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Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - XTOTHEL - 2012-09-24

The G75VW and G55VW almost weigh the same, one's 8.7lb the other is 8.5lb

They both look to be the same except screen sizes.

Review here: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6483&review=asus+g75vw+gaming+notebook


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FabledGumbo - 2012-09-24

I'm looking into putting together a desktop this November and came up with this:


it's a little more expensive than I'd like right now, but I could probably go a little bit in either direction if given a good reason to.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - XTOTHEL - 2012-09-24

FabledGumbo Wrote:I'm looking into putting together a desktop this November and came up with this:


it's a little more expensive than I'd like right now, but I could probably go a little bit in either direction if given a good reason to.

I see places where you can shave $$$

SSD: only get one, 256GB and get Crucial M4 or an Intel one for reliability. I personally have a OCZ Vertex 4, 5 year warranty...why not.

HDD: get a western green, you don't need black for storage. Also note important data (photos, docs, etc) should be backed up, not just stored on a large harddrive, it should usually be used for downloaded movies/music easily replaceable things in case of failure.

Never used a aftermarket CPU cooler, never had the need to.

You can probably find better deal for mouse and keyboard if they were purchased together or at a local store. For gaming though, steels series make some nice stuff.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FabledGumbo - 2012-09-24

XTOTHEL Wrote:I see places where you can shave $$$

SSD: only get one, 256GB and get Crucial M4 or an Intel one for reliability. I personally have a OCZ Vertex 4, 5 year warranty...why not.

HDD: get a western green, you don't need black for storage. Also note important data (photos, docs, etc) should be backed up, not just stored on a large harddrive, it should usually be used for downloaded movies/music easily replaceable things in case of failure.

Never used a aftermarket CPU cooler, never had the need to.

You can probably find better deal for mouse and keyboard if they were purchased together or at a local store. For gaming though, steels series make some nice stuff.

The reason I got 2 SSD's is because I intended to put one of them in my existing desktop that didn't have one and I didn't feel like doing a separate order. I'm not set on Mushkin in particular, but I heard they were a good buy and they're considerably cheaper than any other drives of their speed/size. Assuming that one and the Intel one even out in price again, I'll go with Intel in spite of the difference on benchmarks for the security that they probably aren't gonna send me a dead drive. That was sort of the same reasoning behind a caviar black, but if you think a caviar green is just as likely to arrive on my doorstep without bad sectors/DOA, I can certainly go with that instead.

I probably don't need a fancy CPU heatsink, but the i7 in my desktop idles in the mid 40s at base clock and idles mid 60s when overclocked to 3.8ghz even with the fancy liquid cooling heatsink I've got in it. My current desktop is still pretty capable of running everything I throw at it, I just can't deal with how hot it makes my room when it does; that's a big reason behind the video card I chose, too. I also don't know if I'm going to need to overclock the processor or not, but I figure I'll get more performance out of overclocking with a $45 heatsink than I would with paying an extra $100 for a processor.

The mouse and keyboard is just me being a Logitech fanboy. I wanted a MX518, but I guess that's been discontinued. Frown Pretty much exactly what happened with me last time when I wanted a g5 and that got replaced with the g500 (which is the current mouse I'm using with my desktop). If I'm feeling adventurous I could shave off $10 or so by replacing the G500 with a G400 (the new MX518 replacement).


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Devil - 2012-09-24

FabledGumbo Wrote:I'm looking into putting together a desktop this November and came up with this:


it's a little more expensive than I'd like right now, but I could probably go a little bit in either direction if given a good reason to.
- Case => Get a CoolerMaster Silencio 650/550 or Corsairs Obsidian 550D. Both are the best silent cases available at this moment.
- Cooler => If you're going for zalman, take this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074
- Memory => Get either Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 2x 8GB (CML16GX3M2A1600C10) or G.Skill Ares Low Profile 2x 8GB (F3-1600C10D-16GAO) You need Low Profile RAM otherwise it doesn't fit with your CPU Cooler. Wink
- Motherboard => Sabertooth? Just get a normal Asus Z77, unless you're going for the aesthetics of the Sabertooth. Performance is the same, price is a LOT lower.
- Videocard => Get a brand-new Nvidia 660 Ti (Asus) for that money, higher performance a lot cooler and thus, less noise.
- PSU => That Corsair PSU is overkill unless you're going SLI or even Triple SLI.
- SDD => Wait for the brand-new Samsung 840 256GB - Beats all current SSD's.
- Harddisk => Get either a Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003, 2TB or a Western Digital Green WD20EARX, 2TB. SSD = Performance, Harddisk = Storage.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FabledGumbo - 2012-09-24

Devil Wrote:- Case => Get a CoolerMaster Silencio 650/550 or Corsairs Obsidian 550D. Both are the best silent cases available at this moment.
- Cooler => If you're going for zalman, take this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118074
- Memory => Get either Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 2x 8GB (CML16GX3M2A1600C10) or G.Skill Ares Low Profile 2x 8GB (F3-1600C10D-16GAO) You need Low Profile RAM otherwise it doesn't fit with your CPU Cooler. Wink
- Motherboard => Sabertooth? Just get a normal Asus Z77, unless you're going for the aesthetics of the Sabertooth. Performance is the same, price is a LOT lower.
- Videocard => Get a brand-new Nvidia 660 Ti (Asus) for that money, higher performance a lot cooler and thus, less noise.
- PSU => That Corsair PSU is overkill unless you're going SLI or even Triple SLI.
- SDD => Wait for the brand-new Samsung 840 256GB - Beats all current SSD's.
- Harddisk => Get either a Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003, 2TB or a Western Digital Green WD20EARX, 2TB. SSD = Performance, Harddisk = Storage.

I like that Corsair case, but it seems like it wouldn't be quiet once you finished adding all those optional fans, plus it'd be pretty expensive once you factor in the additional cost of choosing it over the Antec and the additional fans. What would you recommend in terms of optional fans?

I'm kinda iffy on the cooler in general. I haven't actually assembled a PC prior to this so I'm a little shaky on scraping off the old thermal paste, applying new thermal paste and mounting everything correctly. The fact that it's gonna have issues fitting is just one more thing.

I definitely don't have any attachments to that motherboard in particular and I'm all in favor of getting the cheaper one; motherboards are one of those things I don't know much about. Assuming I switch motherboards will I still need the low profile ram to accommodate the heatsink if I decide to get one?

I can't really see any definitive evidence one way or the other on one video card being better than the other, but the 7870 is about $50 cheaper and the model in particular I picked has 3 fans, meaning it should stay cool and quiet even a lower speeds.

I'm not very knowledgeable about power supplies, so I can definitely go with a 650 or 550 watt one instead if you think that's suitable and have a decent one in mind. I just figured the price difference wouldn't be that big.

Not sure if you saw my point or not in the other post about why I wanted 2 SSDs instead of 1 256gb, but if I change my mind about getting an SSD for my existing desktop I could certainly go with that 256gb one instead. I'm under the impression that the real world performance difference between any two SSDs is pretty negligible, though.

Hard drive's pretty much the same thing, I just figured by buying a more expensive one I would be less likely to get something dead on arrival. I really don't need one for performance and I don't really need storage, so I could probably go as low as 500gb and still be perfectly fine. I'll be sure to switch to something cheaper for the final build.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Five Second Pose - 2012-09-25

XTOTHEL Wrote:The G75VW and G55VW almost weigh the same, one's 8.7lb the other is 8.5lb

They both look to be the same except screen sizes.

Review here: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6483&review=asus+g75vw+gaming+notebook

I was talking about Corn's old laptop and my current one. Rolleyes


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Devil - 2012-09-25

FabledGumbo Wrote:I like that Corsair case, but it seems like it wouldn't be quiet once you finished adding all those optional fans, plus it'd be pretty expensive once you factor in the additional cost of choosing it over the Antec and the additional fans. What would you recommend in terms of optional fans?
No no, the Corsair case is REALLY a lot quieter, since it's specially designed to quiet noise down (sound absorbing material, etc). A PC case like this can last about 10 years, and last several PC upgrades in the years ahead, so don't save on that one.

Noise dampening of the Obsidian 550D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59tSalJy_Q Impressive (Notice the Triple SLI cards)! Big Grin

And about optional case fans, Corsair adds enough case fans with the stock case, it's all about taking the heat OUT (outtake fans), you don't really need intake fans unless you're going extremely advanced with 8 harrdisks in a RAID array and triple SLI. The air will come in naturally without the addition of intake fans. A PSU = outtake + 1 extra outtake fan on the rear (corsair already build one in) is more then enough and makes it nice and quiet.

Quote:I'm kinda iffy on the cooler in general. I haven't actually assembled a PC prior to this so I'm a little shaky on scraping off the old thermal paste, applying new thermal paste and mounting everything correctly. The fact that it's gonna have issues fitting is just one more thing.
Getting the old thermal paste of isn't that hard, just take your time and watch some tutorials on youtube. Wink

Also, with adding the thermal paste, don't add too much, enough is enough, thermal paste =/= COOLING paste, all it does is transfer the heat from 1 surface to the other extremely well, and too much paste actually lowers the heat transfer. But again, look at some youtube video tutorials for this one, its not that hard, especially with arctic silver 5, which is in my opinion the best paste out there since it's not that "liquid" like other paste out there. Just apply paste to the top of CPU only, just enough so you can't see the shiny metal headspreader anymore, just make sure to wash your hands carefully afterwards, because silver "paint" with micro silver particles on/in your clothes is not that easy to wash out. Wink

Quote:I definitely don't have any attachments to that motherboard in particular and I'm all in favor of getting the cheaper one; motherboards are one of those things I don't know much about. Assuming I switch motherboards will I still need the low profile ram to accommodate the heatsink if I decide to get one?
The need of low profile RAM is always present if you're choosing for a non-stock cooler. Stock coolers are terrible with noise on high cpu load. Aftermarket coolers are designed with large fans and large heatsinks which leave only space for low-profile RAM.

Regarding the motherboard, a Asus P8Z77-V LX will do fine for you, since it has all the basics you need (SATA-600, USB3.0, etc) and still is high-end Asus quality. Smile

Quote:I can't really see any definitive evidence one way or the other on one video card being better than the other, but the 7870 is about $50 cheaper and the model in particular I picked has 3 fans, meaning it should stay cool and quiet even a lower speeds.
Always use this as reference: http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu (uncheck DX9/10 and Laptop).
- Nvidia 660 Ti => 8560 points
- Nvidia 660 => 6807 points (not implemented yet, taken from a good review site)
- AMD 7870 => 6780 points

Also, more fans =/= cooler and more quiet. The new 660 Ti is designed on a new ultra small GPU-Core technique which results is a LOT lower power consumption then the AMD one, and combining that with the asus ultra quiet double fan cooler, it's the better thing to choose.

You could also choose the Asus 660 (non-Ti) for saving money, while having the same performance as the 7870 but a LOT quieter. Wink

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660

Quote:I'm not very knowledgeable about power supplies, so I can definitely go with a 650 or 550 watt one instead if you think that's suitable and have a decent one in mind. I just figured the price difference wouldn't be that big.
Well it's not nessesary that you go down with the watts, just don't get a very expensive Corsair PSU if you're aiming for a normal PC without Triple SLI and 8 harddisks. 750watt is a good aiming point.

What about this one, COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M700 700Watt:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037

Quote:Not sure if you saw my point or not in the other post about why I wanted 2 SSDs instead of 1 256gb, but if I change my mind about getting an SSD for my existing desktop I could certainly go with that 256gb one instead. I'm under the impression that the real world performance difference between any two SSDs is pretty negligible, though.
Yeah I missed that post of the 2 separate SSD's. Well Samsung also has 128GB models, but choose the brand-new 840 series for extreme performance. And yes, there is still quite an increase of speed with the new SSD-technology each new generation, unlike old harddisks. Wink

Quote:Hard drive's pretty much the same thing, I just figured by buying a more expensive one I would be less likely to get something dead on arrival. I really don't need one for performance and I don't really need storage, so I could probably go as low as 500gb and still be perfectly fine. I'll be sure to switch to something cheaper for the final build.
Expensive harddisk =/= fail proof. In fact, green harddisks are in theory more durable then "power" harddisks, because their internal timings aren't as strict.

Just get a 1GB version of the Seagate Green / Western Digital Green then. 500GB models aren't even made anymore I think. Wink


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FabledGumbo - 2012-09-25

Looks good for the most part, I'm just a little wary of that alternative PSU you linked because it apparently has some over-volt issues and I don't wanna fry a whole PC because I cheaped out on the power supply. I'll put up a new wishlist with a revised build once I get a little closer to actually ordering something.

EDIT: This power supply looks good, any thoughts? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-182-263&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=3&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29#scrollFullInfo


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Devil - 2012-09-25

FabledGumbo Wrote:Looks good for the most part, I'm just a little wary of that alternative PSU you linked because it apparently has some over-volt issues and I don't wanna fry a whole PC because I cheaped out on the power supply. I'll put up a new wishlist with a revised build once I get a little closer to actually ordering something.

EDIT: This power supply looks good, any thoughts? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-182-263&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=3&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29#scrollFullInfo
Every good motherboard (A-brand) can handle +/- 10% voltage without any problem.

The problems start at consistent undervoltage (non enough power) or irregular voltages that go up and down.

Found a new PSU, another Corsair 750watt, but less pricy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139030&Tpk=Corsair%20Enthusiast%20TX750M

Your other PSU seems fine also btw! Wink


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Five Second Pose - 2012-09-29

preface : HEADSETS ARE COMPUTER PARTS TO ME OK ;_;

Ok, either this or this MAN WHAT BUY


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Devil - 2012-10-01

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:preface : HEADSETS ARE COMPUTER PARTS TO ME OK ;_;

Ok, either this or this MAN WHAT BUY
Never get headsets with synthetic spongy earfoam. Unless you like the feeling of having 2 plasic sponges on your ears for hours on a row! Eek

On sound quality:
Every headset sounds different, every person likes another sound "color". So if you have the chance to test it in a store first, test some to compare before you buy! Smile

On general sound quality, if you want to use it for listening to music:
-> 40- dollar / euro = meh sound
-> +/- 50 dollar / euro = ok sound
-> +/- 100 dollar / euro = good sound
-> 150+ dollar / euro = excellent sound


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Sega - 2012-10-03

Looking to upgrade my graphics card and power supply unit.

Current Specs

Seems like there isn't much room in the case though....http://imgur.com/a/Oxjac


Nothing too expensive. at most ~200$. I'm using a 21 inch monitor, I'd like to be able to play things at okay settings at 1920x1080.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Devil - 2012-10-08

Moldyvort Wrote:Looking to upgrade my graphics card and power supply unit.

Current Specs

Seems like there isn't much room in the case though....http://imgur.com/a/Oxjac


Nothing too expensive. at most ~200$. I'm using a 21 inch monitor, I'd like to be able to play things at okay settings at 1920x1080.
Hmmm the 300watt PSU is the bottleneck here...

Best videocard (Asus Nvidia GTX 660) you could add, if the PSU can handle it: $230,-
Nvidia GTX 660: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660

Cheapest 500watt 80Plus certified PSU possible: $30,-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159124

Cheapest Corsair quality 430watt PSU possible: $45,-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

If that is too expensive for you atm, save some money and build a whole new PC when you have the money for it. Wink


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Tikey - 2012-10-15

Sup guys. My desktop just died on me, so I'm looking to build a new tower from the ground up. I'm planning to upgrade again on Black Friday. I just need a fairly decent tower until then.

What is your current budget?:
$500

What parts are in your current computer? Be as specific as possible. Links to Newegg/Tigerdirect are best.
These are the parts I'm able to transfer over, so they have fairly low priority on my buy list.

Diablotek DA Series PSDA500 500W ATX Power Supply
XFX HD-485X-ZNFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
ADATA XPG Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FabledGumbo - 2012-10-29

Alright, I updated my build http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15490209&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4003003&SID=ljriqpqqe9ny

Everything look good? There's no RAM listed since the motherboard I picked comes with 8 gigs of RAM that should hopefully work with the rest of the build. Assuming everything's fine I'll probably order everything this weekend.

EDIT: Looks like the motherboard stopped coming with free RAM, so I added some low profile ram to the build.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dystopiq - 2012-11-08

Protip: If you're wanting to do some actual gaming on a PC, be ready to invest at least $700 on parts (Desktop), otherwise you'll end up with subpar performance in comparison to a console. PC gaming is not a cheap hobby by any means.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Zelkova - 2012-11-16

I'm building a linux server for Minecraft/TF2 server hosting. I plan on hosting probably 2-3 MC servers, and 1 TF2 server at any given time.

The parts I have chosen might work, let me know what you feel would be a better replacement.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks


CPU: AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master DK9-7E52A-0L-GP CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($65.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 50GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 50GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 342 (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case w/400W Power Supply ($49.77 @ NCIX US)
Total: $397.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-11-16 16:04 EST-0500)


I have 2 SSD's because I would like to put the OS on 1, and my servers on another. I might just put a 7200RPM HDD or the OS, I haven't decided yet.

I have chosen an ASRock Mobo because I am quite partial to them. They make a good product.

On a different note, I have my first test server up (testing my linux knowledge...)

http://puu.sh/1r68R.jpg


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - SunYanZi - 2012-11-26

Dystopiq Wrote:Protip: If you're wanting to do some actual gaming on a PC, be ready to invest at least $700 on parts (Desktop), otherwise you'll end up with subpar performance in comparison to a console. PC gaming is not a cheap hobby by any means.

700? More than that buddy.


Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Takebacker - 2012-11-26

SunYanZi Wrote:700? More than that buddy.

When? A year ago?

My $700 asus U31S (1.5ish yr old by model, 1 yr old by relativity) is probably more than capable of playing SC2 or LoL. Providing a realistic estimate requires we know what games we're even talking about anyway. PC gaming has never been a cheap hobby, but it's certainly becoming easier and easier to manage high level games without really high end hardware.