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Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - ElectricSix - 2011-04-27

KajitiSouls Wrote:Godly at cleanup? Not entirely.

Pretty much anything goes after the two core items, although building her tanky is generally a good way to go.

Eh I suppose that wasn't entirely accurate, but I guess I've just had enough good Irelia players who get 2-3 kills at the end of a team fight to think that way. I know there are some terrible Irelia players out there who don't do that well, but I still think her kit gives her a lot better chance to perform late/post team fight cleanup than most champs.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-27

ElectricSix Wrote:Eh I suppose that wasn't entirely accurate, but I guess I've just had enough good Irelia players who get 2-3 kills at the end of a team fight to think that way. I know there are some terrible Irelia players out there who don't do that well, but I still think her kit gives her a lot better chance to perform late/post team fight cleanup than most champs.

Not sure how others play, but sometimes I play the part of the initiator off-tank and get everyone to blow their spells on me. However, this isn't a good idea the majority of the time. If you have been performing reasonably, people will start to hate you. Once you're in a fight, you're mostly staying in, because Irelia has no escapes. And you probably will be hurting by the time the fight ends. Or if not, either something strange just happened, or your team is just stomping.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-04-27

Irealia seems good to pick up the Ranged and squishies that always stays in the back during team fights and what not. But yes i agree once you dive in, or you kill them all or die trying.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-04-27

A little late to the discussion about alistar but...
He's freaking awesome now, enough said.

Gone are the days of old trinity force/ad alistar that eats towers.

In are the days of mage-istar the now solo lane capable, mage that just won't die most of the time.
His W is his main form of harassment now, with about a 4.5 second cooldown mid-game for me. It has a
1:1 ap ratio, and his Q is now quite larger with around a 7ish second cooldown mid-game and has a .8:1 ap ratio now.

The passive is actually very strong it was intended for farming purposes and to help his mobility in setting up a W toss to your team.
10% of your AP+a minor base damage is more than enough to farm entire minion waves with after a Q by the time you have a little AP.

I still run sheen on him but not triforce as it's not worth it now. It's looking like my build would be Sheen, RoA, Spirit Visage, Cooldown boots(or mercs depending), Frozen Heart, Sunfire Cape.
That build is extremely cost effective and gives him great survivability+some good AoE damage with his Q/Passive/Sunfire cape.

I run the same runes and masteries as I did before however. 9/0/21 with mpen reds/mana regen per level yellows/HP quints/flat cooldown blues. I run flash for iniation and clarity or clairavoyance depending on who my team's setup. With clarity you can literally never have to leave your lane except to shop, by spamming your heal and giving mana to your carry lane partner you will almost always win the lane.
edit: Before I forget, he is now extremely viable in the jungle with slightly over 4 minutes of clear time.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Remoir - 2011-04-27

 Dat Eve..

My first 2 kills were in lane. For some reason the shaco and kogmaw both decided to dive a turret to kill Irelia thus equalling a double kill for me lol.
Then i got an Oracles and didnt realise how it shut down Akali so bad. Stun ravaged her after she tanked a turret and sat in her shroud for a kill Tongue

Weirdly none of them even attempted to counter me, and nobody even went for me when the enemy kog got sight on me with ult a few times o.o

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-27

The rumormill that is the IRC is saying that Exhaust might get removed in the near future! A modified ignite will take its place instead. Apparently the cause of all this is the beefy DPS issue.

Duelman Wrote:A little late to the discussion about alistar but...
He's freaking awesome now, enough said.

Gone are the days of old trinity force/ad alistar that eats towers.

I still run sheen on him but not triforce as it's not worth it now. It's looking like my build would be Sheen, RoA, Spirit Visage, Cooldown boots(or mercs depending), Frozen Heart, Sunfire Cape.
That build is extremely cost effective and gives him great survivability+some good AoE damage with his Q/Passive/Sunfire cape.

I haven't seen any real AD Alistars. Then again, I haven't seen many Alistars anyways.

Trample just helps you push back minions more, not necessarily farming. I don't know the tics and all that stuff, but its low low damage is kinda disappointing. Word on the forums is that Rylai's actually works with Trample, but I have no idea since I don't own Alistar.

I don't know what you are thinking, but RoA is a fairly steep hill to climb in terms of investment and gold required.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Remoir - 2011-04-27

KajitiSouls Wrote:The rumormill that is the IRC is saying that Exhaust might get removed in the near future! A modified ignite will take its place instead. Apparently the cause of all this is the beefy DPS issue.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8313872#post8313872

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-27

Eddikins Wrote:http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8313872#post8313872

Haha, figured xD The idea was pretty dubious, plus they'd have to address the hole in the offense tree.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Phoenix Wright - 2011-04-27

It's a shame that was fake...

Exhaust really does contribute heavily to the problem that is tanky DPS =\

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-27

Phoenix Wright Wrote:It's a shame that was fake...

Exhaust really does contribute heavily to the problem that is tanky DPS =\

Not really, most tanky DPS choose Ignite over Exhaust nowadays anyways. I still use Exhaust cause I'm so bad at timing Ignite kills lol

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Corn - 2011-04-27

I use Exhaust a lot more, because it actually helps somewhat during late game =/. Thank God I had a heart attack when Kajitii said it might be removed.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - shouri - 2011-04-27

Dark Link Wrote:Not really, most tanky DPS choose Ignite over Exhaust nowadays anyways. I still use Exhaust cause I'm so bad at timing Ignite kills lol

Yeah I'm always worried about wasting ignite that I sometimes dont use it when I actually should D:

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-27

Corn Wrote:I use Exhaust a lot more, because it actually helps somewhat during late game =/. Thank God I had a heart attack when Kajitii said it might be removed.

Does it even help late / endgame? I see it being extremely useful early and mid, but come late, it becomes near useless since everyone hits like a truck and is super tanky IMO.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - ElectricSix - 2011-04-27

Dark Link Wrote:Does it even help late / endgame? I see it being extremely useful early and mid, but come late, it becomes near useless since everyone hits like a truck and is super tanky IMO.

Against Master Yi, Tyrn, etc, it's incredibly useful any time of the game, but especially late game it can mean the difference between your team surviving, and being aced. It's not going to work miracles against an uber fed person, and not going to be as useful against ranged DPS, but it can give you that extra few seconds of higher health to focus them down, and for a lot of late game DPS carries, that's all the time necessary to kill them.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Five Second Pose - 2011-04-27

Eddikins Wrote:http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8313872#post8313872

I'm pretty sure Private Katarina is a troll from /v/, /v/ started the whole "Private <champion name>" AFAIK.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-27

Ignite is useful against HP regen feggots and healers. See Dr. Mundo cry.

Honestly, my initial impression when I read the troll's impersonation was "wtp!?"


In other news, I crunched healing numbers with Soraka vs. Sona. Sona has a higher base healing, while Soraka's has better scaling. In terms of sheer healing potential, Sona actually wins. However, Sona's healing always includes herself, and sometimes you end up healing the person recalling instead of who you want. And her early game spells are pretty expensive for what they do anyways.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-04-27

KajitiSouls Wrote:The rumormill that is the IRC is saying that Exhaust might get removed in the near future! A modified ignite will take its place instead. Apparently the cause of all this is the beefy DPS issue.



I haven't seen any real AD Alistars. Then again, I haven't seen many Alistars anyways.

Trample just helps you push back minions more, not necessarily farming. I don't know the tics and all that stuff, but its low low damage is kinda disappointing. Word on the forums is that Rylai's actually works with Trample, but I have no idea since I don't own Alistar.

I don't know what you are thinking, but RoA is a fairly steep hill to climb in terms of investment and gold required.

It really depends on how the game is going for the build just like anyone else. You need to get him dude, dunno what you are missing!
Yeah the build before focused on specifically building triforce and ghostblade using your passive+procs from heal+ultimate+ghostblade active to eat a tower in no time flat.

Now you actually have a reason to build for some AP since your Q and W both scale cooldowns with level now, making them excellent harass tools.
The 10% going to your passive is icing on the cake and works like a boss with sunfire cape and Q.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-04-27

KajitiSouls Wrote:The rumormill that is the IRC is saying that Exhaust might get removed in the near future! A modified ignite will take its place instead. Apparently the cause of all this is the beefy DPS issue.



I haven't seen any real AD Alistars. Then again, I haven't seen many Alistars anyways.

Trample just helps you push back minions more, not necessarily farming. I don't know the tics and all that stuff, but its low low damage is kinda disappointing. Word on the forums is that Rylai's actually works with Trample, but I have no idea since I don't own Alistar.

I don't know what you are thinking, but RoA is a fairly steep hill to climb in terms of investment and gold required.

If Rylai works with Brand passive why would it not work with trample?

It also works for the 4 tics it does.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-28

Duelman Wrote:You need to get him dude, dunno what you are missing!

I live in my own world, and I have a limited IP budget. If you gift me Alistar, then I shall oblige. Otherwise nothnx, I have no incentive to try out someone that doesn't look like I would have fun to begin with.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-28

You know what I hate? When your team does extremely well early and mid game, but it unexpectedly explodes late game and costs you the match. Sadface...