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Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Bribery - 2010-04-27
Meh, I'm happy with my +1 All/1 Atk glasses. All I spent on them was 25m for a cheap 80%, which failed xD. The rest are from the event scrolls. I wish Nexon kept the scrolls 100% but these glasses are still better than my old ones.
The best way I can think of getting godly glasses is to continue making level 30 Evans and attempting to pass a 50% on the first slot. Then Chaos it and hope for good results.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - MissingLink - 2010-04-27
I wonder if Nexon read all the ones here and on SW going 'Gonna level 16 Evans and make 4 pairs of +7 att glasses' and thought 'Oh yeah? We'll just see about that.' and changed the scrolls to 60% and 30%.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - IllegallySane - 2010-04-27
Lost my Mind. Wrote:Needing to actually use your own time and luck to gain several more w.att instead of being able to just buy it? Blashemy!
Far as i'm concerned Nexon did a decent job of this event.
You can't sell the glasses to anyone. Aran rings are permanent, and is pretty much a 100% chance to get a 3 attack/3 stat ring. Does that make the ring bad because it's too easy to get a small boost in power? No, because you can only use it on that account. Same thing with Evan glasses, except they expect you to have the luck of the gods or to pay money for still crappy scrolls for a CHANCE to make something even remotely comparable to an Aran ring. I can't believe why you'd think it's a good idea for Nexon to make an event where you can't just get 2 attack/2 stat UNTRADEABLE glasses by hard work of getting 1 level 80 Evan. Oh no! You must pay hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of mesos to get another Aran ring. Well fcuk that, I'd rather focus back on my Aran because not everyone has so much time on their hands they can make over a dozen level 80 Evans in one month for the slim hope of getting an Aran ring stats.
What does that say to people who barely have the time to get an 80 Evan even once during this short event and those who have too much time on their hands? That you need to pay money if you want to have what the rich have. The Aran ring event is more fair because everyone has a shot at a 3 stat/3 attack ring which gives ample time for even the most time constrained player to get an Aran to 70. Getting an Evan to 80 in one month only for a chance to fail every scroll? That's a terrible event. If I wanted to rely on chance to get a godly item, the Agent event where is how it's done right. Not the Witch belt event, not this, but the Agent event.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - sicnarf - 2010-04-27
If you don't think the risk is worth it, don't make one.
I never made an Evan knowing how much work it would take for a relatively crappy reward.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Hotshot - 2010-04-27
I also have fail chaosing luck, but my glasses were my best chaos attempt yet. First 50 passed (!), chaos failed, chaos passed and added no atk/matk, another chaos failed, then a chaos passed and added 2atk/matk (best gain from a chaos scroll out of like 40 I used for atk purposes), then hammered and both chaoses failed. So that leaves me with 3 atk glasses, which are kind of lame compared to some people's, but definitely beat nothing. I doubt I'm going to bother myself trying to make better ones, I have more important things to spend my nonexistant mesos on.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Sarah - 2010-04-27
Having att glasses is not a requirement to play the game. If you're unwilling to put in the effort then you certainly don't deserve them, and even if you do put in the effort, it's a risk. All good things come with a risk. People these days want everything handed to them, it's ridiculous. I can't sympathize with anyone here except those who work hard and fail the scrolling, and even then it's sort of OH WELL because you'll be no worse off than if you hadn't done anything at all.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Takebacker - 2010-04-27
Might not be a requirement but the fact is that the event was supposed to benefit everyone, period. This event was clearly designed to pump the "extra" chaoses out of the game and raise prices to where they were before, thus favoring the rich.
FFS, chaoses would have risen to normal price eventually anyway. There was absolutely no reason to change it, especially since it means the patch got delayed while they changed the entire thing last minute.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Sarah - 2010-04-27
Takebacker Wrote:Might not be a requirement but the fact is that the event was supposed to benefit everyone, period. This event was clearly designed to pump the "extra" chaoses out of the game and raise prices to where they were before, thus favoring the rich.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It shouldn't benefit everyone, that's ridiculous. It should be accessible to everyone and the greater benefits should be available to those who work the hardest. The benefits can be both guaranteed or luck based, but everyone has the same chances (though, those with money have better chances thanks to gach scrolls). Regardless, this event is completely fair as it is, and I say that having failed 2 out of my 3 glasses scrolls so far.
And I think you're reading way too much into what you think Nexon's intentions were. There's nothing clear about them wanting people to use Chaos Scrolls on the glasses. Nexon really doesn't care about the economy, they would much prefer people be gaching for those 50/80 scrolls than using the pre-existing chaos scrolls.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - LegendGospel - 2010-04-27
In this case, those who "work the hardest" would be those that have multiple accounts to get CPQ free wins, and then a Bishop or Aran (tempest) to leech, making level 100 Evans over and over to get 7att glasses. Yes, it's hard work... but that doesn't mean it isn't a retarded system.
I can get CPQ free wins 100%, and got a spare Bishop mule and a friend that can tempest leech me, but would I have bothered to make multiple level 100 Evans? Nay. It sounds even more retarded than when people tried to get 3 Lilin Rings by re-making multiple Arans to level 30, 50 and 70. Probably Nexon America saw the pattern and decided not to let people do this with Dragon Glasses.
I'm actually sort of glad that I don't have to waste a whole month of MS gameplay in remaking Evans just to get 7 att glasses "BUT YOU WOULND'T NEED TO DO IT BEACUS NO ONE IS MAKING YOU! LOL!", yeah, at the price of being left behind of everyone. That's just like saying that you don't need to scroll your equips, you can just play with clean equips, how would you feel about that? Oh, I see, you do wear scrolled equips. Piss off then.
If anyone is still getting 12 att Dragon Glasses, I'm happy for them, they deserve it for their efforts. They made att Dragon Glasses something really special and unique, not just a bandwagon item that you have to waste your life on if you don't wanna be left behind.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Sarah - 2010-04-27
LegendGospel Wrote:I'm actually sort of glad that I don't have to waste a whole month of MS gameplay in remaking Evans just to get 7 att glasses "BUT YOU WOULND'T NEED TO DO IT BEACUS NO ONE IS MAKING YOU! LOL!", yeah, at the price of being left behind of everyone. That's just like saying that you don't need to scroll your equips, you can just play with clean equips, how would you feel about that? Oh, I see, you do wear scrolled equips. Piss off then.
You're barking up the wrong tree. I have mostly clean equips on all of my characters and any scrolling I've done has come from quests or hard earned mesos, which is very little. I don't feel left behind at all, as I've said a million times before. I don't have the best equips (or even close) but I'm incredibly comfortable with my damage on all of my characters.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - LegendGospel - 2010-04-27
Barking at you? I'm talking about situations, not about persons. o_o
The only thing I quoted from you was precisely put in quotes, then I stopped referring to you, as paragraphs even separate ideas. `-`
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Arigomi - 2010-04-27
Let's be honest here. This event cannot benefit everyone because it is only available for a set period of time. If you miss the opportunity, you have to get over it. I missed the event that gave Aran characters the chance to get the ridiculously powerful Combo King medal. That is just how events work.
Nexon had a lot of reasons to change the way the Evan event played out in GMS.
The Evan event used in KMS would cause serious problems in GMS. PSoK would not be an obstacle against hackers and gold farmers from creating multiple accounts to abuse the event. Making the Dragon Glasses only account tradeable prevents this. To offset the loss of purchases of PSoK, the success rate of the scrolls were changed so that people would encouraged to get the better scrolls that were added to gacha. As a result, Nexon stumbled across a more profitable method that didn't encourage a wave of hackers and gold farmers.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Kalovale - 2010-04-27
Arigomi Wrote:The Evan event used in KMS would cause serious problems in GMS. PSoK would not be an obstacle against hackers and gold farmers from creating multiple accounts to abuse the event. Making the Dragon Glasses only account tradeable prevents this. To offset the loss of purchases of PSoK, the success rate of the scrolls were changed so that people would encouraged to get the better scrolls that were added to gacha. As a result, Nexon stumbled across a more profitable method that didn't encourage a wave of hackers and gold farmers.
Somehow none of these reasons makes any sense to me. Here's my take:
- Promoting PSoK sale: Since PSoK will only be used on decent glasses, they will have to make those as available as possible -> 100% scrolls.
- Promoting Gacha sale: fucking everyone in the ass with account-restriction: rarity++; introducing rare but OH SO GODLY 50% scrolls in Gacha, combining with Chaos Scroll's malicious tendency => everyone helplessly coughing up mesos -> inflation -> massive gaching.
Introducing PSoK would not net much profit for them for the sole reason that no one would have any reason to PSoK any glasses with less than, say, 3atk.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Goals - 2010-04-27
Arigomi Wrote:Let's be honest here. This event cannot benefit everyone because it is only available for a set period of time. If you miss the opportunity, you have to get over it. I missed the event that gave Aran characters the chance to get the ridiculously powerful Combo King medal. That is just how events work.
Nexon had a lot of reasons to change the way the Evan event played out in GMS.
The Evan event used in KMS would cause serious problems in GMS. PSoK would not be an obstacle against hackers and gold farmers from creating multiple accounts to abuse the event. Making the Dragon Glasses only account tradeable prevents this. To offset the loss of purchases of PSoK, the success rate of the scrolls were changed so that people would encouraged to get the better scrolls that were added to gacha. As a result, Nexon stumbled across a more profitable method that didn't encourage a wave of hackers and gold farmers.
Losses from PSOK? They can just keep the scrolls at 30%/60%. I mean actually make the glasses tradeable. I wouldn't mind if Nexon prices PSOK at like 15k or something. Milk us out of some money w/e.
I think even 2 atk glasses are worth selling. That's equivilant to 8 - 10 stats eye acc. that was worth like 1b before the event.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Will - 2010-04-27
God.
I hate damage whores.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - Goals - 2010-04-28
Will Wrote:God.
I hate damage whores.
What's wrong with wanting to maximize your own character's potential? I like your guide to EV training in Pokemon. Isn't that kinda the same thing as "DAMAGE WHORING" on Maple? I do understand your Pokemon competitive scene (not bashing it - I enjoy Pokemon games too); I can assure you it's as competitive as STAT WHORING on Maple. You have no right to judge since you have one of those guides to "STAT WHORE" on Pokemon.
Sarah Wrote:Having att glasses is not a requirement to play the game. If you're unwilling to put in the effort then you certainly don't deserve them, and even if you do put in the effort, it's a risk. All good things come with a risk. People these days want everything handed to them, it's ridiculous. I can't sympathize with anyone here except those who work hard and fail the scrolling, and even then it's sort of OH WELL because you'll be no worse off than if you hadn't done anything at all.
Not really HANDED to us btw. We still have to pay mesos to get our items. Many merchants don't buy mesos/NX either so they work for their riches too. How is the tradability of an item the same as being given it? In case you haven't noticed, things aren't free in this game. Funds have to come from somewhere to buy items.
Difficulty in Scrolling Dragon Glasses - dilbert - 2010-04-28
itt sarah continues making a stupid plum out of herself and sicnarf is a tool