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About the Temple of Time Bosses - SuGaRnSp1C3 - 2008-08-30

Jeez...Raikas does move ridiculously slow(never seen this boss before). :f6:...Nice viper though <3


About the Temple of Time Bosses - WiseAlon32 - 2008-08-30

randompeep Wrote:Magic Guard doesn't reduce damage, either. It just moves most of the damage into MP.

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you just said it....
i never said it reduces that damage that is dealt, but it sure as hell prevents easy death for mages cuz of their own dmg reflections (or any other dmg).

anyways, from the information cyanne gave it seems more like a skill that makes the fight longer and not tougher anyways. Rolleyes


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Wani - 2008-08-30

That's an interesting seduce, it's not the same as HT's one. HT's one makes you run in either direction or occasionally jump on the spot, this seems to only make you jump to the left and nothing else.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - ultimax21 - 2008-08-30

Wani Wrote:That's an interesting seduce, it's not the same as HT's one. HT's one makes you run in either direction or occasionally jump on the spot, this seems to only make you jump to the left and nothing else.

I'm pretty sure this is what Pink Been is based off of as well because it only seduces you to the right. Well this is good news for some people I guess. I don't know if there are any other hidden changes to the seduce effects outside of HT besides how the AI works for seduce regarding Time Temple.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Takebacker - 2008-08-30

Sure is a pain for vipers using transform seeing as they have such limited time using it.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Cyanne - 2008-08-30

ultimax21 Wrote:I'm pretty sure this is what Pink Been is based off of as well because it only seduces you to the right. Well this is good news for some people I guess. I don't know if there are any other hidden changes to the seduce effects outside of HT besides how the AI works for seduce regarding Time Temple.

The pink bean statue's seduce is the same as raika's, making you only jump left. The deadly part about this is that jumping will make you take statue touch damage depending on where you are and if the statue's alive or not, which is an instant kill for most classes. To make things even worse, the order of entrance is apparently random, so you can't choose who gets seduced first like in horntail.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Harrisonized - 2008-08-30

Cyanne Wrote:The pink bean statue's seduce is the same as raika's, making you only jump left. The deadly part about this is that jumping will make you take statue touch damage depending on where you are and if the statue's alive or not, which is an instant kill for most classes. To make things even worse, the order of entrance is apparently random, so you can't choose who gets seduced first like in horntail.

If you get seduced, and are about to die, then just use Hero's Will and quickly get out of the way. However, when I ask most of the higher leveled players, nobody puts any points in Hero's Will, saying that it's useless and a waste of SP. So in other words, when Pink Bean comes out, nobody will be prepared. Now I'm glad I have the skill.

If it's at random, what are the chances you'll get seduced twice within 10 minutes? Cuz if you can't get seduced twice within 10 minutes, then you'll be perfectly safe. Just call out when you're seduced, and keep track of who hasn't been seduced yet to determine who's next. (If there are 30 players killing Pink Bean, and it seduced one person every 20 seconds, or one party every 2 minutes, then nobody should die from it.)


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Russt - 2008-08-30

She said the order of entrance is random, not the seduce's target.

So presumably the first person that happens to ping the server after appearing in the map gets seduced until s/he dies.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Wani - 2008-08-30

Harrisonized Wrote:If you get seduced, and are about to die, then just use Hero's Will and quickly get out of the way. However, when I ask most of the higher leveled players, nobody puts any points in Hero's Will, saying that it's useless and a waste of SP. So in other words, when Pink Bean comes out, nobody will be prepared. Now I'm glad I have the skill.

If it's at random, what are the chances you'll get seduced twice within 10 minutes? Cuz if you can't get seduced twice within 10 minutes, then you'll be perfectly safe. Just call out when you're seduced, and keep track of who hasn't been seduced yet to determine who's next. (If there are 30 players killing Pink Bean, and it seduced one person every 20 seconds, or one party every 2 minutes, then nobody should die from it.)

Most people above 170ish have a point on HW, but really, it's useless at HT.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Cyanne - 2008-08-30

Russt Wrote:She said the order of entrance is random, not the seduce's target.

So presumably the first person that happens to ping the server after appearing in the map gets seduced until s/he dies.

Doesn't order of entrance into the map determine the order of the people targeted by seduce?


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Harrisonized - 2008-08-30

Wani Wrote:Most people above 170ish have a point on HW, but really, it's useless at HT.
Well, I got the point in realizing that Horntail isn't the only one going to be using Seduce, but most people seem not to care.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Cyanne - 2008-08-30

Harrisonized Wrote:If you get seduced, and are about to die, then just use Hero's Will and quickly get out of the way. However, when I ask most of the higher leveled players, nobody puts any points in Hero's Will, saying that it's useless and a waste of SP. So in other words, when Pink Bean comes out, nobody will be prepared. Now I'm glad I have the skill.

If it's at random, what are the chances you'll get seduced twice within 10 minutes? Cuz if you can't get seduced twice within 10 minutes, then you'll be perfectly safe. Just call out when you're seduced, and keep track of who hasn't been seduced yet to determine who's next. (If there are 30 players killing Pink Bean, and it seduced one person every 20 seconds, or one party every 2 minutes, then nobody should die from it.)

It mass seduces (like 20+ people) somewhat often, at least often enough so that the 10 minute cooldown will still make hero's will useless.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Russt - 2008-08-31

Cyanne Wrote:Doesn't order of entrance into the map determine the order of the people targeted by seduce?
Yes, I meant that the order was random, not the target each time was random.

Or am I misunderstanding this whole thing because I've never been in a 50 km radius of HT?


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Cyanne - 2008-08-31

^If I remember correctly, horntail always targets the first person/people to enter the map until he/she/they is/are dead, so it's probably the same for the statue, only you can't control who gets seduced and who doesn't.

Oh and I was wrong about the statue's seduce; it casts three different forms of it. It can make you jump left, walk left, or jump right.


About the Temple of Time Bosses - Russt - 2008-08-31

Yes, then that's what I meant. Harrisonized meant that HW would be useful because the seduce's target was chosen randomly each time it was casted, and the chance of being seduced twice in 10 minutes was low. I was saying that wouldn't be the case.

"So presumably the first person that happens to ping the server after appearing in the map gets seduced until s/he dies."