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Pink Bean DPS - Cyanne - 2009-05-26
Don't forget about massive stunning and other status effects, lol. Oh and everyone's gonna die from damage reflect anyways.
Pink Bean DPS - Fiel - 2009-05-26
Dusk Wrote:You don't need 12k HP to survive it. You need 8.1k, same as HT. However, you do need to keep PB's Genesis attack from hitting ranged attackers, which can only be accomplished by forcing him to face away for the entire duration of the battle. Pretty difficult, especially since he's mobile and does 23k touch damage. Essentially you'll need to have people KBing him left, then letting him walk right a bit - for the entire duration of the fight - while a pomegranatestorm of things are flying across the screen and everyone is lagging.
PB's speed is -50. That's the same speed as a Blue Snail. So "mobile" isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems. Plus he's small enough that NLs could easily FJ over him and Bishes could tele through him.
Pink Bean DPS - Kabanaw - 2009-05-26
The way I see it, AMs aren't too badly out damaged on the final fight. An unappled NL using SE will do approx. the same of an AM. When you add in apples, NLs do significantly more, but meh.
I think the best warriors damage wise are Paladins. Since they can use lightning charge and avoid the neutral resistance, they lose 12% of their total damage by switching charges instead of half of it.
Pink Bean DPS - Dusk - 2009-05-26
Fiel Wrote:PB's speed is -50. That's the same speed as a Blue Snail. So "mobile" isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems. Plus he's small enough that NLs could easily FJ over him and Bishes could tele through him.
The problem is more for other melee classes and Warriors that can't take touch damage, since they need to be able to keep him in place. If PB is allowed to reach the right side of the map, the attackers on the right will have to move to the left, and PB will be facing left. Bye bye ranged classes.
Pink Bean DPS - Jeffoface - 2009-05-26
Fiel Wrote:Huigin (Left Hawk) is Ice weak and Fire Resist
Munin (Right Hawk) is Ice Resist and Fire weak
Mini-bean is Fire and Ice weak
PB is strong to Holy, Ice, Fire and Neutral
neutral = poison?
Pink Bean DPS - Kabanaw - 2009-05-26
Jeffoface Wrote:neutral = poison?
Lolno. Neutral= Everything that doesn't have an element. In other words, 9/12 classes have their damage cut in half by PB.
Pink Bean DPS - Cavalier - 2009-05-26
Fiel Wrote:PB's speed is -50. That's the same speed as a Blue Snail. So "mobile" isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems. Plus he's small enough that NLs could easily FJ over him and Bishes could tele through him.
What are the odds of hermits hopping around to avoid the genesis attack while staying out of the range of his other attack?
Pink Bean DPS - ItzTaylor - 2009-05-26
KajitiSouls Wrote:Did you even do calculations...? I'm having serious doubts about even GMS being able to top this thing if there's an hour time limit.
No obviously we can't beat it. KMS even has a hard time, don't they? :f6:
Pink Bean DPS - Kabanaw - 2009-05-26
PB has been out for what, nearly a year in KMS and they have yet to beat it (Without hacks)?
If KMS can't beat it, even with Onyx Apples I don't think we'll be able to very easily.
Pink Bean DPS - iFrancisco - 2009-05-26
KatanaKiwi Wrote:that said mostly lvl 180+ attackers will be invited.
Also, and im not sure of this, maybe its offtopic but, why are shadowers so much left out on pink been in kms, in my server there is a lvl 189 shadower who can bigfoot almost as fast as my 194 hero. not using me but solely mellee skills. shadowers would be perfect for pink been cause with a bit of hp wash and hb they could also survive her hits. however shadowers with their high avoid and fake skill can avoid a lot of her attacks influencing their dps advantage at pink been a lot?
Lol, I think we know that I am one of the exceptions in GMS for Shadowers due to my level/gear. Most Shadowers will not be invited largely because their gear is not good or they are not 18x (If my count is right, there are only 12 180+ Shads in GMS), being on the lower end up the DPS chart surely doesn't help.
Dusk Wrote:The problem is more for other melee classes and Warriors that can't take touch damage, since they need to be able to keep him in place. If PB is allowed to reach the right side of the map, the attackers on the right will have to move to the left, and PB will be facing left. Bye bye ranged classes.
This is what I am most worried about. Because I started HP washing so late, I will only have roughly 6k HP at 200, which means I would be able to take slightly more than a 19k hit with MG/HB on, but I am not sure if that is enough. Anyone know what the highest touch damage is at Pink Been (on any part, just the highest in the whole battle)?
Pink Bean DPS - KajitiSouls - 2009-05-26
ItzTaylor Wrote:No obviously we can't beat it. KMS even has a hard time, don't they? :f6:
KMS didn't have Onyx Apples >_>
But KMS does have a nice edge over us: first-hand experience.
That will change soon xD
iFrancisco Wrote:This is what I am most worried about. Because I started HP washing so late, I will only have roughly 6k HP at 200, which means I would be able to take slightly more than a 19k hit with MG/HB on, but I am not sure if that is enough. Anyone know what the highest touch damage is at Pink Been (on any part, just the highest in the whole battle)?
Roughly 24k, possibly higher.
Pink Bean DPS - Icedfire - 2009-05-26
Dusk Wrote:You don't need 12k HP to survive it. You need 8.1k, same as HT. However, you do need to keep PB's Genesis attack from hitting ranged attackers, which can only be accomplished by forcing him to face away for the entire duration of the battle. Pretty difficult, especially since he's mobile and does 23k touch damage. Essentially you'll need to have people KBing him left, then letting him walk right a bit - for the entire duration of the fight - while a pomegranatestorm of things are flying across the screen and everyone is lagging.
12k hp is a "plan for the worst, hope for the best" kind of thing.
Pink Bean DPS - Jeffoface - 2009-05-27
Kabanaw Wrote:Lolno. Neutral= Everything that doesn't have an element. In other words, 9/12 classes have their damage cut in half by PB.
L>building nearby to jump off
Pink Bean DPS - LightningZLaser - 2009-05-27
Well what im thinking of is that we can get 5 drks, 25 shadowers, all using apples, spamming boomerang step. It will be highly possible. But the problem is the need to get 180 apples
Pink Bean DPS - FrozNlite - 2009-05-27
Atruya Wrote:So only the summons get cut in damage, not the AM him/herself. Meh, teams are going to have to take as much appled high dps classes with them, so AMs probably arent going to be there very often.
More like, ArchMages won't EVER see a PB battle unless they're Lv. 200 Echo Mules that don't die. Oh, and would only be taken roughly 6 months after the first PB death in the server.
In other words, don't expect to PB on an AM, ever.
[SIZE="1"]GOGO MAGES MAKE THOSE NLS AND BMS![/SIZE]
Fiel Wrote:PB's speed is -50. That's the same speed as a Blue Snail. So "mobile" isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems. Plus he's small enough that NLs could easily FJ over him and Bishes could tele through him.
Wonderful, -50 speed. However, with a 140k KB that won't be hit enough to really STOP its mobility, a Blue-Snail-speed Pink Been is still an unstoppable force as it meanders through the map, albeit slowly. Here's to hoping the thing doesn't have wicked touch damage.
Pink Bean DPS - MasPan - 2009-05-27
FrozNlite Wrote:More like, ArchMages won't EVER see a PB battle unless they're Lv. 200 Echo Mules that don't die. Oh, and would only be taken roughly 6 months after the first PB death in the server.
In other words, don't expect to PB on an AM, ever.
[SIZE="1"]GOGO MAGES MAKE THOSE NLS AND BMS![/SIZE]
Wonderful, -50 speed. However, with a 140k KB that won't be hit enough to really STOP its mobility, a Blue-Snail-speed Pink Been is still an unstoppable force as it meanders through the map, albeit slowly. Here's to hoping the thing doesn't have wicked touch damage.
Red Nirg strategy applies here - without anyone kb'ing it, it'll be easy for Warriors to use Rush and actually have it work. Rush only fails when an enemy is doing a spell animation (sometimes), is in the KB animation (regardless of why), or is already against a wall. He shouldn't be able to move more than 2 feet without being rushed right back.
Pink Bean DPS - cleric1213 - 2009-05-27
remember though...
it MAY BE HARDER THAN IT SEEMS
Pink Bean DPS - Fiel - 2009-05-27
Remember, all it takes is the right strategy and the PB fight then becomes just another block of HP to take down. The same thing happened to HT.
Pink Bean DPS - KajitiSouls - 2009-05-27
Fiel Wrote:Remember, all it takes is the right strategy and the PB fight then becomes just another block of HP to take down. The same thing happened to HT.
I'm thinking Warriors and DrKs on steroids. Though if it truly is a race against the clock, then it would require a dash of daring, just short of suicide xD
Pink Bean DPS - ItzTaylor - 2009-05-27
Fiel Wrote:Remember, all it takes is the right strategy and the PB fight then becomes just another block of HP to take down. The same thing happened to HT.
I remember people thinking HT was going to be impossible. Then that moved to extremely hard. Then it came out in GMS and we beat it easily.
