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[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Eos - 2010-06-23

Hazzy Wrote:Mabinogi has a better windowed mode. You can stretch the window to your liking, or just maximize it to your screen while still being in windowed mode. It's so fucking awesome. Why can't we have nice things like this?

Because mabi uses models and textures that retain aspect ratio when resized while maple is using sprites that would just pixelate further when expanded.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Hazzy - 2010-06-23

DxWnd or something worked fairly well for Window-izing Maple and allowing stretching. If you play Maple on a high resolution monitor, it's going to look pixelated in full screen anyway.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-06-23

AngryFungus Wrote:Doesn't this mean Mortal Blow is now useless?

I believe that skill was taken out completely if i'm not mistaken.

iamflip Wrote:So... if I understand this correctly, under this new formula, m.atk will be like... 1 per somethingamount of INT and stuff rather than 1 INT = 1 m.atk?

Yeah something like that. Currently I think it's around 1.05 Mattack = 1 int

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - FrozNlite - 2010-06-23

ShiKage Wrote:Um... That may be how it is for Magicians, but I don't think that's how it is for everyone, unless I have way above the proper DEX for my level as a Crusader (currently 70 base DEX at level 86).

From what I can tell (KaidaTan was actually the one that originally said this)...
The new accuracy formula isn't based too much on your characters accuracy. Rather, it's based a lot more on level. If you're below a monster's level, you will always have a set miss rate. Once you become the same level of or higher than the monster, all of the misses will completely disappear and you will hit the monster at a 100% rate.

This is what I was hoping would be the case, instead of just utilizing a "0" for same level or higher in accuracy calculations.

Because level now has such a dominant factor in accuracy calculations, with accuracy increasing every level about the mob's level, this means Lv. 200s have the least to worry about, correct? In other words, it's still possible to be "statless" in your secondary stat and still hit mobs 100% provided your level greatly exceeds that of the mob?

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Hotshot - 2010-06-23

Eosian Wrote:Gotta have strong arms to hold your weapon steady enough to aim. Rolleyes

That's actually factored into equipping the weapon already. STR is only required for weapons after level 50+ equipment. Nice try. Rolleyes

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Link - 2010-06-23

FrozNlite Wrote:This is what I was hoping would be the case, instead of just utilizing a "0" for same level or higher in accuracy calculations.

Because level now has such a dominant factor in accuracy calculations, with accuracy increasing every level about the mob's level, this means Lv. 200s have the least to worry about, correct? In other words, it's still possible to be "statless" in your secondary stat and still hit mobs 100% provided your level greatly exceeds that of the mob?

I'm not sure if statless will be able to hit 100%. I'm also not going to make 140 in and out of the cash shop to test it. LOL

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Gengle - 2010-06-23

Hotshot Wrote:That's actually factored into equipping the weapon already. STR is only required for weapons after level 50+ equipment. Nice try. Rolleyes
Yes, but you have to have the dexterity to keep your strong arms steady when swinging your weapon. Nice nice try. Rolleyes

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Goals - 2010-06-23

Do existing classes get any sort of HP bonus for missing out on HP gain from the new formulas? Let me guess, no right?

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Takebacker - 2010-06-23

Goals Wrote:Do existing classes get any sort of HP bonus for missing out on HP gain from the new formulas? Let me guess, no right?

No, because if they did that nothing would be tested.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Neothisis - 2010-06-23

Gengle Wrote:Yes, but you have to have the dexterity to keep your strong arms steady when swinging your weapon. Nice nice try. Rolleyes

He's talking about Bows/Crossbows AKA that's his main stat. Nice nice nice try. Rolleyes

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Goals - 2010-06-23

It's stupid that they'll make all classes gain more HP without giving existing classes a bonus. I mean ~ 30% more is a significant amount more HP than current unwashed ranged class.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - UrBestFriend - 2010-06-23

WOOO! LOVE CALCULATION -EXP TO NEXT LVLS REDUCED BY 50% YAAA!!! or 60 o.o!

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Takebacker - 2010-06-23

Goals Wrote:It's stupid that they'll make all classes gain more HP without giving existing classes a bonus. I mean ~ 30% more is a significant amount more HP than current unwashed ranged class.

Who the hell said they won't give existing characters the bonus when it hits official? They didn't do anything to existing characters in tespia because otherwise nothing would get tested.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Goals - 2010-06-23

Takebacker Wrote:Who the hell said they won't give existing characters the bonus when it hits official? They didn't do anything to existing characters in tespia because otherwise nothing would get tested.

It'll probably be the case when it hits the official version anyway. My bad, I thought this was KMS. Forgot to read title.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Giullare - 2010-06-23

Thanks Fiel, this is really useful.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Cheesecake - 2010-06-23

So then... are there no more upcoming changes to skills for this patch?

Is everything finalaized? D:

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Takebacker - 2010-06-23

Cheesecake Wrote:So then... are there no more upcoming changes to skills for this patch?

Is everything finalaized? D:

Hell no.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Bountyan - 2010-06-23

Fiel Wrote:SKILLS:
- All jobs receive a new skill in every job. Some older unused skills were removed.

Excluding Arans? Unless they're adding something later or they get some Beginner skill I've overlooked.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Grey - 2010-06-23

Hotshot Wrote:Has HP washing become unusable? Also does that 2nd stat accuracy apply for all classes? Are they really saying archers need str to have better accuracy?

Just tested, you can still HP wash. I just put a point in HP on my slinger and got 40 HP with it, lost 16 MP when I took it out.

 Before

 After

I missed a few screen shots, but I do have more HP, less MP, and 5 more base dex between the first and last screen shots.

[1.2.320] Consolidated source of revamp - Potora - 2010-06-23

I'm loving all of these changes! The no minimum range for archers. The huge HP increase for all classes. The base crits. And omfg @ another EXP reduction. Huzzah! I think its gonna be hard training at Newts and Skeles now with the massive damage they're gonna be doing though.