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[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Stereo - 2011-04-15
Viaje Wrote:Why?
I enjoyed my Bishop just fine before. I'm all for any class that doesn't require massive amounts of funding to approach "fun".
Primarily so a level 80 HS/Door mule isn't equally welcome to a party as a level 15x...
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Link - 2011-04-15
Abysseon Wrote:Pic of golems at new LHC:
-picture of a penis-
It's just like a normal training map now.
The I/L 1-hits the golems.
I can't really make out anything too well... But it looks like they give 10k EXP each? @_@ And the person is in a party, it seems, so how much EXP do they give each regularly now?
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Dark Zero - 2011-04-16
iAmFear Wrote:Rofl at PAP XD XDBonus 8th Anniversary Pic
![[Image: maple0188.jpg]](http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5398/maple0188.jpg)
and the girls are really pretty with that costume
Lilin is really cute in that pic
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Abysseon - 2011-04-16
ShiKage Wrote:I can't really make out anything too well... But it looks like they give 10k EXP each? @_@ And the person is in a party, it seems, so how much EXP do they give each regularly now?
Quick vid of training (6seconds -_-):
[video=youtube;ACNvmbA4V6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACNvmbA4V6M[/video]
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - IllegallySane - 2011-04-16
Abysseon Wrote:Quick vid of training (6seconds -_-):
[video=youtube;ACNvmbA4V6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACNvmbA4V6M[/video]
Private video, can't see it. Halp?
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-16
IllegallySane Wrote:Private video, can't see it. Halp?
same here.
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Abysseon - 2011-04-16
IllegallySane Wrote:Private video, can't see it. Halp?
Thought it was unlisted.
*fixed*
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - PirateIzzy - 2011-04-16
[video=youtube;IF9CudJO0l0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF9CudJO0l0[/video]
Video of ToT monster park.
Dodo seems to be even more of a seduce hoar than Lyka.
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Haseo - 2011-04-16
Wait, when did Dodo get seduce?
-facepalms-
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - PirateIzzy - 2011-04-16
Haseo Wrote:Wait, when did Dodo get seduce?
-facepalms-
It's just for monster park (and Cygnus Knight skill quest).
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Dusk - 2011-04-16
Viaje Wrote:Why?Do you not see anything wrong with that statement? MMOs are built upon gear upgrades. If you're not interested in gearing up your characters, that kind of indicates a failure in game design. Let me guess why you're not interested in upgrading your gear. Because it isn't fun. Because gear upgrades in Maple aren't about taking down bosses with a group, they're either about dicking around in the Free Market all the time or spending a couple thousand dollars in real life, and then throwing all your money at one item, hoping for that 0.0056% chance it doesn't blow up.
I enjoyed my Bishop just fine before. I'm all for any class that doesn't require massive amounts of funding to approach "fun".
Hell, my favorite part of my Battle Mage wasn't that I could quickly kill monsters, but that I was using multiple skills every minute.
Quote:Acknowledging that Nexon probably won't fix the issues in its game is entirely different from acting like the problems cannot be fixed.
Seeing how many people were eager to drop their ideas for revamping each individual Adventurer branch, it's clear that the members of this forum aren't entirely against dreaming.
Sorry, I'm a realist.
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - SwordStaker - 2011-04-16
PirateIzzy Wrote:[video=youtube;IF9CudJO0l0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF9CudJO0l0[/video]That bishop got a good amount of exp for not killing or barely touching those. Maybe monster park wont be bad after all.
Video of ToT monster park.
Dodo seems to be even more of a seduce hoar than Lyka.
Abysseon Wrote:-video-Looks really mobby. Doesn't look like its a bad training spot AT ALL
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Shidoshi - 2011-04-16
SwordStaker Wrote:That bishop got a good amount of exp for not killing or barely touching those. Maybe monster park wont be bad after all.
Looks really mobby. Doesn't look like its a bad training spot AT ALL
The point is that monsters lost their property of taking very long to kill which was another thing that made LHC unique.
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - LegendGospel - 2011-04-16
I don't get the reason of making Monster Park...
I mean, sure it is a great concept, a party play area with high HP monsters that grant bonus EXP to 6-member parties... basically an instanced LHC with different areas... but...
Why not make these party play areas take place in the ACTUAL areas of the game, not by clicking an NPC from any town...
Leveling at LHC has been one of the most satisfying experiences I've had on maple for years. Doing it with randoms is fun, and doing it with friends is even better. You get to at least do some team work and check out other classes skills at your side... it keeps things interesting as opposed to soloing ToT maps pre-BB, or dividing a Skeles map for 2 people.
But also... part of that experience is also going to the actual place. Going up to LHC, have it feel like a dangerous high level place, search for people, the thrill of it being a special area away from towns, etc. That gave it feeling. They were in the right direction by making more party play areas in Ellin Forest and Future Henesys. I can only imagine now how epic it was to travel to future Henesys to party play with other high leveled people...
But now? Want the best exp? Oh hai, click this magical NPC and do timed runs on these minirooms we got. When you get sick of it you can travel the actual Maple world for crappier exp... Happy Mapling!
I mean, gee... it would be EASIER to make party play areas on the actual game maps, instead of creating instanced maps and creating 2 separate versions of the same mob...
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Satellite - 2011-04-16
LegendGospel Wrote:I don't get the reason of making Monster Park...If I have to find a positive side of Monster Park, it is that I won't have to go islands away from Henehoe-land when I want to LHC.
I mean, sure it is a great concept, a party play area with high HP monsters that grant bonus EXP to 6-member parties... basically an instanced LHC with different areas... but...
Why not make these party play areas take place in the ACTUAL areas of the game, not by clicking an NPC from any town...
Leveling at LHC has been one of the most satisfying experiences I've had on maple for years. Doing it with randoms is fun, and doing it with friends is even better. You get to at least do some team work and check out other classes skills at your side... it keeps things interesting as opposed to soloing ToT maps pre-BB, or dividing a Skeles map for 2 people.
But also... part of that experience is also going to the actual place. Going up to LHC, have it feel like a dangerous high level place, search for people, the thrill of it being a special area away from towns, etc. That gave it feeling. They were in the right direction by making more party play areas in Ellin Forest and Future Henesys. I can only imagine now how epic it was to travel to future Henesys to party play with other high leveled people...
But now? Want the best exp? Oh hai, click this magical NPC and do timed runs on these minirooms we got. When you get sick of it you can travel the actual Maple world for crappier exp... Happy Mapling!
I mean, gee... it would be EASIER to make party play areas on the actual game maps, instead of creating instanced maps and creating 2 separate versions of the same mob...
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - iamflip - 2011-04-16
I think that both Dusk and Viaje are right in some sense, but only because the role of Bishops in MapleStory is so convoluted by Maple's game design. I read both of your posts, and I'm like... what the hell really is our role? We're supposed to be support right? And yet we should be able to hold our own as much as other mage classes (especially vs. holy-weak mobs), right?
What really is the right answer? Make us more balanced and worth it, or make the game mechanics more balanced and worth it for us? Or is both achievable, and how?
Maybe we should throw out everything and start anew. Oh wait... that's what MapleStory 2 is for... maybe...
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Abysseon - 2011-04-16
KMST F/P Archmage at Pap:
[video=youtube;nBAyNaiEZRc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBAyNaiEZRc[/video]
1.5-2.2 mil damage from mist eruption on the test server?
KMST F/P Archmage at Monster Park:
[video=youtube;c6HTUXj5eXQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6HTUXj5eXQ[/video]
F/P Archmage training at rextons:
[video=youtube;phLepEcw1ZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phLepEcw1ZM[/video]
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - ScherzoDeLuce - 2011-04-16
Mist Explosion have cooldown anyway. even if you can deal 999,999 per hit, 3m dmg every 10 sec isn't that imba. mech still deal much better dmg than that.
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Shidoshi - 2011-04-16
Abysseon Wrote:KMST F/P Archmage at Pap
1.5-2.2 mil damage from mist eruption on the test server?
KMST F/P Archmage at Monster Park:
Wow, eruption is beastly. Seems like using poison breath, fire demon and big bang before exploding stuff really increases the damage done, 2mil wow.
The second video the guy was stupid, he didn't explode his mists as soon as possible...
[1.2.378] Magicians in Jump - Abysseon - 2011-04-16
Can't get the vid but 161 I/L Archmage at Pap: http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ref=em_nom&ch_userid=kdh_001&prgid=41968318
ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:Mist Explosion have cooldown anyway. even if you can deal 999,999 per hit, 3m dmg every 10 sec isn't that imba. mech still deal much better dmg than that.
I didn't expect the skill to be used for bossing purposes in a test server so they're on the right track with F/P.
Now they need to fix I/L (Still nothing but CL spamming) and Bishops...