it is:

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 635 $102.99
Mobo: MSI 770-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard $84.99
RAM: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $93.99
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $159.99 (with $20.00 instant rebate: $139.99)
GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 $229.99
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W 119.99 (with $25.00 instant rebate $94.99)
HDD: 2 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM (for 1TB of storage) $114.98 ($57.49 each)
CD/DVD ROM: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD $18.99


Total price without shipping: $880.91

I think I've got it all. What do you guys think? Any parts I'm missing? Oh, and another question. Will the CD/DVD ROM burn discs? (this seems like it is a stupid question)

So yeah. After all of that, I still have some breathing room. (My budget was $1,000). After all of the shipping costs, I'm gonna say I'll have $50 left (rough estimate). Anything I could upgrade for $50? Or maybe get some accessories? I dunno. What do you think?

Do you have anything you could recycle off of your old desktops like your CD/DVD ROM ? it saves a couple of bucks trust me. I saved 20$ on a ROM and bought a better Graphics card.

What kind of monitor do you have? how old is it? Do you have things like the Power and etc.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-23

Oh, now that you mention it, I DO have an old CD/DVD ROM/

I have an old SyncMaster 172n moniter (17 inches), a keyboard, a mouse, and an old CD/DVD ROM.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Skylit - 2010-08-23

Chewy Wrote:AMD Athlon II X4 635

MSI 770-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

The 870 revision is a little cheaper, It's pretty much the same board with an updated north bridge.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130290&cm_re=870-_-13-130-290-_-Product

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231320&cm_re=gskill_eco-_-20-231-320-_-Product

Gskill ECO's are pretty much the cheapest bang for buck kits for the AMD platform. They perform extremely well and are capable of reaching speeds up to DDR3 2000 with a good integrated memory controller.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932

EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460

That's what I have so far. As far as I know, all of those are from well known brands. What do you think? A lot of your stuff is more expensive. If after I still have some money left, I guess I'll get what you recommended instead of some parts.

Also, I have a question: what does 6gb/s mean?


In bold.


Answer:

The AMD 710 SouthBridge can only read up to speeds around 3 GB/S. A 6GB/S controller allows RAID arrays and high performance SSDs to exceed the limits opposed on the board. It's pretty much useless right now unless you're dealing with a couple SSDs in RAID0. Standard mechanical hard drives only churn out 120 MB/S or 1.2Gb/s.

example:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=western_digital_6_gb%2fs-_-22-136-533-_-Product

The hard drive above is listed as 6.0 GB/S, but it's only capable of around 1.2GB/S as is. Pure marketing BS right out of WD lol

Building/Buying a gaming PC - JoeTang - 2010-08-23

I'd recommend that Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black instead of the two 500GB from Samsung, just because it's better GB/$ and you don't have to transfer between two drives.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Skylit - 2010-08-23

JoeTang Wrote:I'd recommend that Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black instead of the two 500GB from Samsung, just because it's better GB/$ and you don't have to transfer between two drives.


He could raid, and besides, the Samsung F3's are pretty much the fastest mechanical drives you can buy atm. The Raptors only up the F3's on access time.


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Chewy Wrote:So guys, I've gotten a build together. Here it is:

PSU: [url=http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1]
I think I've got it all. What do you guys think? Any parts I'm missing? Oh, and another question. Will the CD/DVD ROM burn discs? (this seems like it is a stupid question)

So yeah. After all of that, I still have some breathing room. (My budget was $1,000). After all of the shipping costs, I'm gonna say I'll have $50 left (rough estimate). Anything I could upgrade for $50? Or maybe get some accessories? I dunno. What do you think?

Sorry, didn't see this.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021&cm_re=antec_truepower_new-_-17-371-021-_-Product

I have to recommend the PSU above. The 650TX runs on an older outdated seasonic platform. The Antec TP NEW 650 is far superior IMHO.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-23

Thanks for the recommendations guys, I'm goin' to bed, but I'll check 'em out in the morning.

I just wanted to say, forget about the extra money I had, I forgot to get an OS.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=windows_7_home_premium_64_bit-_-32-116-754-_-Product

I'm confused about the whole "for system builders" thing, but I'm assuming it doesn't really matter. Could someone clear this up?

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Skylit - 2010-08-23

Chewy Wrote:Thanks for the recommendations guys, I'm goin' to bed, but I'll check 'em out in the morning.

I just wanted to say, forget about the extra money I had, I forgot to get an OS.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=windows_7_home_premium_64_bit-_-32-116-754-_-Product

I'm confused about the whole "for system builders" thing, but I'm assuming it doesn't really matter. Could someone clear this up?


It's OEM. 1 time use, tied to the motherboard. If you wanted to switch or upgrade your MB, you would have to call microsoft and see if they're nice enough to let you reuse.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Kevin645 - 2010-08-23

Actually there is a way to get 2 keys off the Copy. You either had to call Mircosoft or use the website to activate the key. If you have a friend or you have a retail copy it could work.
You can be saving 50 bucks on a case and could be spent else where to boost your performance

Building/Buying a gaming PC - XTOTHEL - 2010-08-23

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490

look into SSD for boot if you can afford a good sized one or put a few hard drives in raid.

Building/Buying a gaming PC - Chewy - 2010-08-23

Alright. I'm back with a refined build. Thanks for the recommendations guys. Oh, and I can't reuse my old CD/DVD ROM anymore. Meh.

So, here it is.

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 635 $102.99
Mobo: MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 870 ATX AMD Motherboard $71.99
RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $102.99
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced $99.99 (with $10.00 instant rebate: $89.99)
GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 $229.99
PSU: Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 $135.49 (with $31.00 instant rebate $104.49)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB 5400 RPM $71.99
CD/DVD ROM: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD $18.99
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium English $224.99 (with $19.00 instant rebate $205.99)

Subtotal: $999.41

So, I got a different OS now. It's not OEM. So, I'm assuming I can use it multiple times. It costs $200 though. I really have no idea if this is standard. I'm pretty sure it's 64-bit. It doesn't say in the name, but looking through the specs it said something about 64-bit. Could someone confirm this?

So yeah. that's my refined build. Comments?