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[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - FanaticRat - 2010-07-05
Alloy Wrote:Hey, that's interesting. The skill that's more powerful is the one that drains ammo faster.They'll have to choose between cannon and rapid fire depending on bullets left, I guess.
Still, you have to remember that Bullets come in sets a lot larger than any sort of stars. Assuming you had 12 sets of eternals like I do (because I'm a moron) and held down RF all the time, it'd take almost 40 minutes to run out of ammo. And given that Cannon does more damage and cooldown is lowered to 30 seconds, I still wouldn't think that bullet consumption will be much of an issue.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - vx-2 - 2010-07-05
FanaticRat Wrote:Still, you have to remember that Bullets come in sets a lot larger than any sort of stars. Assuming you had 12 sets of eternals like I do (because I'm a moron) and held down RF all the time, it'd take almost 40 minutes to run out of ammo. And given that Cannon does more damage and cooldown is lowered to 30 seconds, I still wouldn't think that bullet consumption will be much of an issue.
It would be, if u're in HT and other boss runs.
Hey guys, so hurricane/ StormofArrow = shoot6? or..... which one? I cant seem to find it in the list
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - TamilTiger1 - 2010-07-05
vx-2 Wrote:It would be, if u're in HT and other boss runs.
Hey guys, so hurricane/ StormofArrow = shoot6? or..... which one? I cant seem to find it in the list
I would guess shoot6 is ultimate straff just because it uses 6 arrows per shot.
Isn't there some kind of delay involved with hurricane and rapid fire? even if it says 60ms, with the delay its really not 60ms right? I remember seeing "hurricane delay" from spadow's blog somewhere i think.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - rowenaxmarie - 2010-07-05
I honestly don't know what to make of dark knight updates :|
I saw 2 videos of kmst drks, one using crusher and the other using fury.
I'm pretty annoyed at all our updates cause from my point of view it all sucks :f6:
Am I not seeing something that other dark knights see? Lol
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Random_Overlord - 2010-07-05
LegendGospel Wrote:Actually, now that you mention it...
No ultimate leeching
No PG leeching
No tempest leeching
No heaven's hammer leeching
No hitting monsters higher than your own level
... Haven't they effectively removed leech from the game? Why not get the 60:40 formula back? o_O Eh, attackers will still get most of the EXP from bosses, but for training (specially for poor clerics and priests) it would help a lot... I can't even think where the hell they level in KMS with no Masteria, Zipangu or Singapore undeads...
[video=youtube;P3ALwKeSEYs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs&feature=related[/video]
But will Drk's replace them since Roar is basicly no delay now? =/
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - mamaloki - 2010-07-05
rowenaxmarie Wrote:I honestly don't know what to make of dark knight updates :|
I saw 2 videos of kmst drks, one using crusher and the other using fury.
I'm pretty annoyed at all our updates cause from my point of view it all sucks :f6:
Am I not seeing something that other dark knights see? Lol
well if you thinkit suck it will be sucked. Like what i always say, have some confident with DK. else forget it.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - kremechoko - 2010-07-05
Random_Overlord Wrote:
But will Drk's replace them since Roar is basicly no delay now? =/
-facepalm-
Yes, dude. The insane amount of attack Roar does and extremely huge range it has will replace mages.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Bremze - 2010-07-05
I think he may have meant that as a replacement for leeching purposes, not replacing the mage classes as a whole.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - rowenaxmarie - 2010-07-05
mamaloki Wrote:well if you thinkit suck it will be sucked. Like what i always say, have some confident with DK. else forget it.
I wouldn't be a 190 Drk if I didn't have any confidence in my class now would I?
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Takebacker - 2010-07-05
rowenaxmarie Wrote:I wouldn't be a 190 Drk if I didn't have any confidence in my class now would I?
Just because you have confidence with the old system doesn't mean you instantly have confidence in the new system.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - rowenaxmarie - 2010-07-05
Takebacker Wrote:Just because you have confidence with the old system doesn't mean you instantly have confidence in the new system.
Lol I have my dislikes on both. Drks are still below all warriors but w/e. I've been able to boss at low lvls cause of HB.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Cyanne - 2010-07-05
Dark knights are actually quite strong on their own, I think people way underrate them :3 Plus, thorns is awesome with them.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Takebacker - 2010-07-05
Doesn't thorns not affect DrKs now? But yeah, i agree, DrKs are pretty underrated.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-07-05
Cyanne Wrote:Dark knights are actually quite strong on their own, I think people way underrate them :3 Plus, thorns is awesome with them.
Isn't thorns pretty much inferior to SE anyways? since they changed it, I mean.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Takebacker - 2010-07-05
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Isn't thorns pretty much inferior to SE anyways? since they changed it, I mean.
SE is +15% rate, thorns is +20%.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Cyanne - 2010-07-05
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Isn't thorns pretty much inferior to SE anyways? since they changed it, I mean.
I mean before the revamp.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - GodCanJudge - 2010-07-05
thorns was betteer before and after
anyways drks are pretty amazing dmg wise, did you see the video of the drk using sacrifice?
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - jhkplaya888 - 2010-07-05
LegendGospel Wrote:Actually, now that you mention it...
No ultimate leeching
No PG leeching
No tempest leeching
No heaven's hammer leeching
No hitting monsters higher than your own level
... Haven't they effectively removed leech from the game? Why not get the 60:40 formula back? o_O Eh, attackers will still get most of the EXP from bosses, but for training (specially for poor clerics and priests) it would help a lot... I can't even think where the hell they level in KMS with no Masteria, Zipangu or Singapore undeads...
Unless they're afraid of, uh... having someone leech harps with a Bishop Big Banging as fast as possible the whole map... but then again... wouldn't training be more effective than that anyway?
With all the skill changes, can anyone think on an effective way to leech?
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Dual blades still have an ultimate without cooldown if im correct.
Pages still have pg, so pg leech still works. Hermits now also have pg O_o
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Devil - 2010-07-05
GodCanJudge Wrote:Anyways drks are pretty amazing dmg wise, did you see the video of the drk using sacrifice?Remember, DkK's still do half their damage at squad bosses, with a heal slave around healing other party members...
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Hazzy - 2010-07-05
Devil Wrote:Remember, DkK's still do half their damage at squad bosses, with a heal slave around healing other party members...
Berserk got flipped in kMST. It's active as long as you're over 70% HP.