dante9898 Wrote:For people saying why nerf shen: >Ki strike.

A Hp tanky build Shen can kill anyone alone with Vorpal blade to heal and ki strike to attack, i know because as a pre nerf-nerf nocturne i could not kill a shen when i had Black Cleaver Lifesteal Brutalizer and i think stark fervor too.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:We also don't know what they're doing with CC reduction skills. Imagine them not stacking with tenacity items.

Dark Link Wrote:That's like saying CC reduction skills don't stack with Mercs. All it basically is is changing the name, the mechanic still works the exact same way.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:'cept it doesn't. Tenacity also reduces silence and blind duration, which old "CC reduction" did not do. Do the CC reduction skills work on silences and blinds now?

Darkmaniak Wrote:and now I think he should stop abusing Bots, 50/1/13 in Coop Vs AI!?! dam.

Thorns Wrote:between those 13 champions you pick up skills and learn things that can be applied to just about every other champion in the game

ashe - the importance of farming gold in the laning phase, as well as map awareness and positioning because she is powerful, but has no innate escape mechanism
nunu - the impact that counter jungling can have on the enemy team as well as the risk vs reward of a skill such as absolute zero
janna - the positives and negatives of having essentially a babysitter for your carry as well as learning how powerful relocation spells such as tempest can be
shen - team awareness, basic tanking skills such as keeping people off your carry
ryze - the basics of casting (as well as teaching you to hit your keys fast xD)
amumu - initiation and how to do it right, jungle tanking, and the importance of landing skillshots
teemo - the importance of map control and split pushing
taric - the sheer power of a targetable stun as well as the benefits of auras
alistar - the basics of roaming, ganking as well as meatshielding which some tanks are often forced to do
annie - teaches you last hitting and how to play disable casters (swain, leblanc etc)
tristana - like ashe, but with escape mechanisms
cho'gath - the psychological effect that a gigantic alien taking up half the screen that noms your carry's health in half has on your enemies xD xD

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:tl;dr BAWWWWW WHY CAN'T I SOLO THE TANK

This isn't going to fix anything that makes Shen strong. It's his ult. Nerf everything to the ground but the ult and you'll have the same Shen, more or less.

Eddikins Wrote:Why did they say something about Shen being able to carry.. hes a tank not a carry lol.