KajitiSouls Wrote:On a related note, I think Vayne may be a bit OP if played correctly. @Dark Link, I did 1163 physical damage on a non ult Tumble crit with IE against a bot. That's not including Silver Bolts.

KajitiSouls Wrote:As if Annie or LeBlanc nuking you with her full spell cycle at level 6 with a Sorcerer's Shoes doesn't compare or something.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Constrained by mana and cooldowns.

 A well fed, beautiful Twitch

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Constrained by mana and cooldowns.

WillDaSnail Wrote:Though he did mention about how good the Ashe was (she was laning against him mid)

KajitiSouls Wrote:So? With those two, all it takes is one instance, and you're dead. Only way that happens with Vayne is if you're behind in levels and she's horribly fed. Granted, she has more opportunities to do it, but she's also got a shorter range and much less utility than the other two.

The problem you're probably encountering with Vayne is that her skillset rewards her aggression. She gets bonus MS for chasing (4x with ult active), and her Tumble effective CD is 3-4 times as long if she fails to hit anything with the proc (aka running away).



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Eddikins Wrote:Another successful Eve game last night, 5/1/10.

Vayne with Oracles and Ult being used = oh dear god somebody help me

I also got that Cloak and Dagger item, but it didnt really seem worth it. The only new tenacity item ive liked is the Pendant thingy, and thats only when ive been playing Sona, since i can upgrade 1 of my Philo stones to it. On the subject of Sona, i may start learning Zilean, because all my Sona games i just feel my only use is a heal bot, and i die very easily.. Its such a shame too because i really love Sona.

Darkmaniak Wrote:Sona? Heal bot? you're doing it wrong, sona is a great support but is nothing near a heal bot, you can poke quite hard with q, stun timing with ult is VERY important on a team fight, and healing is just a nice plus on her, the speed to chase and escape is very useful too, also learn to use power cord, using an 'E' power cord to slow a chaser can save lifes, and poking with q chord is extremely useful early game.

Eddikins Wrote:this kind of hurts cos i practised Sona for ages :'(
What i said in the earlier post only really goes for games where we are doing bad. Ive had games we were losing where ive managed to get deathcap and such, but cant do anything to help win. I always get picked off really easily, but then maybe im building her wrong (2 philo stones, cd boots, RoA -game ends-)

I have had successful games, where my ult has helped get aces, and ive actually contributed very well, its just since brand was implimented i seem to get vaporised on Sona and then feel like i bring nothing to help my team push.. (1 game i had a 2v1 against a brand and he would manage to pillar stun ult me constantly for kills.. probably my fault but yeah..)


In other news, Im very interested to see how the impending Eve rework will change her playstyle. Im used to what she has now (Just got out of another successful game) and i hope she can provide teams well after her rework and not be someone thats deemed useless or something.