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GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:Those are totally the worst.

Hey, I created a kick ass server checker, that ran off your website in an iframe.

For some reason it just broke... I think you may have had blocked iframes from viewing?


http://fiddle.jshell.net/HY7m7/

http://fiddle.jshell.net/HY7m7/show/light


It's really awesome because, it has auto-refresh, refresh, disable refresh.


The iframe works with all websites that don't block iframes, and it used to work, but now it doesn't.



Thanks,


Zakar


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Justin - 2012-02-25

Because we all really need people having personalized versions of this to keep pounding on the servers, right?


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:It's really awesome because, it has auto-refresh, refresh, disable refresh.

Why thank you for creating something that steals my content and jeapordizes my adsense account by violating their TOS.
Sure, I'll get right on opening that back up so you can rape me some more. Or not.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:Why thank you for creating something that steals my content and jeapordizes my adsense account by violating their TOS.
Sure, I'll get right on opening that back up so you can rape me some more. Or not.
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Do you not get money for the ads if its viewed through an iframe? I don't see how that would be against the rules.


And secondly I did give your website proper credit, look in the about.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Do you not get money for the ads if its viewed through an iframe? I don't see how that would be against the rules.

Auto refresh violates the terms of service. If I'd wanted one and been able to do one it would've already had it, since you're not the first person to come up with such a novel idea. A very simple google search will show that gets your account terminated by them quite quickly, and judging by my earnings for the last two months, I'm guessing that's how long you've had this up because both months they invalidated nearly a quarter of my revenue as illegitimate.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - maplefreak26 - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:I don't understand what you are trying to say. Do you not get money for the ads if its viewed through an iframe? I don't see how that would be against the rules.


And secondly I did give your website proper credit, look in the about.

You are making Southperry fucking over AdSense's Guidelines (which are the rules).

And it wouldn't matter if you did give him credit, you are breaking the rules.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

maplefreak26 Wrote:And it wouldn't matter if you did give him credit, you are breaking the rules.

And costing me money, since I would've actually gotten paid for that traffic had it been direct, instead I bleed the bandwidth and resources for free, and risked my account entirely.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:Auto refresh violates the terms of service. A very simple google search will show that gets your account terminated by them quite quickly, and judging by my earnings for the last two months, I'm guessing that's how long you've had this up because both months they invalidated nearly a quarter of my revenue as illegitimate.
1. I can limit the lowest amount of time to auto refresh if you would like.
2. Only I used the server checker. There wasn't a ton of people using it.
Maybe one other guy, and he doesn't even play MS, so I doubt he used it often.


I've had that server checker in total running for about an hour, at TOTAL. Theirs no reason for that to take "Nearly a quarter of your revenues".


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - maplefreak26 - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:I can limit the lowest amount of time to auto refresh if you would like.

It wouldn't matter. Like Eos said, you are eating up all his bandwidth space and any kind of automated refresh is breaking AdSense's guidelines.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:1. I can limit the lowest amount of time to auto refresh if you would like.
2. Only I used the server checker. There wasn't a ton of people using it.
Maybe one other guy, and he doesn't even play MS, so I doubt he used it often.

I've had that server checker in total running for about an hour, at TOTAL. Theirs no reason for that to take "Nearly a quarter of your revenues".

Auto refresh period is a no no, and it might not have been you that was the chief abuser, but enough sites were doing the same thing for some idiotic reason or other to make this a necessary change.

If you're the only one using it, why not just use the site itself? :f6:
How hard is it to have my window up, instead of your window up, if they're both going to the exact same place and doing approximately the same thing.
Not like every browser in the known universe doesn't have an auto refresh option either built in, or available via extension at this point, and those oddly enough are considered legit.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Mazz - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:1. I can limit the lowest amount of time to auto refresh if you would like.
2. Only I used the server checker. There wasn't a ton of people using it.
Maybe one other guy, and he doesn't even play MS, so I doubt he used it often.


I've had that server checker in total running for about an hour, at TOTAL. Theirs no reason for that to take "Nearly a quarter of your revenues".

Pretty sure any auto-refresh system is a violation of the ToS, since every page reload with ads enabled will generate some revenue. If you can set a page up to auto refresh you can trick the system into thinking loads of people have visited the page, resulting in more money from AdSense that isn't deserved. Same reason as to why YouTube accounts get removed for clickbombing if they're partnered/monetised.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - maplefreak26 - 2012-02-25

Google Adsense TOS Wrote:5. Prohibited Uses. You shall not, and shall not authorize or encourage any third party to: (i) directly or indirectly generate queries, Referral Events, or impressions of or clicks on any Ad, Link, Search Result, or Referral Button (including without limitation by clicking on “play” for any video Ad) through any automated, deceptive, fraudulent or other invalid means, including but not limited to through repeated manual clicks, the use of robots or other automated query tools and/or computer generated search requests, and/or the unauthorized use of other search engine optimization services and/or software; (ii) edit, modify, filter, truncate or change the order of the information contained in any Ad, Link, Ad Unit, Search Result, or Referral Button, or remove, obscure or minimize any Ad, Link, Ad Unit, Search Result, or Referral Button in any way without authorization from Google; (iii) frame, minimize, remove or otherwise inhibit the full and complete display of any Web page accessed by an end user after clicking on any part of an Ad ("Advertiser Page"), any Search Results Page, or any Referral Page; (iv) redirect an end user away from any Advertiser Page, Search Results Page, or Referral Page; provide a version of the Advertiser Page, Search Results Page, or Referral Page that is different from the page an end user would access by going directly to the Advertiser Page, Search Results Page, or Referral Page; intersperse any content between the Ad and the Advertiser Page, between the page containing the Search Box and the Search Results Page, or between the Referral Button and the Referral Page; or otherwise provide anything other than a direct link from an Ad to an Advertiser Page, from the page containing the Search Box to the Search Results Page, or from the Referral Button to the Referral Page; (v) display any Ad(s), Link(s), or Referral Button(s) on any Web page or any Web site that contains any pornographic, hate-related, violent, or illegal content; (vi) directly or indirectly access, launch, and/or activate Ads, Links, Search Results, or Referral Buttons through or from, or otherwise incorporate the Ads, Links, Search Results, or Referral Buttons in, any software application, Web site, or other means other than Your Property(ies), and then only to the extent expressly permitted by this Agreement; (vii) "crawl", "spider", index or in any non-transitory manner store or cache information obtained from any Ads, Links, Search Results, or Referral Events, or any part, copy, or derivative thereto; (viii) act in any way that violates any Program Policies posted on the Google Web Site, as may be revised from time to time, or any other agreement between You and Google (including without limitation the Google AdWords program terms); (ix) disseminate malware; (x) create a new account to use the Program after Google has terminated this Agreement with You as a result of your breach of this Agreement; or (xi) engage in any action or practice that reflects poorly on Google or otherwise disparages or devalues Google’s reputation or goodwill. You acknowledge that any attempted participation or violation of any of the foregoing is a material breach of this Agreement and that we may pursue any and all applicable legal and equitable remedies against You, including an immediate suspension of Your account or termination of this Agreement, and the pursuit of all available civil or criminal remedies.
https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:Auto refresh period is a no no, and it might not have been you that was the chief abuser, but enough sites were doing the same thing for some idiotic reason or other to make this a necessary change.

If you're the only one using it, why not just use the site itself? :f6:
How hard is it to have my window up, instead of your window up, if they're both going to the exact same place and doing approximately the same thing.
Not like every browser in the known universe doesn't have an auto refresh option either built in, or available via extension at this point, and those oddly enough are considered legit.
I like to code, and it was kick ass!
Some other guy made one for an .exe, (which btw wasn't used often either) and I had a little competition with him, telling him, that I could have a better one, in JS.

And it was. Also if I auto-refreshed in the browser, wouldn't that have the same effect?


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:And it was. Also if I auto-refreshed in the browser, wouldn't that have the same effect?

Not to them. You'd have to ask them why, but most likely because the end user choosing to do it is rather different than the site forcing it on them.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:Not to them. You'd have to ask them why, but most likely because the end user choosing to do it is rather different than the site forcing it on them.

Well I'm sorry if your/my GMS Status Checker, affected your profits.


I'll miss my checker.


R.I.P...


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:Well I'm sorry if your/my GMS Status Checker, affected your profits.

I'm sorry your good intentions didn't go the way you hoped.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Zakar - 2012-02-25

Eos Wrote:I'm sorry your good intentions didn't go the way you hoped.

Do I detect... Sarcasm?


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

Zakar Wrote:Do I detect... Sarcasm?

Only if you're bringing it.


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - SaptaZapta - 2012-02-25

Totally unrelated question: are maplefreak26 and Mazz's last few posts in this thread in violation of the "White Knight" rule?


GMS Server Status Discussion < 2012-04-01 - Eos - 2012-02-25

SaptaZapta Wrote:Totally unrelated question: are maplefreak26 and Mazz's last few posts in this thread in violation of the "White Knight" rule?

You left out the "if it existed yet" clause.

And no. They're not trying to defend me. They're replying to the present course of the conversation and not making it about "me".