MetaSeraphim Wrote:Again archers stay far away from a monster to attack it. They shouldn't need a +30 speed passive bonus to get away from a monster. Since in most cases they can move two inches and start attacking a monster again, while a warrior has to run halfway across the map/

Jellyflower Wrote:Type 20 is weapons, isn't it? Type 40 should be all type of accessories - earrings, eye, face, pendant, belt, ring. For your tops only part, the ??? is 2% chance of being invincible for however many seconds listed in your formula. You missed out on overalls (I think type 53, not entirely sure), they share the same options as top, except it also comes with reduces the numbers of seconds of abnormal status +whatever formula is. For gloves only, the unique primary is 1% or 2% of autosteal when attacked depending on item level. Type 90 is not something GMS has, I know it's not ring, but it could be pet equip but we have nothing of that sort.

Edit: Nevermind, type 10 should be weapons, type 20 should be armors, which include all non accessories nor weapons, not sure about shields. Which would be helmet, gloves, cape, shoes, overall, top, bottom.

Duelman Wrote:Are you guys sure HB can't spawn on overalls? That seems a little off since archers and mages only have overalls to use, no options really.

edit: also is it like that in kms? did we get an altered version or something?

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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Again archers stay far away from a monster to attack it. They shouldn't need a +30 speed passive bonus to get away from a monster. Since in most cases they can move two inches and start attacking a monster again, while a warrior has to run halfway across the map/

IsaacGS Wrote:Come on, obviously wasn't referring to pirates. I forget pirates exist except when crappy pirate gear is clogging up my inventory instead of literally any other class's gear that i could use. The skills are only available on level 70+ gear, according to this, and archers only have pants up to 40. But i suppose gunslingers need it as well, and what do you know, they can't get it. SE only coming on level 120 gear, when all archers have SE at that point, the exception being a wind archer but no one is going to play a 120 wind archer.

*sigh* it just seems as though everything KMS does lately is an extra "pineapple you" to archers. Our most valuable skill is up for grabs for anyone, but we can't get most of theirs, and even the ones we could get are far less useful by comparison. Haste for SE? please. When you add this in with Thorns and the ridiculous alterations to the acc, avoid and critical formulas in Big Bang they basically beat the pomegranate out of us and kicked us back to the bottom of the stack. Granted these skills aren't exactly easy to get without spending hundreds on cubes, but the point remains.

Basically three things that made me want to play an archer:
1. The ability to hit any monster (No longer true post BB since the only crucial factor in accuracy is level, rendering the accuracy stat worthless)
2. Critical hits for nice damage (Criticals in KMS are far, far weaker than they are prior to BB. To the point where my wild hunter occasionally hits criticals that are lower than non-criticals in the same attack.)
3. Eventual 90% Mastery reduces the weak hits which plague us through the prior 120 levels. (Mastery is also really wonky after big bang, and the rate is dropped off as well from 90 to 70)

I also liked playing Aran and Evan, who have the exact same abilities (high mastery and criticals). Now all 3 of them get severely weakened in big bang. It's very de-motivating.

anyway back onto the point, only warriors and some thieves wear top + bottom sets at high levels, and they're the ones who need survivability bonuses the least. Putting HB on pants was a moronic thing to do.

And for the record Evan dragon gear can't have potential, so that can't be the mystery group.

Quote:3. Eventual 90% Mastery reduces the weak hits which plague us through the prior 120 levels. (Mastery is also really wonky after big bang, and the rate is dropped off as well from 90 to 70)

McAwesomesauce Wrote:When monsters get close, a Bowman needs to run the pineapple away and reposition him/herself. When monsters get KBed to other side of the map with DB, they need to get back within range quickly.

MetaSeraphim Wrote:Again archers stay far away from a monster to attack it. They shouldn't need a +30 speed passive bonus to get away from a monster. Since in most cases they can move two inches and start attacking a monster again, while a warrior has to run halfway across the map/

SlayerZach Wrote:This is very helpful. Although the one thing that confuses me is the "job adv range". Can someone explain? :^|

Neothisis Wrote:Uhhh...what's Primary and Secondary for?

Cyanne Wrote:Usually the first line of potential on your equipment gives a primary bonus, and the second and third lines are secondary, although the second and third lines each seem to have a small chance to add a primary bonus.

Neothisis Wrote:[COLOR="orange"]Darn, that was the worst case scenario I had in mind. =X
You wouldn't happen to know if you turn the secondaries into primaries, would they stay primary? Like how it works with Rank increases and stat 2 to 3 increases?[/COLOR]

Neothisis Wrote:[COLOR="orange"]Darn, that was the worst case scenario I had in mind. =X
You wouldn't happen to know if you turn the secondaries into primaries, would they stay primary? Like how it works with Rank increases and stat 2 to 3 increases?[/COLOR]

Arrg Wrote:Minimum range to attack doesn't exist anymore post-big bang, so DB is entirely useless. Thrust could easily be replaced by a %HP skill

Jellyflower Wrote:I did 3 cubes on pants after unique and it appeared, same with haste shoes. Door helm took 7 or 10 before it appeared. And the level requirement for options and mini skills refer to the item level, not your character level. (Not that your character level matters since you can't equip the item anyway if you don't meet the requirement) This I'm 100% sure.

Dusk Wrote:You can't turn a secondary bonus into a primary one.

ArbalistMaster Wrote:So, if you're looking for end game equips, you'll want to keep items that after the first magnifying glass have a 3 bonuses and all 3 of them are primary. Then just cube them til they're unique and you get the best stats for your class?

McAwesomesauce Wrote:That's Marksmanship, which is in 4th Job.