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Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - xDae - 2008-07-02
HiiEN Wrote:I can only think of two: Horntail Pendants and Zakum Helmets. Now that I think about it, drop rate increases the rate that the item drops, not the amount that it drops by. But when you start seeing doubles of equips and skills... I'm starting to wonder about it at all. Of course, I'm not complaining. Oh and for the correction, eggs and Maple Warrior 20 don't stack on top of each other. In fact, most of the time they drop on opposite ends of the map. Only thing that literally stacks are the Horntail pendants, and you also get two rows of equips and skills.
This is defiantely something people gotta keep in mind. But at the same time, if you increase the rate at which it drops, wouldn't you see more of it? SO its kinda the same thing.....right?
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
xDae Wrote:This is defiantely something people gotta keep in mind. But at the same time, if you increase the rate at which it drops, wouldn't you see more of it? SO its kinda the same thing.....right?I believe they're two separate things. That's why even though you buy a double drop card you never see monsters drop more than 2 of the same item at the same time, however you would see them drop more often, just not from the same monster at once.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
I saw a pic, I think of Synergy HT run with stacked mw 20. I'm fairly sure, brb searching.
Edit: Hmm maybe not, can't find it anyway.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
I'm not saying MW20 doesn't drop twice, but it doesn't stack literally. I go on Horntail runs and MW20 drops on two different ends of the map all the time.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
HiiEN Wrote:I'm not saying MW20 doesn't drop twice, but it doesn't stack literally. I go on Horntail runs and MW20 drops on two different ends of the map all the time.
Yeah I understood what you meant but I thought I'd seen a screenshot with mw20 stacked. I guess I was wrong.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - Stereo - 2008-07-02
Avenge Wrote:and zakum drops better be a joke because i went to 2 zakum runs in a row a few days ago, and nothing but 1 weapon and a couple helmets dropped each run.
Haven't you done Zakum since 4th job patch? Its drop rate was messed up then (at the time they switched from level 90 to 100 weapons) and only 1 weapon and maybe a helm or two has been typical since then.
I guess the lack of 2x drops would make it look like that if your group always uses the 2x drop to increase his rewards.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Stereo Wrote:Haven't you done Zakum since 4th job patch? Its drop rate was messed up then (at the time they switched from level 90 to 100 weapons) and only 1 weapon and maybe a helm or two has been typical since then.
I guess the lack of 2x drops would make it look like that if your group always uses the 2x drop to increase his rewards.
That would be the case since every organised zakum group uses 2x drop for every run.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
Yeah but the thing is 2x drop no longer works with Zakum. And as for Horntail I don't know about other groups but for mine before the increased rates, 2x drop wouldn't work on the last arm, either.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
HiiEN Wrote:Yeah but the thing is 2x drop no longer works with Zakum. And as for Horntail I don't know about other groups but for mine before the increased rates, 2x drop wouldn't work on the last arm, either.
From what I've heard 2x drop doesn't work at all and so it doesn't work at zakum either.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
Actually before drops were adjusted 2x drop did work on Zakum to the extent of my knowledge. I've tested it by running with groups with and without 2x drop cards multiple times. Using a drop card back then would almost always drop 4-5 helms. Without a drop card it would drop only 1-2 helms.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
I meant that 2x drop cards don't work outside zakum at the moment. They don't work anywhere at all. Or that's what multiple people said on sw, didn't try it myself.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
Oh that's what you meant. I guess if that's the case 2x drop cards must be broken altogether. I'm just glad Horntail's rate was naturally (if you want to put it that way) increased so there's no need for a 2x drop card at the moment.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - WillDaSnail - 2008-07-02
Well from what Im observing, I noted that Zakum's drop rate of helmets & equips have been slightly lower recently (they likely altered the drop rate after patch .55 or .56). But for the level 20/30 skillbooks out of Zakum, I noted a MAJOR difference....you're already considered lucky if a skillbook comes out (mastery books, aka level 20/30 books are noticebably rare from what I saw off Zakum kill screenies)
(2x Drop card DOES work on Zakum, except right now the card itself is screwed up.....)
But HT drops - wow, since Patch .56, the drop rate is literally rigged IMO. The drops that come out of HT is literally equivalent of killing 2 HT's at the same time. And from what I saw, drops literally flooding the floor from end to end.
(Pendants, equips, mastery books, and even pots are dropping 2x than it should be. For example, I saw 4 pendants drop from 1 HT, 2 MW's from another, 2 Tomahawks from one....yeah you get my point).
P.S. 2x Drop on HT is going to make things so rigged, lol.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
WillDaSnail Wrote:Well from what Im observing, I noted that Zakum's drop rate of helmets & equips have been slightly lower recently (they likely altered the drop rate after patch .55 or .56). But for the level 20/30 skillbooks out of Zakum, I noted a MAJOR difference....you're already considered lucky if a skillbook comes out (mastery books, aka level 20/30 books are noticebably rare from what I saw off Zakum kill screenies)
(2x Drop card DOES work on Zakum, except right now the card itself is screwed up.....)
But HT drops - wow, since Patch .56, the drop rate is literally rigged IMO. The drops that come out of HT is literally equivalent of killing 2 HT's at the same time. And from what I saw, drops literally flooding the floor from end to end.
(Pendants, equips, mastery books, and even pots are dropping 2x than it should be. For example, I saw 4 pendants drop from 1 HT, 2 MW's from another, 2 Tomahawks from one....yeah you get my point).
P.S. 2x Drop on HT is going to make things so rigged, lol.
Yeah the amount of skill drops from HT is rediculous, although I think the new pendant/egg drop rates are quite nice actually...
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - Mira - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:Yeah the amount of skill drops from HT is rediculous, although I think the new pendant/egg drop rates are quite nice actually...
The sooner I can be taken on a HT run to finish the quest, the better. The more egg and pandant drop means this date is closer.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - HiiEN - 2008-07-02
I don't think 2x drop ever worked on Horntail ever, even before this patch. Drops were always the same to me. Just as a note, its a guaranteed fact that Horntail will always drop 4-5 pendants, 2 eggs, 2 Maple Warrior 20 books, and a ton of everything else. Pendants always dropped more than once though, they're like zakum helms.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - ablu2 - 2008-07-02
2 MaNeY WoWrdS iN ToPiC!!!1111111ONEONEONE
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
ablu2 Wrote:2 MaNeY WoWrdS iN ToPiC!!!1111111ONEONEONE
Please keep these kind of comments in the funhouse.
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - Cardboardsnail - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:Please keep these kind of comments in the funhouse.
Congratualtions, "Admiral boom"
Anyway, I think the drop rate was changed for a reason
With 4th job, zakum is nothing
Horntail/Zakum Drops: Intentional or Accidental? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Cardboardsnail Wrote:Congratualtions, "Admiral boom"
Oh yes!