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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:You getting suss about meow now will make me, and potentially others suspicious about you, I'm just saying
But meow is pretty quiet today, meowmixx; you wanna talk a bit more?
I know, but I still wanna say what I think is right
But meow isn't at the top of my list anyway.
TheBirds is getting very, very quiet now, and that worries me again though.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:More crazy list-making! Here's the possibilities of this dice roll:
- Niernen is Town, Chaz is Town, Mafia is Unaware The mafia is trying to get Chaz killed for unknown motives (this could be a new list entirely!), and were unaware that Niernen was able to tell everyone. This is the best situation, and the one I'm inclined to believe at the moment (but not necessarily the most likely scenario). If the mafia was unaware, we'll have to watch out for the next vote-modifier because they will most certainly be reassessing strategy.
- Niernen is Town, Chaz is Town, Mafia is Aware Unlikely because wtp does a known vote modifier meant to do to help them? It's entirely possible that they're playing the added confusion (and they need to try and elicit more mislynches) but I don't want to give them cheaters any more credit than I have to. The Aware and Unaware scenarios will be pretty similar beyond these initial theory points so I'll only mention them if there's any particular distinction.
- Niernen is Town, Chaz is Town, Town/Neutral is perpetrating While giving a Town player a vote modifying role is shifty in itself, it's entirely possible so I don't want to ignore it. It could be a Town player who believes Chaz is shifty, but this implies that they can't possibly convince us otherwise (perfect scenario for a speech-impeded/vote-impeded person) or maybe they could use what is essentially a weighted vote. But in order to use this weighted vote, they will need to claim, and thus it's unlikely that they can convince us that voting Chaz is the right thing.
- Niernen is Town, Chaz is Mafia, Town/Neutral/Mafia is perpetrating Included mafia because it could all be a fancy bussing technique. Damn fancy bussing techniques. Town/Neutral could have figured out that Chaz is mafia, but will need to claim in order to verify this so they're in a tight spot, so it's more likely mafia if Chaz is mafia.
- Niernen is Mafia, Chaz is Town, Town/Neutral/Mafia is perpetrating Mafia-perp is one of the more likely scenarios. It's entirely possible that the forced vote claim is false in this scenario as well, but I'll maintain that the role is very much real. If it's a Town-perp, it'll be a bad assumption on their behalf, but they shouldn't get lynched for a mistake like that.
- Niernen is Mafia, Chaz is Mafia, Town/Neutral/Mafia is perpetrating If it's a mafia-perp, I'm going to go ahead and say that this is possibly one of the most outrageous and risky gambits in the history of SP mafia. The motive behind this would be for the Town to consider any of the other scenarios with a M. Night twist. Town-perp would imply that they're guessing at this point, similar to the possibility listed before.
- Niernen is lying Unlikely, for reasons that people have already used to debunk.
- Some crazy RNG is going on Unlikely, because that'd be tampering too much with the game, curse you Vlad
- Niernen has a power/someone else has a power that forces someone to modify their vote as a consequence Self-explanatory, but would be pretty hard to prove without claiming
The cat as in meow, or the cat as in the person trying to kill him (himself) and it fit as a rhyme
You getting suss about meow now will make me, and potentially others suspicious about you, I'm just saying
But meow is pretty quiet today, meowmixx; you wanna talk a bit more?
[COLOR="#cc8899"]Please take these pineapples, take them all,
Your logic seems to be on the ball,
You understood my words,
Unlike the other nerds.
You are an asset to our town hall.
[/COLOR]
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-13
sorry for tht, was in a birthday cake coma. but it did get me time to think and reflect on todays activities.
i am only taking things on face value as to why i am protecting meta. i could be wrong, nothing seems concrete in this darn world.
as for this morning [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; you were just screaming baddie to me with u wanting to know more bout the powers ppl may have here and with wanting the doctor (if we have one, idk anymore lol) to save the vocal one. atm it was you and i think it still is not that is a bad thing. it was almost like telling the doctor to save you. But suppose your a baddie, that is just wasting a save on the wrong person. now do i still think this, maybe... i do have my eye on you.
now off to reread from page 1
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-07-13
[MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; Since you haven't mentioned any actual reasons for voting for me, I'm assuming you're just trying to get me to talk more. So here are some of my thoughts so far:
I strongly suspect Kyr and meow are town. Kyrastri's daytime only power and general actions seem genuine. Meow's volunteering seems like a very unmafia action.
I don't think any of the "glitches" are genuine.
MasPan's skill with rhyme makes me think it's a ploy. Odds are that anyone getting that restriction would be far less proficient.
Meta has basically contributed nothing so far and his glitch seems more like a reaction to MasPan's prose than anything else. It also reeks of either laziness or malicious intent.
I actually suspect LuvD is neutral. He doesn't seem interested in scum hunting and is primarily concerned with just waiting out the time until he can activate his mysterious ability.
I wasn't initially suspicious of Chaz, but the I need to reconsider my assumptions because the the vote control (without a gag order???) and the other night actions being reported. This is a very power heavy game so I think that's our best place to look for clues.
You've noticed I'm posting less often than previously. I'm now working full time (mentioned this before we started) so I will be primarily posting in the evenings.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
meowmixx Wrote:sorry for tht, was in a birthday cake coma. but it did get me time to think and reflect on todays activities.Finally back, meow. I'm happy you're here, at least.
i am only taking things on face value as to why i am protecting meta. i could be wrong, nothing seems concrete in this darn world.
as for this morning LuvDWayULie; you were just screaming baddie to me with u wanting to know more bout the powers ppl may have here and with wanting the doctor (if we have one, idk anymore lol) to save the vocal one. atm it was you and i think it still is not that is a bad thing. it was almost like telling the doctor to save you. But suppose your a baddie, that is just wasting a save on the wrong person. now do i still think this, maybe... i do have my eye on you.
now off to reread from page 1
And I knew you will be suss of me haha. Who isn't? Oh well. Nah, not trying to tell the doctor to save me. I'm actually telling the doc to save Kyra, since she's the one with known powers, assuming she's a Townie. I do not need rescue by the doctor, and I doubt the doctor will wanna save me. If the mafias kill me, so be it then. Not like I can do anything to protect against them myself anyway
As what the previous game has said, read faster
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What makes you think that way about me, VerrKol? Just wondering
I, for one, actually did suggest people who are suspicious IMO, although not with specific targets (Not my style, specific targets aren't working for me). My powers? I can't activate it yet, it's all about the matter of time, time and time.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - CakesXD - 2014-07-13
meowmixx Wrote:now off to reread from page 1
I do that all too often. Maybe we should both start taking notes?
Right now, I'm pretty much lost. TheBirds is definitely suspicious because of the silence, but I'm not very sure about anyone else.
-patiently waits for Kyrastri's power to do its thing-
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - xBTAx - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri rolled their pair of dice again, this time towards TheBirds. The dice stopped right in front of TheBirds' feet. They peered down at the dice and confirmed that the roll was a 4.
Just like last time, the timer began to glow, but the word that appeared was different. "SILENCED!" now floated above the timer in navy letters. The atmosphere shifted again, leaving you wondering what you ever saw in Kyrastri. All of you felt that their word could not be trusted for the time being, and so while you allowed them to continue participating in the discussion, you agreed to not pay too much mind to any accusations they made.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-13
Hi Luv. sorry bout being fishy towards u. i have a hard time letting things go.
As for Kyra I was thinking she is either mafia or neutral. Based on my knowledge of movies (sad yes ik, im a no life) they are prone to being baddies or selfish beings. But as with everything, time reveals all. TBH i would keep her around just based off of her power. who doesnt want to see the mayhem a pair of dice can bring lol.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:I
I like dice
But meow is pretty quiet today, meowmixx; you wanna talk a bit more?
Oh wow, that must have taken a lot of time. Previously I was saying that mafia having a vote altering power seemed to unbalanced, but looking at your explanation it does seem like a mafia type of power, since it throws the town into chaos. The problem is I can't prove that the vote is being forced and we won't know until the next day. If someone else gets forced to vote, we will know that I'm telling the truth. This is all to complicated
, especially since we can't exactly prove anything without either lynching Chaz or me or waiting till tomorrow. I am wondering why [MENTION=5839]Chaz[/MENTION]; has been silent about this though, since he is also being implicated. I've defended myself best I can, but Chaz has said nothing about any of this. Actually, looking back over his posts today, he really has not said much after he asked me who I was being forced to vote on. I find that strange, because you would think that someone would react to having someone being forced to vote for them. Chaz did not react or comment at all on the fact that I am being forced to vote on him, which is odd to say the least. I also find it interesting that he asked who I was being forced to vote for, no one else did, and it almost seems like he knew I would be able to reveal who I had to vote for. If Chaz had a vote manipulating power, it is entirely possible he used it to make me vote for him, as it makes me look scummy while also making him look like someone else's target.
edit: looks like a whole new page popped up while typing this.
So, it looks like Kyrastri's dice roll affects them and not the person that they are rolling the dice towards. I wonder if the silence affects their voting (like making it not count), but I don't know how to test it. Not sure how else he could be silenced.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-13
i am soooo confused with these dice rolls. i swear i went a little cross-eyed rereading it over and over. maybe my comprehension has gone to poop but what does it mean
edit: ok thinking cap on...i think. maybe we DONT pay attention to what kyra says. like she can talk all she wants but dont acknowledge her theories and the like. that in a way is a silence
edit part 2: OK so i had a thought while walking the dog. kyra is a gambler (yes meow tell us something we dont kno). well she uses dice. its mostly 2 6 sided dice. a common gamblers game is craps right. if im correct snake eyes r bad so maybe kyra dies wen she gets tht. 7 and 11 are good so wen she gets tht she....idk kills someone. maybe thats y she was advised to not use it on herself as she would have 1/4 of a chance of killing herself. eh ill sleep on this theory.
also i wont b answering (mostly peering in randomly) at 9pm est. got my trueblood comin on and gotta get my League on.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
meowmixx Wrote:i am soooo confused with these dice rolls. i swear i went a little cross-eyed rereading it over and over. maybe my comprehension has gone to poop but what does it mean
So far we have seen no actual results. The previous day he had increased presence, and today he has a decreased presence. Yesterday's result was either of respect or fear, and todays was of untrustworthiness. I don't really get it though, because I highly doubt he is mafia. It does say the effects are only for a day, so it is possible that his power changes his affiliation? So his power could make him temporarily mafia/neutral?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
meowmixx Wrote:sorry for tht, was in a birthday cake coma. but it did get me time to think and reflect on todays activities.Yay food comas! They're always fun to have, though maybe I should move this comment to the discussion thread.
meowmixx Wrote:as for this morning LuvDWayULie; you were just screaming baddie to me with u wanting to know more bout the powers ppl may have here and with wanting the doctor (if we have one, idk anymore lol) to save the vocal one. atm it was you and i think it still is not that is a bad thing. it was almost like telling the doctor to save you. But suppose your a baddie, that is just wasting a save on the wrong person. now do i still think this, maybe... i do have my eye on you.
now off to reread from page 1
What would lead you to believe that there is no doctor? Like someone said before (honestly cannot be bothered to check for names atm, I'm crafting a post
), a doctor is part of your traditional set-up. We have you (cue korean drama music 
), so we definitely know that there is some element of normality in the game.I personally dismissed his requests as curiosity to the game (I want to know more about the roles after the game is over, especially with the current dead, so if [MENTION=3177]xBTAx[/MENTION]; can fufill that request I'd be so happy), though he was doing a KhainiWest with asking for the doctor. Either way it implicates him badly because they're meant to do their own thing.
VerrKol Wrote:I strongly suspect Kyr and meow are town. Kyrastri's daytime only power and general actions seem genuine. Meow's volunteering seems like a very unmafia action.I'm actually a little pissed off from rolling the dice on Meow so quickly.
VerrKol Wrote:It also reeks of either laziness or malicious intent.Well to play the devil's advocate, I'd be pretty damn annoyed at having to find words to quote. If I had gotten that role I'd have definitely subbed out by the time school started, I wouldn't have the dedication to find quotes AND scumhunt with that limited vocab.
[MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION];, can we quote a dictionary or something so you can use those words relatively normally or are there more constraints beyond this? Yes/No
VerrKol Wrote:I actually suspect LuvD is neutral. He doesn't seem interested in scum hunting and is primarily concerned with just waiting out the time until he can activate his mysterious ability.As much as I'd like to implicate everyone as neutral, we do need to start pointing fingers a little more. Luv in this case has a stronger base from posting that would suggest that, yes. I should hope that it's worth it, timed skills may only work from Day 3 onwards (Liable had a day 3 unlock).
VerrKol Wrote:I wasn't initially suspicious of Chaz, but the I need to reconsider my assumptions because the the vote control (without a gag order???) and the other night actions being reported. This is a very power heavy game so I think that's our best place to look for clues.Night time PMs are one of our biggest weapons in learning about roles without forcing anyone to claim, but it seems that only roleblocking abilities or vote modifying abilities are producing PMs at the moment. That is, assuming that everyone used their available powers, which may not be the case.
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I'm actually telling the doc to save Kyra, since she's the one with known powers, assuming she's a Townie. I do not need rescue by the doctor, and I doubt the doctor will wanna save me.Don't save me .______. Not only is my power useless from what I see (SILENCING people? come on, that is the exact opposite of what I want. C'mon Lady Luck, I know I seduced you that other day but no need to throw a hissyfit), but the only power I have in helping town is my information/deductions and my vote. Both are easily replacable. There are more important people that need to be saved at the moment. I'm just an old fart who spends time at the casino too much, so much that it's become part of who I am.
xBTAx Wrote:Just like last time, the timer began to glow, but the word that appeared was different. "SILENCED!" now floated above the timer in navy letters. The atmosphere shifted again, leaving you wondering what you ever saw in Kyrastri. All of you felt that their word could not be trusted for the time being, and so while you allowed them to continue participating in the discussion, you agreed to not pay too much mind to any accusations they made.
are you serious
c'mon babe, I know I'm harsh but no need to be that way.
Joking aside, I won't be surprised if TheBirds stops talking altogether for today. While I'm inclined to believe the silence is to the vote, which is the bit that matters, but it could also be a posting restriction. Or it isn't but they're taking advantage of not needing to talk today.
meowmixx Wrote:Hi Luv. sorry bout being fishy towards u. i have a hard time letting things go.
As for Kyra I was thinking she is either mafia or neutral. Based on my knowledge of movies (sad yes ik, im a no life) they are prone to being baddies or selfish beings. But as with everything, time reveals all. TBH i would keep her around just based off of her power. who doesnt want to see the mayhem a pair of dice can bring lol.
(Was that "hi luv" both a play on words and a greeting?! hi five!)
It's a digital mafia, not a movie mafia. But yeah, gamblers are usually the big baddies in movies, right?! -moustache- I assure you miss that I mean no harm against y'all, and I'll continue my work posting theories based on actions I've seen. But I'm warning y'all now, if you think I'm mafia or anti-town I want some solid offense to kill me off, not some reference to irrelevant mediums. Call it my love of drama and logic in a gambler's world where open violence ain't tolerated, y'hear? I ain't going down so easy.
Niernen Wrote:Oh wow, that must have taken a lot of time. Previously I was saying that mafia having a vote altering power seemed to unbalanced, but looking at your explanation it does seem like a mafia type of power, since it throws the town into chaos. The problem is I can't prove that the vote is being forced and we won't know until the next day. If someone else gets forced to vote, we will know that I'm telling the truth. This is all to complicatedIt did take a while, because I had to edit it several times before posting to remove redundancies. So I hope everyone at least gets some use out of it.
My main defense to your unbalanced theory was that the game seems to be a really power-heavy game, so it could swing any way it wants to. So far it's been a really chaotic game, and we don't have much in the open to go off.
Regarding Chaz, you're right in that his behaviour after revealing that you were forced to vote for him was eerily silent. You've mentioned him so I don't want to quote him without adding anything, but he should at least post some sort of reaction.
Niernen Wrote:edit: looks like a whole new page popped up while typing this.
So, it looks like Kyrastri's dice roll affects them and not the person that they are rolling the dice towards. I wonder if the silence affects their voting (like making it not count), but I don't know how to test it. Not sure how else he could be silenced.
Wait wait wait, was I the one being silenced? Now that I read the text again, it could go both ways, but I didn't get a PM or anything of the like saying "stfu" or "you can't vote, gg". If this post stays we can say that my posting isn't restricted, but should I test a vote?
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Niernen Wrote:So far we have seen no actual results. The previous day he had increased presence, and today he has a decreased presence. Yesterday's result was either of respect or fear, and todays was of untrustworthiness. I don't really get it though, because I highly doubt he is mafia. It does say the effects are only for a day, so it is possible that his power changes his affiliation? So his power could make him temporarily mafia/neutral?
I can assure you I haven't been notified of any affiliation changes. I didn't get a PM at all.
And also, screw you Vlad! It says pay no heed to accusations made, but I still got my scumhuntin' cap on, son! You're ten thousand years too young to be challenging a master of luck!
[Vote] Kyrastri
(For the record, I mean nothing against you xBTAx D: That's Philibert talking, he's become somewhat present in my head, likes reading the newspaper and eats too much ketchup.)
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:Wait wait wait, was I the one being silenced? Now that I read the text again, it could go both ways, but I didn't get a PM or anything of the like saying "stfu" or "you can't vote, gg". If this post stays we can say that my posting isn't restricted, but should I test a vote?
xBTAx Wrote:Kyrastri rolled their pair of dice again, this time towards TheBirds. The dice stopped right in front of TheBirds' feet. They peered down at the dice and confirmed that the roll was a 4.
Just like last time, the timer began to glow, but the word that appeared was different. "SILENCED!" now floated above the timer in navy letters. The atmosphere shifted again, leaving you wondering what you ever saw in Kyrastri. All of you felt that their word could not be trusted for the time being, and so while you allowed them to continue participating in the discussion, you agreed to not pay too much mind to any accusations they made.
It seems more like you were silenced because we are supposed to ignore you. But if you did not get any pm's who knows? [MENTION=7423]TheBirds[/MENTION]; could have been silenced, but even if he was not I don't see him posting because he now has an excuse not to
It seems like [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; [MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION]; [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; and I are the most active (probably because we have the most free time for now). Everyone one has posted at least once, but some have posted no more than once. I get people are busy, but we need more input and viewpoints! The day is half over now, so everyone needs to chip in if we want to get somewhere. You don't need to vote yet, but even sharing any deductions helps.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-13
[MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; please dont worry about the rolling of the dice towards me. as soon as u talked about it my body was ready and i began typing before my mind could say "CHILL THE HELL OUT GIRL". i just couldnt resist an experiment so no bad feelings towards that.
I am also curious about the powers of the dead. especially the robot. maybe it was Optimus Prime (robots in disguise LOL)
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
Niernen Wrote:It seems more like you were silenced because we are supposed to ignore you.
"And also, screw you Vlad! It says pay no heed to accusations made, but I still got my scumhuntin' cap on, son!"
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meowmixx Wrote:Kyrastri; please dont worry about the rolling of the dice towards me. as soon as u talked about it my body was ready and i began typing before my mind could say "CHILL THE HELL OUT GIRL". i just couldnt resist an experiment so no bad feelings towards that.
I am also curious about the powers of the dead. especially the robot. maybe it was Optimus Prime (robots in disguise LOL)
Experiment or not, if luck had screwed us over we'd have been severely crippled.
transformers! ROBOTS IN DISGUIIIIIISE
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Olsi - 2014-07-13
Im still fishy that the post restrictions are genuine. But its almost impossible to really prove something like that other than a guess so I guess we are out of luck in that sense. [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; not sure if its been said but when it says we decide not to listen to you I think it means that we decide to ignore your vote during lynch time.
[MENTION=5147]Sega[/MENTION]; you wanna give any thoughts about whats been going on so far?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
Olsi Wrote:Sega; you wanna give any thoughts about whats been going on so far?
[MENTION=5147]Sega[/MENTION]; was subbed with [MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION];
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Olsi - 2014-07-13
oh what the pineapple. Guess i missed that part, its hard keeping up with these walls of text. Guess i got nothing then Q_Q
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Holypie - 2014-07-13
Okay I really have nothing so far. If the dice roll silenced TheBirds I don't think that would have made a significant difference anyway considering he wasn't talking much to begin with. As for Niernen's situation, I kind of feel like voting for Chaz because of his suspiciousness yesterday and his complete absence in the face of being force-voted. This situation might very well be a mafia ploy to get the town to take attention off Chaz considering he was second to be lynched yesterday. The only thing I'm hesitant about is the possibility that Chaz really is town and the vote forcer just picked someone who's town but would likely be lynched? I don't think they knew that the forced vote would be disclosed either way. Agh this is annoying.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Chaz - 2014-07-13
Sorry for not responding so soon but I been trying to think of a post to do but keep up coming with blanks.
I have lost all suspicions of maspan but still feels Meta fishie and Meow feel fishie now. I don't see why meta still needs protection atm when almost everyone is focused on me or TheBirds. Why would meow need to keep protecting Meta. That makes no sense to me at all. As for the ones who are mostly quiet it would be more suspicious if they actually started to be more vocal now then they were before.
I gonna Vote MetaSeraphim I feel that him being protected both days when very little fingers pointed at him is more suspicious then myself not responding so quickly to the fingers pointed at myself.
Niernen Wrote:So far we have seen no actual results. The previous day he had increased presence, and today he has a decreased presence. Yesterday's result was either of respect or fear, and todays was of untrustworthiness. I don't really get it though, because I highly doubt he is mafia. It does say the effects are only for a day, so it is possible that his power changes his affiliation? So his power could make him temporarily mafia/neutral?
Fear and untrustworthiness do not feel qualities of a townie, normally. So he could be either mafia or neutral. I am leaning towards more of neutral then I am mafia. With mafia you kinda of know what to expect from them but neutrals are a different set of loaded dice. But then again he could gambling townie for all we know. I think a 3rd day of dice roll to see if there is any positive qualities to make sure.
I wonder if TheBirds can still vote even Though he is mostly like can not talk.
It could be very possible that some the mafia are not voting at all and letting the town bumble around into mistakes. We did have 4-6 no votes. Too little clues make it very hard to work with. With everyone who voted on Liable and we do have that 1 townie who voted for Liable who showed up in the container makes me think this is a strong possibility.
Hopefully I don't keep coming up with mental blocks. Words are not my strong suit.