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Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-22
not 200k yet
![[Image: MapleStory2008-08-1714-28-40-48.jpg]](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/carlos90_photos/MapleStory2008-08-1714-28-40-48.jpg)
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Chameleonic - 2008-08-22
What do you mean by, not 200k yet?
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-22
i mean i cant hit 200k without an apple,yet.
maxi seen is that 168k
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Technolink - 2008-08-22
*fun fact*
You need 9155 + (monster's wdef)/2 max damage to break the 200k limit on the 6th monster.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Kevvl - 2008-08-22
I believe if they made the limit 250k, it'd never be reached outside of deliberately TRYING to reach it (Perfect scrolled gear + apple + Mob of Snails)
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-22
you mean 9.1k range?
![[Image: MapleStory2008-08-2122-36-32-93.jpg]](http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/carlos90_photos/MapleStory2008-08-2122-36-32-93.jpg)
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Hazzy - 2008-08-22
Russt Wrote:Indeed.
I believe Pierce damage is capped at around 248k, as in if they trashed the DC cap altogether it would never hit any more than that on the last monster with the highest possible damage range.
Just throwing that out there.
o_0
Why 248k?
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Technolink - 2008-08-22
XBish Wrote:you mean 9.1k range?
264 watk. Whaaaaat xD. I know you have some atk all the way to the left, is that an apple? 264 Just seems a tad bit... not plausible.
But yes, 9155+wdef/2 will break the limit, but only when that last monster gets your very very max, so yes, your 10212 should be breaking it after wdef is factored in.
With the range in that screenshot against High Dark Stars, you have a ~38% chance to deal 200k+ on the last star.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Russt - 2008-08-22
Hazzy Wrote:o_099999 on the first monster, times the amplifier^5. I think I used 1.2x for the amplifier, just to be safe.
Why 248k?
Yup, straight from Google calc:
99 999 * (1.2^5) = 248 829.512
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Stereo - 2008-08-25
Technolink Wrote:264 watk. Whaaaaat xD. I know you have some atk all the way to the left, is that an apple? 264 Just seems a tad bit... not plausible.
Considering 7 atk capes, 5+ atk shoes, that's possible on a 20 atk glove and a 132 atk Crossbow. With a Dragon Shiner it's possible to hit 143 atk in a perfect case, so it's just extremely above average gear, not impossible.
Haven't seen anything above 8 atk cape + 7 atk shoes but I guess it's possible they exist now, along with a good BWG those would get up to 279 w.atk on a Marksman using Apples, which would be just touching 12k range at level 200. Not sure if it would be possible since the 1st hit would go over 100k with that, but otherwise that range would give around 262000 on the 6th target.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - wobbufet - 2008-08-25
Stereo Wrote:Considering 7 atk capes, 5+ atk shoes, that's possible on a 20 atk glove and a 132 atk Crossbow. With a Dragon Shiner it's possible to hit 143 atk in a perfect case, so it's just extremely above average gear, not impossible.
Haven't seen anything above 8 atk cape + 7 atk shoes but I guess it's possible they exist now, along with a good BWG those would get up to 279 w.atk on a Marksman using Apples, which would be just touching 12k range at level 200. Not sure if it would be possible since the 1st hit would go over 100k with that, but otherwise that range would give around 262000 on the 6th target.
Don't forget echo of hero
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Dusk - 2008-08-25
Stereo Wrote:Considering 7 atk capes, 5+ atk shoes, that's possible on a 20 atk glove and a 132 atk Crossbow. With a Dragon Shiner it's possible to hit 143 atk in a perfect case, so it's just extremely above average gear, not impossible.Christ, his gear is nowhere near that godly. It's Marksman Boost + Echo of Hero making his W. Att so high.
Haven't seen anything above 8 atk cape + 7 atk shoes but I guess it's possible they exist now, along with a good BWG those would get up to 279 w.atk on a Marksman using Apples, which would be just touching 12k range at level 200. Not sure if it would be possible since the 1st hit would go over 100k with that, but otherwise that range would give around 262000 on the 6th target.
Problem is, I can't figure out how much W. Att he has....closest I can get is 144 -> 254 with Apple
(8332~10218)
I'm missing something.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - TugboatWilly - 2008-08-25
he already posted his equips: http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpost.php?p=50725&postcount=69
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-25
i wish i had that stuff stereo says
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Technolink - 2008-08-25
How much is echo? It seems your using a oynx.
And Sap, who says it has to be 99k, we know from IA that the hits aren't dependent on the first one. So its more like 8.5*1.18^5 + 240 = 2184.59% So to hit 250,000 you need a max damage of 11443. I don't see where the 99k comes into play
Even if they put 99k*1.18^5 is 228ishk (we know its 1.1 or 1.18. We should research that >_>)
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Stereo - 2008-08-25
Yeah, I forgot about Marksman Boost (10 atk if it's maxed, which it looks like it is) and Hero's Echo. :\ I guess Bowmen end up with quite a bit of w.atk.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Technolink - 2008-08-25
Yea, that's definately an oynx there now that I look at it closer.
![[Image: 12pw1.gif]](http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6751/12pw1.gif)
lol, Xbish, if you need an onyx apple to break the limit, I think we're all pretty fine. How many times to you full charge Peirce with a mob of 6 and onyx apple again?
Although it should be raised.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-25
i didnt expect that ss to draw so muck attention. yes i have apple and echo on. my equips are public and by no means the best around. there are much better equiped marksmen around and i think that we should be able to use an apple or a demon elixer and not dc like evryone else. make the cap 300k or 33mill if nexon going to leave bf as a non boss monster so i can snipe it.
anyways there is a way to get to 250k right? so that should not be the cap, thats all i am saying.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Technolink - 2008-08-25
XBish Wrote:i didnt expect that ss to draw so muck attention. yes i have apple and echo on. my equips are public and by no means the best around. there are much better equiped marksmen around and i think that we should be able to use an apple or a demon elixer and not dc like evryone else. make the cap 300k or 33mill if nexon going to leave bf as a non boss monster so i can snipe it.
anyways there is a way to get to 250k right? so that should not be the cap, thats all i am saying.
We were all saying that because we couldn't see the apple, so we thought you had 250+ attack xD! (or w/e)
Either way, yes, the cap needs to be raised, but this is far better then 100k at least. We can agree this is at least livable?
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-08-26
yes the cap is decent now, i can use my pierce without fear as long a si am not appled. and true i dont really use pierce much at HT. i could use it at zakum to kill summons when zakum guards, but then id dc.
btw i didnt take a ss but i did 178k with a 25 attack pot. >_> getting kinda close lol.