Dark Link Wrote:Shen's nerfs this patch made him far less viable now. He's rarely banned / picked in high ELO ranks anymore. He's gone down from being a top ban / pick to being a 4th / 5th pick.

KajitiSouls Wrote:A LoLer gets burned by Pendragon_. BURNNNNNNNEEDDDD!!!

KajitiSouls Wrote:I would like to know how you arrived at that conclusion.

 Rammus go wild!

Connor Wrote:Teaching my friend how to play so I made a smurf, and went Malz in a bot game.
I ended up being really fed and unstoppable and by the time we were in the enemy base and all the bots are running everywhere Sion goes "would be nice to get a pineappleing kill Malz" followed by Rumble saying "stop ksing you're doing it on purpose".
Tried to explain to them I can't really help it when it's a team fight but oh no I get called all sorts of names and finally they stay at base saying "Let the papayagot die" even though I didn't and finished the game lol...

After the game was over Sion and Rumble decide what I did was report worthy. Don't know what they can even report me under, and then Sion says "You're supposed to work with your team it's part of the Summoner's Code" He then says he was trying out a build and wanted to be able to test it. I told him make a custom game if he wants to control everything and he says "You need friends for that, jackass."

So. Stupid. My apologies for getting too many kills. 29/0/15 -_-

In other news, I want too many champions and have no IP. sadface

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Riot post that says Irelia's more OP than Vayne. Irelia has less burst than Vayne and is quite balanced (at least to us) because of that. Vayne hits you twice, tumbles, and with a Trinity Force that's a fair amount of your HP.

Connor Wrote:"stop ksing you're doing it on purpose".

Connor Wrote:"stop ksing"

Connor Wrote:"ksing"

WillDaSnail Wrote:

 Rammus go wild!

Dark Link Wrote:Yo, bro. You've got some new updates available.

dante9898 Wrote:They say that because Irelia can do a balanced amount of Physical,Magical and true damage. So they think its more annoying to stack Armor, Magic Resistance or Hp to counter her.

With Vayne you only need to stack Armor and avoid her 3hit as much as possible, maybe Reducing her ASP to complement or having dodge.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:None of Irelia's damage is based off % HP, so getting something like a Banshee's really helps. There isn't an item that shuts down % HP true damage.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:None of Irelia's damage is based off % HP, so getting something like a Banshee's really helps. There isn't an item that shuts down % HP true damage.

Phoenix Wright Wrote:You have to have an absurd amount of HP for Vayne's true damage to outdo Irelia's over time.

EDIT: Works out to just over 2.8k.

EDIT2: I wasn't aware bolts also dealt flat true damage. O.o Wow. ./recalculating

dante9898 Wrote:So tell me who would win in a 1vs2 or 1vs3 situation, vayne or Irelia?

If you go 1vs1 against any of them unless you are well feeded and are NOT a tank you deserve to be killed. Vayne seems to be designed to be a Tank Assassin but like they also said in that post "They made vayne Strengths too Strong but her Weaknesses too Weak", Im talking from experience, when vayne have some kills on her and start building ASP she is unstopable but to balance that she is EXTREMELY easy to be shut down on 1vs2 and even 1vs1 situations (Early and Mid game, Heck even late game if vayne isn't feeded and/or havent bought any Armor item to counter).

And like i have told before, maybe you can't counter her %true damage but you can counter her damage from AA with Armor since shes pure AD and trying to NOT engage her alone and avoid getting the 3hit.

In terms of Survival Irelia wins over vayne by a mile and in terms of Damage Vayne wins but Irelia can still pull good numbers with her 3 sources of damage (Maybe even better at times).

Quote:>I know she is an assassin, but i can't do **** if i'm engaged in combat and lose 3/4 on my hp on 1 ability, seriously, she snaps like a twig.

>That's the idea behind her. She does a lot of burst and she dies really quickly. If people would stop running away from her (as she is a really good chaser) and simply chased her (she's poor at running away) this whole "Vayne is OP" thing would fade in a few hours.

Phoenix Wright Wrote:You have to have an absurd amount of HP for Vayne's true damage to outdo Irelia's over time.

EDIT: Works out to just over 2.8k.

EDIT2: I wasn't aware bolts also dealt flat true damage. O.o Wow. ./recalculating

Vayne starts beating Irelia just short of 1,950 HP, as far as the true damage is concerned. Irelia has a lot of advantages over Vayne, though;

- 3 sources of damage that are equally difficult to itemize against
- a low CD heal (her ult) - and the heal is based off unmitigated damage
- Irelia has natural CC reduction and is quite beefy
- Irelia's CC is more reliable
- Vayne has to stick to the same target or else she loses the bolt stacks

Connor Wrote:All this talk of Vayne makes me want to try her but I'm afraid I'll suck with her and all the IP will go to waste :/.

dante9898 Wrote:Don't, You either are great with her and Steamroll till the Mass QQ (which is just QQing for QQing in my opinion) reach the Reds ears and nerf her to oblivion or Just plain suck with her (Like me) and QQ about wasted IP..

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Riot post that says Irelia's more OP than Vayne. Irelia has less burst than Vayne and is quite balanced (at least to us) because of that. Vayne hits you twice, tumbles, and with a Trinity Force that's a fair amount of your HP.