Niernen Wrote:LuvDWayULie; talking about doctors is a bad idea. While we don't know if there is one, it is pretty standard to have one, so there is no need to ask. No one can claim because the mafia would immediately try to kill them (and the doctor can't protect himself). There is no point early in this game. Trying to make the doctor come out or imply you are the doctor is just a bad idea.

Kyrastri; I didn't see the need to immediately jump out and reveal I had been forced to vote for Chaz, as the whole discussion would flow that way and there were other important things to talk about too. I was waiting for people to form some ideas about the previous day first, and didn't see the harm in waiting a few hours till more people were up. People were mentioning powers, blocks and voting, so I responded to that, but I was waiting till a bit later so we could get a bit more information. If I had voted for Chaz first thing, it would have been possible people did not believe me and I would have looked really scummy.

And I have to agree with others, revealing your role unless it will be made public regardless is not always the best idea.

Polantaris; I was really tired last night for some reason, and when I woke up I felt I needed to vote for Chaz, it felt like the right thing to do. I don't have any reasons and I can't really explain why.


I'm sorry, but my internet keeps cutting out every 10-15 minutes, I guess Vlad is affecting me. Might not be as active as before.

Niernen Wrote:LuvDWayULie; protecting the vocal people or role known people is what the doctor usually does, not really a need to to ask them to do it, and there were probably better ways to do it.

I was just thinking about how Shidoshi's powers were about investigating bugs, is it possible someone else would be able to fix them when they knew about the bugs? If this is a game, a possible bug could be there is no log out button. If Shidoshi had questioned about that, then maybe knowing that someone else would have been able to fix it and had a different kind of win? (probably not, but who knows).

I'm kind of regretting voting as the third person now because it made me look scummy, but someone had to do it with only an hour left. I guess we will see how today plays out, still plenty of time.

LuvDWayULie Wrote:Ah, I forgot to ask a question to you: What if you vote for someone else other than the person you are forced to vote?

Niernen Wrote:I can't. That would would break the pm I got. It didn't say anything about not following it, but I'm 100% sure that would get me contained automatically and I don't want that.

Olsi Wrote:Maspan theorized that meta is just playing us as usual. A permanent unable to talk ability and permanent unable to vote ability seems a little crazy. Im more inclined to believe meta and luv aren't being genuine about their restrictions. It just seems unlikely to me.

As for kyrastri's ability im interested in what will happen this time. As for the doctor business, the doctor should decide themselves who to protect.

faonkarino Wrote:

Do I even need to say anything? I was the second one to vote on him, by the way. If Shidoshi was alive, would he be suspicious to you as well? Following that logic, should I suspect you?

Well, anyway.

The day just started, I'm waiting for Chaz, Cakes and TheBirds contributions. ALTHOUGH TheBirds is not dumb. He knows posting in the manner he's posting would strike as scummy. He knows that voting at someone at the end of the day for no reason at all would strike as scummy. He's just doing that damned reverse psychology again. He could also be a vengeful who's certain of a target and would prefer acting by himself than actually calling out his suspicion. But on a game such as this, I don't think there would be a vengeful.

I still don't know what to think of this, but I'm almost voting on him. Almost.

I'm also surprised no one would actually compliment Kyra's post about Shidoshi. Nice post.

And why, WHY the hell would someone make Niernen vote on Chaz? If it was Mafia, Chaz was suspicious already. If who did it was a townie, did he simply think that Chaz is mafia and Niernen wouldn't vote on Chaz because since before Niernen thought Liable was mafia then Chaz would be townie? And what's even the point of a forced vote which we KNOW is forced? Could Niernen be faking? Although I wouldn't be surprised by yet another vote-altering ability since we know about LuvD's and Kyra's alterations.

I...

Ugh. I have to think harder and discover what's behind all this.

And excuse me for anything right now, I am very, very, very, very sleepy. Maybe I should have waited until I was in a more acceptable state. I don't know.

Goshdarmin.

Olsi Wrote:Maspan theorized that meta is just playing us as usual. A permanent unable to talk ability and permanent unable to vote ability seems a little crazy. Im more inclined to believe meta and luv aren't being genuine about their restrictions. It just seems unlikely to me.

Kyrastri Wrote:... Is it me, or has noon already passed

Proper post pending :3

ChaoticCJ Wrote:If Meta and Luv are not being genuine about their restrictions, then MasPan's restriction would also be unlikely, and they are all not being genuine. I am more inclined to believe them all because we have had similar roles in the past. It just makes sense to have an all or nothing style mafia. Also (to me) Shidoshi's ability hinted that there multiple people who have bugs. We have at least four people who have claimed some type of bug or restriction.

Niernen; : I usually go for a half active/semi-active mafia thought process in the early games. There is usually an active member of the discussion who manipulates the rest of us. Of those who voted to lynch, Liable you were one of the prime suspect at the time, although your explanation and your claim of restriction put most of the pressure off of you.

While I have no problems with a vote for Chaz, as an overkill of votes against Liable seems like people were protecting him, I will [vote]VerrKol;. Perhaps another perspective will bring more light to the situation.

Niernen Wrote:I totally see what your saying, there was an overkill, and that would make me look suspicious when I say I have a vote restriction because it does make it look like we are protecting Chaz. But I don't really see the point of such drastic or obvious measures so early, because that does look really scummy. I don't know what more I can say, as the only way to prove it would be to vote for Chaz. I think most of us were convinced by Shidoshi's reasoning as I stated before, but he is now contained.

Are you voting for Verrkol because you want to make him talk or because you think he has been scummy? Some people have not really talked much and it is at the halfway point. VerrKol; MetaSeraphim; TheBirds; Do you guys have anything else to add? Each of you has only posted once so far (unless I missed a post, which I apologize for).


Kyrastri; If your asking about your power, I'm sure xBTAx is just running behind because he did mention he would be busy today.

LuvDWayULie; Thats off-topic, not On-Topic. But I bet on Germany winning, so Hell Yes!

ChaoticCJ Wrote:If Meta and Luv are not being genuine about their restrictions, then MasPan's restriction would also be unlikely, and they are all not being genuine. I am more inclined to believe them all because we have had similar roles in the past. It just makes sense to have an all or nothing style mafia. Also (to me) Shidoshi's ability hinted that there multiple people who have bugs. We have at least four people who have claimed some type of bug or restriction.

Niernen; : I usually go for a half active/semi-active mafia thought process in the early games. There is usually an active member of the discussion who manipulates the rest of us. Of those who voted to lynch, Liable you were one of the prime suspect at the time, although your explanation and your claim of restriction put most of the pressure off of you.

While I have no problems with a vote for Chaz, as an overkill of votes against Liable seems like people were protecting him, I will [vote]VerrKol;. Perhaps another perspective will bring more light to the situation.

faonkarino Wrote:I totally wasn't expecting that :f6:

VerrKol doesn't feel to me like manipulating. From all the games I have participated this is the one he posted less, but oh well, it's still just one vote.

I'm gonna just go ahead and [Vote]The Birds. At the very least Chaz and Cakes said something today.

faonkarino Wrote:Do I even need to say anything? I was the second one to vote on him, by the way. If Shidoshi was alive, would he be suspicious to you as well? Following that logic, should I suspect you?

faonkarino Wrote:The day just started, I'm waiting for Chaz, Cakes and TheBirds contributions. ALTHOUGH TheBirds is not dumb. He knows posting in the manner he's posting would strike as scummy. He knows that voting at someone at the end of the day for no reason at all would strike as scummy. He's just doing that damned reverse psychology again. He could also be a vengeful who's certain of a target and would prefer acting by himself than actually calling out his suspicion. But on a game such as this, I don't think there would be a vengeful.

faonkarino Wrote:I'm also surprised no one would actually compliment Kyra's post about Shidoshi. Nice post.

faonkarino Wrote:Although I wouldn't be surprised by yet another vote-altering ability since we know about LuvD's and Kyra's alterations.

Niernen Wrote:Kyrastri; I didn't see the need to immediately jump out and reveal I had been forced to vote for Chaz, as the whole discussion would flow that way and there were other important things to talk about too. I was waiting for people to form some ideas about the previous day first, and didn't see the harm in waiting a few hours till more people were up. People were mentioning powers, blocks and voting, so I responded to that, but I was waiting till a bit later so we could get a bit more information. If I had voted for Chaz first thing, it would have been possible people did not believe me and I would have looked really scummy.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]I thought that Meta smelled of a rat,
But now he is trusted by the cat,
I'll give the dog a bone,
And leave Meta alone,
And hope that I live to regret that.

If mafia coerced Niernen;,
[vote]Chaz;, for he would seem free of sin.
It's a perfect disguise
To blend in with us guys
As a mafia agent within.

But perhaps Niernen is lying,
And Chaz should not be the one dying,
For now I trust neither,
And you should not either,
Unless someone can do some scrying.
[/COLOR]

Niernen Wrote:LuvDWayULie; Thats off-topic, not On-Topic. But I bet on Germany winning, so Hell Yes!

Niernen Wrote:MasPan; I didn't ask before because I was trying to defend myself, but what changed about Meta? You were pretty insistent early on that he was mafia, and then suddenly you switched around without explaining why. I get you would be suspicious of Chaz and me, but you never really said why you thought he was innocent now besides "he is trusted by the cat" (what cat?). Also, was that a vote for Chaz or were you just saying what I did? Don't want any misunderstandings


Also, Niernen does not rhyme with sin. the -en is like in ten, not tin.

LuvDWayULie Wrote:[EDIT]
meowmixx, IMO, you're getting quiet as well. I think you should talk more/post more actively. If not, you'll be increasingly suspicious.

*Yawns*, I'll be going to bed. Don't expect me to reply in the next 5-6 hours at least.