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Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - JoeTang - 2012-11-12

It does and I've already included that. If you check the tables, you'll notice (4), (3), and (2) are all identical, because Body Boost with Union Aura's buff makes it last as long as the cooldown, so it can be active indefinitely.

Here's that new Lumi buff.

Luminous (Light):
 Spoiler
 Sharp Eyes
Luminous (Dark):
 Spoiler
 Sharp Eyes
 Hyper


Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Arcana27961 - 2012-11-12

I can't believe I'm once again surprised at Nexon's inability to balance their game. Compared to the other mages, those numbers for BaMs are just ridiculous...

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Elecher - 2012-11-13

Actually, I'm pretty shocked that nexon decided to double up power of Battle Mages. Usally they buff already OP classes and classes which need that are forgotten (poor Pallies). BaMs deserved it Wink

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - JoeTang - 2012-11-13

My guess is they severely underestimated how strong they made BKB. It's 2800% over 7 hits in 240ms + 300ms, both of which can activate Final Attack, though that's not that strong to begin with. And the AOE is probably the biggest of any BaM skill that isn't Dark Genesis. The second attack has more horizontal reach than Dark Shock, and it can hit higher than Dark Genesis.

I'm hoping for a general nerf. It doesn't make sense, especially when you compare it to Beyonder, or any of the 8s CD Hyper Attacks which are a very similar skills that aren't overpowered.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Snapz - 2012-11-13

if any class actually deserves a buff of this magnitude, i think BaMs do still. I remember pqing with this evan with 20k less range than me on my bam, and she still outdamaged or matched my damage quite easily.
Really wish we had flame wheel or illusion.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - MorbidMagus - 2012-11-13

Snapz Wrote:if any class actually deserves a buff of this magnitude, i think BaMs do still. I remember pqing with this evan with 20k less range than me on my bam, and she still outdamaged or matched my damage quite easily.
Really wish we had flame wheel or illusion.

I fail to see how Battle Magicians "deserve" the ability to outclass every other magician in damage while having superior defensive and party abilities.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Arrol - 2012-11-13

MorbidMagus Wrote:I fail to see how Battle Magicians "deserve" the ability to outclass every other magician in damage while having superior defensive and party abilities.

Dual Bladers vs. Shadowers debate in reverse.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Jamesie - 2012-11-13

Arrol Wrote:Dual Bladers vs. Shadowers debate in reverse.
But Shadowers don't have nearly as much party utility as Battle Mages.

I personally don't think Battle Mages should have gotten this big of a buff. I personally thought they were in a good place after their Rise Against revamp since that made them respectable while not being completely ridiculous with their kit. Not to mention I think it's a little unfair that virtually every class gets an active attack Hyper with a cooldown and Battle Mages get their skill that doesn't have a cooldown and is pretty ridiculous damage.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Kalemora - 2012-11-13

Just when I thought Nexon's sense of class balance couldn't get any worse. Jeez.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Arcana27961 - 2012-11-14

I wish Nexon would stop buffing the classes at different times (or stop constantly buffing the classes). It may be a lot of work, but that's Nexon's fault for introducing so many classes. Here's hoping BaMs get a massive nerf soon...

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - IllegallySane - 2012-11-14

Arcana27961 Wrote:I wish Nexon would stop buffing the classes at different times (or stop constantly buffing the classes). It may be a lot of work, but that's Nexon's fault for introducing so many classes. Here's hoping BaMs get a massive nerf soon...

I agree. It sucks knowing that your class is never safe from suddenly sucking or others getting sudden spikes of buffs. At least games from Blizzard can keep balance at all but the pure metagame level (because only players can find imbalance in well balanced games).

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - JoeTang - 2012-11-16

Updated the OP. Made a fix for any 810ms attack, so they should be seeing a slight improvement at Fastest (2). As it turns out, base speed for normal attacks is 800ms, not 810ms. It only gets rounded to 810ms at Normal (6), but otherwise hits flat 600ms at Fastest (2), which is where an issue originally was, where Normal (6) 810ms went to Fastest (2) 630ms. Now they correctly reach 600ms.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Arrol - 2012-12-05

I look forward to seeing more analysis, JoeTang, because we got altered Lumi stats.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - JoeTang - 2012-12-05

Arrol Wrote:I look forward to seeing more analysis, JoeTang, because we got altered Lumi stats.

From what I see, the only true difference is they get both Dark and Light Affinities. Don't they still need to use one type to enter Equilibrium?

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Jamesie - 2012-12-05

JoeTang Wrote:From what I see, the only true difference is they get both Dark and Light Affinities. Don't they still need to use one type to enter Equilibrium?
They charge the feathers and once the feathers are charged they can consume one charge to enter Equilibrium and then pop-out in Dark mode. Depending on the cooldown on the swapping modes, it might be more damage since you could spam to Equilib. a few times in a row.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Captain Wax - 2012-12-05

Jamesie Wrote:They charge the feathers and once the feathers are charged they can consume one charge to enter Equilibrium and then pop-out in Dark mode. Depending on the cooldown on the swapping modes, it might be more damage since you could spam to Equilib. a few times in a row.

The cooldown on swapping modes is ~160 seconds

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Jamesie - 2012-12-05

Captain Wax Wrote:The cooldown on swapping modes is ~160 seconds
Forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me!

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - JoeTang - 2012-12-05

Captain Wax Wrote:The cooldown on swapping modes is ~160 seconds

And in KMS, it takes you about 35s to go from Sunfire/Eclipse into Equilibrium. Less for Eclipse if you use Morning Starfall.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - Jamesie - 2012-12-05

JoeTang Wrote:And in KMS, it takes you about 35s to go from Sunfire/Eclipse into Equilibrium. Less for Eclipse if you use Morning Starfall.
Sucks to suck for GMS then.

Magician %/s (KMS FLY 2 & GMS Dawnveil) - valhala556 - 2012-12-06

JoeTang Wrote:And in KMS, it takes you about 35s to go from Sunfire/Eclipse into Equilibrium. Less for Eclipse if you use Morning Starfall.

Man that just sucks -_-. GMS sucks