>Pineapple' Wrote:I picked up udyr shortly after tiger stance became usable, so I was still maxing phoenix and turtle first, but maxing tiger after lv 3 phoenix does seem like a good idea for ganking purposes.

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Brand was very rude.

madanthony Wrote:Because people use Wit's End?

madanthony Wrote:Because people use Wit's End?

ElectricSix Wrote:It's a reasonable pick on WW or Teemo, although rather situational. Not sure if it's viable on any other champs though.

Dark Link Wrote:Reports are coming in that "Philosopher's stone" is the new "Heart of Gold", but it benefits EVERYONE.

EDIT: Attempted solo baron out of spite on Xin in a Co-Op vs AI. I died with Baron sitting at 42 freaking HP. If only Frozen Mallet...
At least Kaji watched me and waited til I died to jump in and finish for the group lol

KajitiSouls Wrote:I had a good time doing the Chicken dance =D It's so slow though D=

Pro tip: you probably would have succeeded if you didn't get hit by Baron's knockups. Don't know how? Lrn2spot.

Dark Link Wrote:I could've succeeded if I saw my gold count beforehand. I didn't know I had enough for a Phage, which would have given me +225 HP. Also I don't do Baron enough to know his move patterns QQ.
Honestly though, I really didn't think I would get that far, considering Baron has what? 11 or 13k HP? I was expecting to get either 50% or 75% of the way before death.

KajitiSouls Wrote:EDIT: Watched the patch preview. The tenacity mechanic will need some further explaining, such as what the "cap" is to reduce all CC to 0 duration. I could be wrong, but the other tenacity items feel like they're too weak late game in situations not involving all-out team fighting. The one that builds off of Philo Stone seems unjustifiable, since it is a subsistence item, and chances are if they're going to get you with CC initiation, they have the opportunity to burst you down.

madanthony Wrote:You can't reduce CC to 0.

KajitiSouls Wrote:By the current system, the value required to reduce CC to 0 is 100%. Yes, it's obviously impossible. But what's the equivalent in tenacity?

Dark Link Wrote:All "Tenacity" does is make Irelia and Singed even more OP with their, already inherit, CC reduction.

Birdie Wrote:I dont see how tenacity is going to change them at all. It seems to me that merc treads are still going to provide the same amount of reduction, its just expressed with a different term. The new items with cc reduction dont stack and have less reduction than merc.