Rayquaza2233 Wrote:OKAY NEW BUILD THAT ISN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD ONE

SV -> Merc's -> Warmog's -> Ghostblade -> Atma's -> FoN

I NEED TO FIT A STARK'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE

Buy a tank item if you even need it (which you usually don't).
where ;_;

dante9898 Wrote:I builded my Smurf mundo with Sunfire-Merc Threads-Spirit Visage as a Core. Then after that i builded once Force of nature+Warmog for Infinite W with a nashor tooth for Extra Asp and AP for W. That Bot game for me was 19-13-26, most of the time dying in late game i think (was 2 days ago so don't remember well).

You definitely want a SV since it Boost the HP recovery of your innate, your Q and your R so no questions about that.

>Pineapple' Wrote:You died in bot games?

>Pineapple' Wrote:You died in bot games?

Dark Link Wrote:I die all the time when I screw around. Mass lulz indeed.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Jungling/Armour/Lifesteal/AD
wriggles

HP/CDR/Survivability
visage, (important pomegranate ok)

Have-not HP items
hog, (unless I sell it 15 minutes later)


Sustained Magic
force of nature,

Getting Bursted to Death
banshees

Chain CC
quicksilver sash,


Anti-caster
hexdrinker,

Ranged Phys DPS enemies (especially Twitch)
thornmail


For slowing enemies even more (and armour, HP, CDR)
omen,



DPS
triforce,


With Other Crit Items
infinity edge,


Boots
cooldown boots, ,
zerkers,
treads.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Returning with LIST OF POSSIBLE MUNDO ITEMS instead of a build.

 Spoiler

Jungling/Armour/Lifesteal/AD
wriggles I'm a fan of wriggles, it works for a lot of champs, but he's one of the few who don't need it and are generally better off going other items, it's too big of a wasted slot and you want to maximize your slot usage by mid game so that you're night unkillable and doing good damage

HP/CDR
kindlegem,

HP/CDR/Survivability
visage, (important pomegranate ok)


HP/HP Regen
warmogs,
emblem of valour,

Have-not HP items
frozen mallet, (if unable to get red buff for who knows what reason)
hog, (unless I sell it 15 minutes later)


Sustained Magic
force of nature,

Getting Bursted to Death
banshees

Chain CC
quicksilver sash, (I'd only get if Malz was around, since his combo is far more dangerous than most due to his pool being Health % based)

Anti-caster
hexdrinker,
wit's end, Other items more worthwhile

Ranged Any team with mostly Phys DPS enemies (especially Twitch)
thornmail

General plantainery with Sadism
guardian angel,

Tanky DPS enemies
sunfire,

For slowing enemies even more (and armour, HP, CDR)
omen,


DPS/Armour
Atma's


DPS
triforce, Too expensive for too little utility

Armour pen for non armour-stackers
starks,
brutalizer,
ghostblade,

Armour Stacking
last whisper,

With Other Crit Items
infinity edge,


Team Support
aegis

Anti-healer
executioners calling Waste of a slot

Boots
cooldown boots You're better off getting cd, if you want it, from other sources, Ghostblade or Randuin's + SV + Blue Pot for example
tabi Dodge chance is too risky, better off getting Thornmail/GA if you're dealing with lots of AAers
zerkers, No, just no
treads.

ElectricSix Wrote:<.< Made some notes Ray. Not that I'm the end all, be all of itemization on Mundo, but some of your picks were terribad imo.

>Pineapple' Wrote:>Wriggles is great on mundo. He's supposed to dps.
>QSS is great and cost effective even if their team doesn't have suppression.
>Triforce is great after getting a PD
>Zerkers are good for dps if they don't have enough cc to really bother you/ if you have qss

ElectricSix Wrote:Even if you go DPS with Mundo, I still don't think Wriggle's is as worthwhile an item as getting an early Brutalizer + Vampire Scepter. Wriggles works for some DPS, but I just don't see it being as valuable on Mundo as other items.

FoN + Merc Treads or even B Veil + Merc Treads is a better choice against heavy Magic/CC teams. As Mundo you should be popping your ult whenever you're team fights are starting, so with all that combined, CC shouldn't even be used on you, and if it is, your team should be punishing them for focusing that CC on you.

Triforce is a good item, but I'd rather pick up a Frozen Mallet + Phantom Dancer since the Sheen proc and mana are relatively useless on Mundo and both of those items synergize better with the other items I'd pick if I was going DPS. I could see sticking with just a Zeal and Phage for a while to see if you need another item slot more than you need those two seperate items, but I still feel Tri Force is better off being picked up by other champions most games.

Zerkers are a nice cheap boot, but I'd rather either a) reduce cc on me even more when I run into a team fight or b) Pick up some boots of swiftness to make Mundo running and killing your carry a constant threat every team fight. It's true if you go FoN and Phantom Dancer that you probably don't need that extra speed boost, since Mundo's ult boots your speed as well, but if you've got that Phantom Dancer, you're already well on your way as far as Atk Speed goes, and at that point I'd probably sell my Swiftness boots for Merc Treads anyway.

 Well done Kaj, well done

KajitiSouls Wrote:Man, I don't get it. How come people Will and I see less than level 30 are like 4x more coordinated and nicer than the level 30s Duel and I have been seeing?

WillDaSnail Wrote:I'm guessing some Level 30 peeps ---> egos are very high, like to mock others harshly for their mistakes, etc?

Duelman Wrote:I'm curious will, is your win loss ratio in normals positive or negative? It may have to do with the type of people kaj and I get queued up with, some are freaking ridiculous.