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Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - MasPan - 2014-06-18
[COLOR="#cc8899"]The night draws to a close, and immediately you all notice that the air reeks of the smell of bad cider. One of you finds a piece of stem impaled through a leaf. Another finds seeds rotten through months of extensive drinking. The conclusion is obvious - someone or something has killed [MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION];
MetaSeraphim Wrote:You are Barney Brewster, a cider apple used to create the ultimate in refreshingly crisp alcoholic beverages. You've been practicing since you were a sprout by absorbing as much alcohol as you can, and consequently spend each night drunk. Once per Night, starting on Night 1, you may send me a PM with [Visit]Target to drunkenly interfere with the target's night actions. You win if all threats to the town are eliminated.
As you're examining his scattered remains, though, occasional droplets splash down on the you all. Your first instinct is that it must be raining - looking up, however, the horrible reality of the situation becomes apparent. The droplets are apple juice, dripping from the scarce bits of flesh clinging to the core of what used to be [MENTION=8732]VerrKol[/MENTION];. You've seen violent killings, but this goes beyond - VerrKol had been eaten alive.
VerrKol Wrote:You are Sour Sheila, a Granny Smith Apple. You are a vigilante. You used to have an apple wife and two little sprouts, but the Bad Apples took them from you. You want nothing more than to inflict the same kind of hurt onto them. Starting on Night 2, and only once, you may declare a target during the Night to kill by sending me a PM with [Kill]Target in it. If a Bad Apple dies before you have used this power, you will lose it permanently. You win if all threats to the tree are eliminated.
It is now Day 3. Day 3 will end at appx. 3pm PST on the 20th (Thursday). I'd normally end it at noon PST but I have a date that morning and won't be home.
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Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - KhainiWest - 2014-06-18
I guess that means we have an inactive/non-existent doctor :| I have a few theories though based on the results. The sooner we hear from the other PM's the better.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Niernen - 2014-06-18
So two townapples killed in one night? And Meta was not a cop but could interfere with the mafia, so it looks like we still have a cop?
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - KhainiWest - 2014-06-18
Niernen Wrote:So two townapples killed in one night? And Meta was not a cop but could interfere with the mafia, so it looks like we still have a cop?
A few conclusions can be derived from this. First of all, two people killed? That means two mafia members, and maybe one forgot to do the tag, which means they are most likely on the same list as the non-responders.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Holypie - 2014-06-18
Or the doctor went for Olsi. Regardless, I was wondering how the hell Meta found the godmother. Now I know. God dammit Meta. I'm not sure how two deaths happened though, because since we lynched Words, VerrKol lost his power. This could be really bad if it's not a one off thing. But anyway onto the day. I got Olsi as innocent, so turns out the whole flavour cop thing was wrong. I guess it worked to deflect suspicion though so that's a plus. [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION] when you wake up can you tell us your result?
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Olsi - 2014-06-18
Niernen Wrote:So two townapples killed in one night? And Meta was not a cop but could interfere with the mafia, so it looks like we still have a cop?We apparently have two. Holypie and Kyra. Now we have to see who they investigated and what they got before we can really continue
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Holypie - 2014-06-18
KhainiWest Wrote:A few conclusions can be derived from this. First of all, two people killed? That means two mafia members, and maybe one forgot to do the tag, which means they are most likely on the same list as the non-responders.
This makes no sense, the mafia as a whole only gets one kill (barring special powers like xBTAx's last game), so it doesn't guarantee that there are two mafia members left. I have no idea what you mean about the tag and the non-responders list.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - KhainiWest - 2014-06-18
I already have my two suspects of who the final members are. Happy to let you guys know after I'm home.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Olsi - 2014-06-18
Holypie Wrote:Or the doctor went for Olsi. Regardless, I was wondering how the hell Meta found the godmother. Now I know. God dammit Meta. I'm not sure how two deaths happened though, because since we lynched Words, VerrKol lost his power. This could be really bad if it's not a one off thing. But anyway onto the day. I got Olsi as innocent, so turns out the whole flavour cop thing was wrong. I guess it worked to deflect suspicion though so that's a plus. Kyrastri when you wake up can you tell us your result?
(I believe if the vigilante visits someone who gets killed they die as well but dont quote me on that)
Aww jeez i really hope Kyrastri spent his
Edit: a word
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - faonkarino - 2014-06-18
This game was too easy to be true.
About Words, I'm not really surprised. Three (even two, actually) cops seemed way too much, besides some other smaller stuff, such as the verb to investigate he said he used. Once again, you guys fall too quickly for role claims. About his death,or there isn't a doctor, or the mafia won the WIFOM. I would bet there's no doctor though. Town already has (had) two cops (even if they're rather weak), a roleblocker and a rather weak Vigilante. Or the mafia is stronger than we might think.
Oh, wait. Maybe they killed VerrKol and spent a Strongman kill on Meta?
Although, from the flavor, it would make more sense if VerrKol got killed by a serial killer, which is symbolized by a hungry human or something.
GOSH, this is bad. I need to think more.
Well, before thinking some more and begin to point fingers, I'll wait for Kyra's post.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - KhainiWest - 2014-06-18
Considering Niernen actually has made 3 references too cannibalism earlier in the game, I think it's pretty obvious who did the eating.
I feel BTA is another possibility as words alluded to about 3 times in his post, but in a position that seems like an accusation but at the same time a brush over.
Words:]After rereading most posts, trying to get a general idea of what's going I'd like to know what'shear from Sega; Right now I'm thinking he's careless about everything, especially the inactivity rule and it bothers me. I'm more suspicious of Polantaris; though, I don't like it how he's suspicious of Holypie; while basically doing the same, saying he's being "thoughtful" with his vote and waiting to see what happens before doing anything. Not to mention that he's suspicious of him only after 2 people voted for him.
I also don't know how to feel about TheBirds;, KhainiWest;, MetaSeraphim; and to some extent xBTAx;. They have posted at least once but for BTA and Khaini only 1 of those posts talks about something relevant to this game... unless metagame is relevant, which I think just makes things confusing instead of being helpful. Can someone explain why someone would talk nonsense somewhat actively?
BTA was also the only one who was questioning whether we should vote for words.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - ChaoticCJ - 2014-06-18
If the town has a "revenge" killer, it may be possible that the mafia has one too since their leader is gone, but that doesn't take into account of the first day's kill against yoshi...
I wonder if we don't have a doctor and two vigilantes, one that was trying to protect me the first day and Kyrastri the second day?
If [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; doesn't have any interesting information it may come down to a game of suspicion. There are quite a few theories, hopefully we can narrow them down with the information we have and have coming in.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Polantaris - 2014-06-18
Olsi Wrote:(I believe if the vigilante visits someone who gets killed they die as well but dont quote me on that)
VerrKol's Role PM specifically states that if a Bad Apple is killed before he uses the ability, he loses it forever. Therefore, he could not possibly have done the second killing because his ability was lost when Words was lynched.
That means we have another killer. Possibly another vigilante. No idea. It's likely though that it was a one time thing, whatever it was, so probably won't have to worry about another one. Hopefully.
ChaoticCJ Wrote:If the town has a "revenge" killer, it may be possible that the mafia has one too since their leader is gone, but that doesn't take into account of the first day's kill against yoshi...
I wonder if we don't have a doctor and two vigilantes, one that was trying to protect me the first day and Kyrastri the second day?
The first day's kill was just a regular mafia night kill, I think.
I'm almost positive the doctor went to me for Night 1, for whatever reason. As I mentioned yesterday, my night PM for Night 1 was that someone visited me and healed a bruise on me. I can't imagine anything else except the doctor doing that. The doctor probably just chose the wrong cop to watch over last night. Technically had a 33% chance, so we can't really blame the doctor for that.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Niernen - 2014-06-18
KhainiWest Wrote:Considering Niernen actually has made 3 references too cannibalism earlier in the game, I think it's pretty obvious who did the eating.
I didn't realize I had made so many, but they were a joke. And to be fair, you did say you prefered fresh apple cider. Also, I don't think apples can eat other apples... didn't someone mention a crow earlier?
If Verrkol was eaten by something and Meta was killed by the mafia, it is possible there is a power or person that can eat other apples and is not part of the mafia?
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Shidoshi - 2014-06-18
Seems rather stupid that a 3rd party serial killer would give bread crumbs to his identity. What could he gain from doing so? Don't think Niernen is responsible for that kill just from his flavorful posts, which he also did on his first game.
Right now I'm on the road, gonna get more organized thoughts tomorrow when I arrive in Florianopolis.
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - CakesXD - 2014-06-18
Holypie Wrote:I was wondering how the hell Meta found the godmother. Now I know. God dammit Meta.
I was wondering that too.
In any case, this whole ordeal of two kills in one night is very unsettling. Definitely need some more information before I point a finger.
-patiently waits for [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION];-
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - Kyrastri - 2014-06-18
(Sorry >.< Woke up late today, so I'm actually panicking a little D: )
Last night I investigated [MENTION=6616]Olsi[/MENTION]; and was told that he was a good apple. I'm assuming that's innocent, so I think I'm a regular cop with no special sanity. Sorry Olsi; I didn't want to push things any further without confirming whether I'm sane or not ):
Don't be fooled into thinking there is no Doctor; like Polantaris, I was visited last night. Unless this is a different skill entirely.
I'll be posting theory when I get to school, unless I disprove myself on the way there.
(Irrelevant, but waking up to 5 notifications make me feel fuzzy inside OTL)
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - xBTAx - 2014-06-18
KhainiWest Wrote:BTA was also the only one who was questioning whether we should vote for words.
Yeah, if "questioning" means "stated that I planned to vote for him on Day 1". Or are you referring to when I said I'd vote for him but didn't want us to reach majority yet? Literally the only person I've said I'd vote for instead of Words was Polantaris day 1, and even then I said it was between him and Words. Is this bad memory, bad reading comprehension, or are you trying to pull something?
Regardless, it's interesting that both cops got a reading of town. That might mean one's random, as it seems strange to have two normal cops, but it could just be accounting for powerful neutrals/mafia...
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - LuvDWayULie - 2014-06-18
Niernen Wrote:I didn't realize I had made so many, but they were a joke. And to be fair, you did say you prefered fresh apple cider. Also, I don't think apples can eat other apples... didn't someone mention a crow earlier?I did, while talking to Kyrastri.
If Verrkol was eaten by something and Meta was killed by the mafia, it is possible there is a power or person that can eat other apples and is not part of the mafia?
So, two mafias huh? I actually think that as someone might have said earlier, that one of the cops is a mafia cop.
So, I have Holypie and Kyrastri as my suspects for now, will continue later. I have class at 8am (1 hour from now)
Bad Apple Mafia - Mafia Victory - KhainiWest - 2014-06-18
bta Wrote:and I also think it's far too early to judge Words' sincerity. I kinda agree with Words' opinion of Polantaris as well. I want to hear more from Polantaris first, but if we're going to vote today, I'm leaning towards Polantaris or maybe Words.
'll say that given that voting for Polantaris wouldn't have done anything, at that point I probably would've voted for Words.
I don't really find those suitable arguments, more like consideration to throw off someones suspect, plus your vote for words was not at all filled with reason, just "whatever, doesn't matter". It comes off to me that (especially the 4 times he brought you up as a "possible yet not priority" candidate seems too much of a coincidence to me.
Apparently the doctor protected Kyristra, which was what I wanted, but then they both blew it and didn't expand our fog of war. Now we're definitely f`ucked and have to focus on preserving whoever the f`uck the doctor is which is just another shot in the goddamn dark for them that they can do. I'm so annoyed no one listened to me so I'm no longer going to bother putting in any input as they frekin blew it. In fact I find it kind of questionable to begin with that holypie literally disregarded all of my logic just to go with a method to "clarify" something, and waste two townies lives based on that. For that reason I'm voting now because I'm so frekin annoyed with such blatant disregard, in fact, intentional sabotage of the only big turn around we had left.