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[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Chameleonic - 2010-07-08
Alilatias Wrote:EDIT: OH SHI- I JUST GOT AN IMAGE.
wtp HAPPENED TO HURRICANE?
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=job_bowman&no=11454
lol that looks like Pierce Arrows (or is Snipe, I havent been able to play my MM for so long
)they are shooting.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Link - 2010-07-08
ACTUALLY, it looks like Final Attack works with Hurricane. I Google Translated it and it said someting about Final Attack, so I'm assuming that's the case. Let's hope someone actually translates it, though.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Phoenix - 2010-07-08
Chameleonic Wrote:lol that looks like Pierce Arrows (or is Snipe, I havent been able to play my MM for so long
Maybe the fancy arrows are the arrows that break through defence.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Cyanne - 2010-07-08
They do look like final attack arrows, they're definitely not regular soul arrows, pierce arrows, or snipe arrows.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Chameleonic - 2010-07-08
Phoenix Wrote:Maybe the fancy arrows are the arrows that break through defence.
Yeah could be new animation for FA or that.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Kakashi - 2010-07-08
Berserk is 140x4=560%
560x1.6=896% crusher with Dark Force.
Brave Slash is 210x3=610%
610x2=1220% BS with fully charged combo.
BS is also much faster than Crusher.
Wasn't this all supposed to balance classes? Even with critical it's not even close. Beholder's Revenge is garbage, and that 1220 gets a x1.6 increase with Enrage.
Am I missing something here?
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-07-08
I guess BMs may rejoice, Hurricane that works with FA trumps damn near everything as far as 1v1 DPS goes, probably still better than MM, close to or past NL, and close to or just below 'sair. Of course I have no math to back this up, but it's my best guess
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - CarrionCrow - 2010-07-08
Kakashi Wrote:Am I missing something here?
Well DrKs got way more mastery and better crit than heroes. I don't know if that will make em on par, but I would at least hope so.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-07-08
Kakashi Wrote:Berserk is 140x4=560%
560x1.6=896% crusher with Dark Force.
Brave Slash is 210x3=610%
610x2=1220% BS with fully charged combo.
BS is also much faster than Crusher.
Wasn't this all supposed to balance classes? Even with critical it's not even close. Beholder's Revenge is garbage, and that 1220 gets a x1.6 increase with Enrage.
Am I missing something here?
Spears/polearms have a much higher multiplier than swords/axes, I thought.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Random_Overlord - 2010-07-08
Alilatias Wrote:Yeah, I just found this image.
Epic Hurricane?
Translation of the text in this thread, please?
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=job_bowman&no=11454
lol Chameleonic got my edit of my previous post >_>
![[Image: Hurricane.jpg]](http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww160/Alilatias/For%20SouthPerry/Hurricane.jpg)
Does this mean I was right?!?!?!?
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:I guess BMs may rejoice, Hurricane that works with FA trumps damn near everything as far as 1v1 DPS goes, probably still better than MM, close to or past NL, and close to or just below 'sair. Of course I have no math to back this up, but it's my best guess
That might be an animation glitch. See how there are arrows along side each shot? How the hell does 40% happen that many times in a row like that?
It's probably an animation glitch due to the supposed 0.060 delay.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Tamillan - 2010-07-08
Does hero have a 1.2 or 1.25x multiplier stacking with enrage and combo?
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - vx-2 - 2010-07-08
Alilatias Wrote:Yeah, I just found this image.
Epic Hurricane?
Translation of the text in this thread, please?
http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=job_bowman&no=11454
lol Chameleonic got my edit of my previous post >_>
I'm not sure if you guys noticed it properly, there are actually 3 types of arrows, I'm assuming Hurricane + Final Attack/ Mortal Blow + Vengeance/ Mortal Blow?
The thinner arrow is definitely hurricane. The thicker could be either FA or mortal Blow, Mortal Blow used to be the thicker animation ones, while the piece arrow lookalike shud be vengeance?
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Kakashi - 2010-07-08
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Spears/polearms have a much higher multiplier than swords/axes, I thought.
It not much higher. I believe 2h sword is around 1.27 and polearm/spears are 1.4x. That difference probably doesn't even cover the speed difference, let alone the 200% difference.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-07-08
Kakashi Wrote:It not much higher. I believe 2h sword is around 1.27 and polearm/spears are 1.4x. That difference probably doesn't even cover the speed difference, let alone the 200% difference.
Oh okay, my bad. Yeah it looks like DrK 1v1 doesn't even hold a candle to hero's dps, but, those %'s don't take into consideration DrK's superior critting abilities
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Phoenix - 2010-07-08
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Oh okay, my bad. Yeah it looks like DrK 1v1 doesn't even hold a candle to hero's dps, but, those %'s don't take into consideration DrK's superior critting abilities
Actually I think it's more like the 1v2-3 dps that suffers vs heroes. 1 on 1 they have Sacrifice at least which is stronger than Crusher (without Crits) and ignores defence, and I think pretty fast?
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Kalovale - 2010-07-08
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Oh okay, my bad. Yeah it looks like DrK 1v1 doesn't even hold a candle to hero's dps, but, those %'s don't take into consideration DrK's superior critting abilities
Please, Crit adds.. what? 80% dmg for Drks, while at bossing everyone will be hitting the CritDamage cap with SE. 30% damage bonus? Okay.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Phoenix - 2010-07-08
Kalovale Wrote:Please, Crit adds.. what? 80% dmg for Drks, while at bossing everyone will be hitting the CritDamage cap with SE. 30% damage bonus? Okay.
Wait what, I thought crits were still a mystery.
And after seeing 100k+ critical SR's from a bishop, it's hard to beleive it's capped.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Lasten - 2010-07-08
vx-2 Wrote:I'm not sure if you guys noticed it properly, there are actually 3 types of arrows, I'm assuming Hurricane + Final Attack/ Mortal Blow + Vengeance/ Mortal Blow?
The thinner arrow is definitely hurricane. The thicker could be either FA or mortal Blow, Mortal Blow used to be the thicker animation ones, while the piece arrow lookalike shud be vengeance?
There are definitely only 2 types of arrows shown in the screenshot.
I can tell from experience that the thinner Arrows are from Hurricane itself and the thicker yellow Arrows look alot like the ones off Final Attack.
And @Random_Overlord 4 instances of a 40% chance event triggering in a row isn't that difficult to imagine, no?
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Lasten - 2010-07-08
Kakashi Wrote:It not much higher. I believe 2h sword is around 1.27 and polearm/spears are 1.4x. That difference probably doesn't even cover the speed difference, let alone the 200% difference.
2h sword is 1.29, Polearm/Spear is 1.49.
As far as I'm aware, Brave Slash now has the same delay as Crusher, and DrKs would be using Sacrifice in the situtations that the Hero uses Enrage in.
The classes are balanced.
[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Super_cyp - 2010-07-08
Cape - All classes
Required Level: 115
MDEF: +48
WDEF: +43
Accuracy: +420
5 Slots
O___o Did I read that right?! +420 accuracy..? :f6: That sounds insane..