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HP washing and the Updates - endomorphin - 2010-07-11
... so if post-Big Bang HP washing gives even more HP per wash, then wouldn't a pre-Big bang HP washed character be innately inferior to a post-Big bang character as the same number of washes would give more HP to the post-Big bang character?
Or does the patch take into account points put into HP (as a result of HP washing or otherwise) and increase your max HP accordingly?
HP washing and the Updates - RokudoSan - 2010-07-11
CautionSin Wrote:Anyways, I personally am just waiting to see how this all plays out on GMS, I can potentially wash 80 times on my NL currently. I dont think anyone has an right answer as to whether to wash now or after patch or if it even matters.
I guess I'll keep reading up on whats going on in KMS with their washing and decide around 120 how much im gona wash my dual blade then. Thanks for your opinion ^_^
HP washing and the Updates - Wiire - 2010-07-12
The HP washing formula could be changed tho?
HP washing and the Updates - CautionSin - 2010-07-12
Wiire Wrote:The HP washing formula could be changed tho?
That is possible, until someone starts washing from kms we'll never know though. They could hv changed the min mp, amt of mp taken per point, amt of hp given per point, even amt of int / mp
HP washing and the Updates - Goals - 2010-07-12
endomorphin Wrote:... so if post-Big Bang HP washing gives even more HP per wash, then wouldn't a pre-Big bang HP washed character be innately inferior to a post-Big bang character as the same number of washes would give more HP to the post-Big bang character?
Or does the patch take into account points put into HP (as a result of HP washing or otherwise) and increase your max HP accordingly?
Also, wouldn't a pre-Big bang unwashed character be inferior to a post- Big Bang unwashed character as well? As far as I know, characters made before the balancing didn't get compensation for extra HP NOT gained through the new AP formulas.
HP washing and the Updates - Hazzy - 2010-07-12
CautionSin Wrote:That is possible, until someone starts washing from kms we'll never know though. They could hv changed the min mp, amt of mp taken per point, amt of hp given per point, even amt of int / mp
For all we know, they fixed washing. HP and MP could have separate AP storage. I can test HP and MP gained per AP by different classes, but I don't have the NX to wash even in part.
HP washing and the Updates - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-07-13
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:There's a small test in the mess of kmsT extractions where a gunslinger did an HP wash test.
In GMS, on a sair the average blooded point is 19 HP
In kmsT, the person got 40~ hp from a single blooded point.
I haven't encountered any other testing on blooding/washing, but if we make assumptions and go on that alone, the best thing to do for hp washers is save your HP and blood it after big bang update. I don't know how pre-blooded points would work though.
Seems a lot of people above skipped this. Answers a few questions above.
HP washing and the Updates - CautionSin - 2010-07-13
Hazzy Wrote:For all we know, they fixed washing. HP and MP could have separate AP storage. I can test HP and MP gained per AP by different classes, but I don't have the NX to wash even in part.
That it could
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:Seems a lot of people above skipped this. Answers a few questions above.
Well, the "could have changed hp given per point," is in fact certain. Though it's worth pointing out that you did say kmst. The hp given per point confirmed change in kmst, could have not been carried over to kms.
HP washing and the Updates - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-07-13
CautionSin Wrote:Well, the "could have changed hp given per point," is in fact certain. Though it's worth pointing out that you did say kmst. The hp given per point confirmed change in kmst, could have not been carried over to kms.
While it couldn't, it's a pretty fair assumption to say it was since most things are jsut copy+pasted over anyways.
HP washing and the Updates - blitzkrieg - 2010-07-13
just putting this out here - in the latest kMS patch I lost about 300 HP on my captain. I HP washed a good amount before the revamp.
edit: and now in the latest server check I gained over 1k HP. nexon can't make up their minds. started at 4503 HP before the revamp patch, then it went down to 4219, now it's 5579.
HP washing and the Updates - endomorphin - 2010-07-18
nevermind.
HP washing and the Updates - Dusk - 2010-07-19
I just levelled a gunslinger in KMS from 10-17 and I gained 22-26 HP every level. I don't see where the change in HP gain is coming from.
HP washing and the Updates - endomorphin - 2010-07-19
Dusk Wrote:I just levelled a gunslinger in KMS from 10-17 and I gained 22-26 HP every level. I don't see where the change in HP gain is coming from.
From putting AP directly into HP as done in certain forms of HP washing.
That's my source of worry: If I HP wash now, my character will be innately inferior to a post-big bang character HP washed the same number of times.
Unless Nexon is smart enough to compensate for it (yeah, right).
HP washing and the Updates - Takebacker - 2010-07-19
endomorphin Wrote:From putting AP directly into HP as done in certain forms of HP washing.
What's your point? He's looking for a change in unwashed HP gain, since it's apparently different. Putting points into HP doesn't have anything to do with that.
HP washing and the Updates - endomorphin - 2010-07-19
Takebacker Wrote:What's your point? He's looking for a change in unwashed HP gain, since it's apparently different. Putting points into HP doesn't have anything to do with that.
Read my edit, the thread clearly is significantly devoted to HP washing as it relates to pre/post-big bang formulas.
HP washing and the Updates - Manu - 2010-07-19
blitzkrieg Wrote:just putting this out here - in the latest kMS patch I lost about 300 HP on my captain. I HP washed a good amount before the revamp.
edit: and now in the latest server check I gained over 1k HP. nexon can't make up their minds. started at 4503 HP before the revamp patch, then it went down to 4219, now it's 5579.
Perhaps they re-made your HP, and just used a formula based on the level, then they noticed that some people were hp washed and gave them more hp because of the washing?
How much had you washed? Maybe that translates to around 1k after the new hp system
HP washing and the Updates - jhkplaya888 - 2010-07-20
GMS is giving free ap reset scrolls
I have 30 missing ap.
I can add hp now and gain perhaps 20 hp per point
Or i can wait till big bang update.
Does anyone know if there will be any differences in hp gained per point? Cause i am tempted to wait and just wash some dex to luck.
HP washing and the Updates - endomorphin - 2010-07-21
jhkplaya888 Wrote:GMS is giving free ap reset scrolls
I have 30 missing ap.
I can add hp now and gain perhaps 20 hp per point
Or i can wait till big bang update.
Does anyone know if there will be any differences in hp gained per point? Cause i am tempted to wait and just wash some dex to luck.
Read the thread.