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Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Stereo - 2010-06-23
Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-23
Stereo Wrote:Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).
That would narrow the gap between the classes of weapons. I wonder if slash/stab still makes a difference on damage? A small slash bonus would make them equal.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Link - 2010-06-23
Stereo Wrote:Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).
Iffy? What do you mean?
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Grey - 2010-06-24
I think noticed a slight difference between my damage range with a staff and a wand with the same matk. I'm pretty sure it was the minimum damage though. Checking it out.
Edit: Maximum damage is differs by 2.
52~206|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Staff
![[Image: maple0100j.jpg]](http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1230/maple0100j.jpg)
52~208|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Wand
![[Image: maple0101.jpg]](http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8576/maple0101.jpg)
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Stereo - 2010-06-24
0.87 staff, 0.88 wand? Strange.
@ ShiKage: just that you posted screenshots of a lot of weapons that don't say what your other atk is (I assumed it's 30 or 31).
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-24
Whoa, that's strange. Can we get some more staff screenshots?
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - 50504724 - 2010-06-24
Bishop --- INT:1084 LUK:118 damage:5231~6975
find out the Matk=180, but I don't have it's gear screenshots.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Link - 2010-06-24
Stereo Wrote:0.87 staff, 0.88 wand? Strange.
@ ShiKage: just that you posted screenshots of a lot of weapons that don't say what your other atk is (I assumed it's 30 or 31).
I didn't post any weapons that weren't equipped. I don't see how that would affect the calculations. I gave you everything I had equipped.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Grey - 2010-06-24
Some more staves:
53~212|56 Total Matk
![[Image: staff10.jpg]](http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/192/staff10.jpg)
57~227|60 Total Matk
![[Image: staff15.jpg]](http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5434/staff15.jpg)
62~246|65 Total Matk
![[Image: staff20.jpg]](http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1240/staff20.jpg)
And here are some claws:
Total Atk = Claw Attack + 5atk Pet Equip + 15atk Subis + 4 atk Blessing
36~239|35 Total Atk
x * (4*75+42) * 0.35 = 239![[Image: claw10.jpg]](http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7727/claw10.jpg)
x = 1.997
37~245|35 Total Atk
x * (4*77+42) * 0.35 = 245![[Image: claw15gold.jpg]](http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8705/claw15gold.jpg)
x = 2
37~249|36 Total Atk
x * (4*76+42) * 0.36 = 249![[Image: claw15silver.jpg]](http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/218/claw15silver.jpg)
x = 1.999
It looks like the claw multiplier is 2.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Hazzy - 2010-06-24
On the topic of claws, can you confirm whether or not Lucky Seven is based directly off of your damage range, or the special formula it currently uses?
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Grey - 2010-06-24
Hazzy Wrote:On the topic of claws, can you confirm whether or not Lucky Seven is based directly off of your damage range, or the special formula it currently uses?
I'm working on a video for this, I actually made the character as a dit, so I'm resetting double stab into L7 as we speak.
Edit: So far, it doesn't look like L7 has it's own formula, the old one anyway.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-24
50504724 Wrote:Bishop --- INT:1084 LUK:118 damage:5231~6975
find out the Matk=180, but I don't have it's gear screenshots.
That matches the staff formula perfectly if all that information is right.
Claw formula also looks legit.
Edit: The staves in iAmFear's screenshots don't match the 0.87 multiplier; they match the 0.88 multiplier. Wonder what's going on. What class is that?
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Grey - 2010-06-24
Dusk Wrote:That matches the staff formula perfectly if all that information is right.
Claw formula also looks legit.
Edit: The staves in iAmFear's screenshots don't match the 0.87 multiplier; they match the 0.88 multiplier. Wonder what's going on. What class is that?
It's a regular Adventurer Magician. I guess the other one was a fluke?
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-24
iAmFear Wrote:It's a regular Adventurer Magician. I guess the other one was a fluke?
Well, I can't think of anything that would cause the staff in the other screenshot to not match the formula. Either the formula's wrong, or there's another factor in play somewhere.
Edit: Below average weapon? o_o
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Hazzy - 2010-06-24
Is 0.01 not within the margin of error? 0.88 seems no different than 0.87 to me.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-24
Hazzy Wrote:Is 0.01 not within the margin of error? 0.88 seems no different than 0.87 to me.
We'd prefer exact formulas if possible. 0.87 can actually make a difference of a couple dozen damage points in the range at higher levels.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Grey - 2010-06-24
Dusk Wrote:Well, I can't think of anything that would cause the staff in the other screenshot to not match the formula. Either the formula's wrong, or there's another factor in play somewhere.
Edit: Below average weapon? o_o
Yeah, both of my level 10 staves are below average, I don't think that would have an effect.
I'm not really familiar with Maple math, but I think I did this right.
Damage Range: 37~249, 76 LUK, 42 DEX, 36 ATT
Max (L7 Formula): [(5*76)/100] * 36 * 1.7 = 232.56 * .9 = 209.3
Min (L7 Formula): [(2.5*76)/100] * 36 * 1.7 = 116.28 * .9 = 104.7
Max: 249 * 1.7 = 423.3 * .9 = 380.97
Min: 37 * 1.7 = 62.9 * .9 = 56.6
1.7 for L7's 170%
* .9 for the 10% reduction from Snails?
Oh, and not sure how rounding works.
And...
![[Image: maple0133.jpg]](http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5723/maple0133.jpg)
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Hazzy - 2010-06-24
SCUZE ME WHILE I CRY AT MY IDIOCY.
Finally Dex adds damage to Lucky Seven. Feels good man.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Fiel - 2010-06-24
Congratulations. L7 no longer has its own formula. It works just like all other skills.
I'm loving how this is simplifying damage calculations a lot.
Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations - Dusk - 2010-06-24
iAmFear Wrote:I think noticed a slight difference between my damage range with a staff and a wand with the same matk. I'm pretty sure it was the minimum damage though. Checking it out.
Edit: Maximum damage is differs by 2.
52~206|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Staff
52~208|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Wand
This post is still a mindpineapple.
What causes the 0.87 multiplier to be used?
Or maybe the staff formula is entirely different. More screenshots with the 25 magic level 10 staff please?