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Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-04-24
Eddikins Wrote:...Xin Buffs? He could melt my health yesterday on Amumu with his combo just with Black Cleaver. peach doesnt need buffs o.o
Its more like 1vs1 nerf but team fights buff.
At least thats what some reds where saying.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Birdie - 2011-04-24
I hope the changes to alistar dont really change him that much. I really enjoyed playing him as he was. Fiddle changes seems pretty good to me and i never really understood why they changed Xin in the first place, Renekton and Irelia both have very similar playstyles to Xin and recently do it better, but w.e they are giving him a little buff again, so he should be in a good spot.
maybe they will change kayle next, since they seem to be messing around with a lot of champs i play, and she could use some help.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-04-24
I can't wait to try the upgraded alistar!!!!! CANNOT WAIT! I am already a very good alistar player with the
current setup, the new one looks <3 <3 awesome!
Also time to dust off my old blue fiddlestick skin and pwn some jungle once again!
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-04-24
Birdie Wrote:I hope the changes to alistar dont really change him that much. I really enjoyed playing him as he was. Fiddle changes seems pretty good to me and i never really understood why they changed Xin in the first place, Renekton and Irelia both have very similar playstyles to Xin and recently do it better, but w.e they are giving him a little buff again, so he should be in a good spot.
maybe they will change kayle next, since they seem to be messing around with a lot of champs i play, and she could use some help.
You could NOT run from zin in a 1vs1 before the nerf. You can (Barely) run from zin after nerf.
He would TTS>AC>TTS>AC>TTS>SUCCESFUL ESCAPE (Yeah right). At least i think thats the combo, now he can only do TTS>AC>TTS>Escape.
Or some crazy pomegranate like that were saying the reds. Also this is in the space of 1-2 secs i believe.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-04-24
I'm having a horrid couple of days on LoL. I cannot seem to win, everytime I queue on my main (20+wins over 50/50) I get matched against the most aggravating team comps imaginable.
Also since I play carries like ryze alot, usually it's me they focus first even when I'm super careful on positioning.
GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE THE WEEKENDS TOO! I prefer playing on the weekdays when kids are IN school.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Five Second Pose - 2011-04-24
Birdie Wrote:maybe they will change kayle next, since they seem to be messing around with a lot of champs i play, and she could use some help.
Riot's been working on a Kayle revamp for a few months now.
WillDaSnail Wrote:I'm inclined to think it was your Shen that won you the game, not double stealth.Twitch
Not much to say, but the Eve + Twitch combo is very OP when they both cooperate together in correct ways. More than a few times, every one of the opponents got Oracles. We were somewhat countered a bit here and there. Eventually, the presence of me and Eve proved to be a huge money drain for the other team; they were forced to spend money to counter us instead of getting the items they need. They were forced to play passively. +1 to me and Eve.
How we countered Oracles: Told my team to initiate first before me and Eve went in and cause havoc. That worked nicely.
Note: Yes I did try out Tiamat just for the heck of it. Very nice in clearing minion waves, good damage boost, and it complements Spray and Pray very nicely. I may use it again, but it depends on whether I feel like wanting to use it.
![[Image: LoL45.jpg]](http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s105/WillDaSnail/LoL45.jpg)
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-24
dante9898 Wrote:You could NOT run from zin in a 1vs1 before the nerf. You can (Barely) run from zin after nerf.
He would TTS>AC>TTS>AC>TTS>SUCCESFUL ESCAPE (Yeah right). At least i think thats the combo, now he can only do TTS>AC>TTS>Escape.
Or some crazy pomegranate like that were saying the reds. Also this is in the space of 1-2 secs i believe.
Last I checked, this game isn't balanced around 1v1 or 3v3, but 5v5. If you let yourself get caught out of position alone against Xin, you deserved to die.
The nerfs were solely due to his 1v1 duelist ability, but he sucked ass in 5v5, which made him suck ass in EVERYTHING. The buffs were to help him in 5v5 fights, and his jungling, while keeping his 1v1 in check.
Also Xin is EASILY shut down, so letting him freely farm / get that threatening means you and/or your team were doing something wrong.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-04-24
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:I'm inclined to think it was your Shen that won you the game, not double stealth.
Nah. Our Shen was an excellent tank, providing the initiation we need. The other two guys on my team helped Shen with whatever he needed. Me and Eve caused so much trouble for the opponents, lol.
Though interestingly enough, at the beginning, we decided to go gank the jungler at blue. This turns into a very early game teamfight. I got fed early on, getting two kills (yay for Deadly Venom?) before getting killed myself. Shen and the others mopped up whenever they could. We took out 3-4 enemies that way, significantly delaying them.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-04-24
Dark Link Wrote:Last I checked, this game isn't balanced around 1v1 or 3v3, but 5v5. If you let yourself get caught out of position alone against Xin, you deserved to die.
The nerfs were solely due to his 1v1 duelist ability, but he sucked ass in 5v5, which made him suck ass in EVERYTHING. The buffs were to help him in 5v5 fights, and his jungling, while keeping his 1v1 in check.
Also Xin is EASILY shut down, so letting him freely farm / get that threatening means you and/or your team were doing something wrong.
Most champions got STUNLOCKED while 1vs1 against xin. Thats the reason of the nerf, To remove the "Antifun stunlock" of xin. The buff where indeed to help him on team fights while still keeping his 1vs1 capabilities.
And the game is indeed balanced on 1vs1 and 5vs5. If the game were fully balanced for 5vs5 then why do assassin champions exist? They suck 5vs5 but excel in 1vs1.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-04-24
Is it worth it to build a full pure AS rune page (for AD DPS)? I'm giving this idea a serious thought.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-24
dante9898 Wrote:Most champions got STUNLOCKED while 1vs1 against xin. Thats the reason of the nerf, To remove the "Antifun stunlock" of xin. The buff where indeed to help him on team fights while still keeping his 1vs1 capabilities.
They got "stunlocked" if you built him funky, purely AS and CDR. Plus it wasn't even a "Stunlock" anyways. At best you got 3 TTS to go off in the span of 7sec, the knock-up is 1sec, so 3sec stuned and 4sec to run. The problem is the reds were saying you were in the air longer than you were on ground, which isn't the case. Like I said, if you got caught out of position against a Xin, you deserved to die.
Quote:And the game is indeed balanced on 1vs1 and 5vs5. If the game were fully balanced for 5vs5 then why do assassin champions exist? They suck 5vs5 but excel in 1vs1.
LoL is a TEAM game, not a SOLO game. The game is balanced around 5v5, Assassins are there to pick out one person from the crowd, control them, and let their teammates finish them off. Why else do most assassins have a "stun-esque" ability?
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-24
Duelman Wrote:I'm having a horrid couple of days on LoL. I cannot seem to win, everytime I queue on my main (20+wins over 50/50) I get matched against the most aggravating team comps imaginable.
Also since I play carries like ryze alot, usually it's me they focus first even when I'm super careful on positioning.
GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH I HATE THE WEEKENDS TOO! I prefer playing on the weekdays when kids are IN school.
You should try late night games, where the horrible laggers and non-english peeps appear.
On a similar note about aggravating team comps, this one isn't as bad as say a team chock full of CC but... I was duo queuing with MoldyOnions (PhoenixWright) since I haven't seen him in forever. Our team comp was Katarina, Soraka, Evelynn, Nasus, and Nocturne. Their team was Singed, TF, Teemo, Akali, Shen. Initial thoughts were that we would either outplay them awareness-wise, or really bad shyt will happen due to a lack of good initiation. Things got even weirder when Nasus ended up against Teemo in mid.
Turns out a jungler + roamer + on-demand healing were too much for the other team to handle. Teemo gets his ass saved a LOT by Shen. Our snowball champs Kat and Evelynn got out of control because Evelynn continued to ruin people's days, and no one reserved a skill to stop Kat's ult in team fights, even though she jumps in after everyone else does.
Dark Link Wrote:LoL is a TEAM game, not a SOLO game. The game is balanced around 5v5, Assassins are there to pick out one person from the crowd, control them, and let their teammates finish them off. Why else do most assassins have a "stun-esque" ability?
Or you know, it's not always a 5v5 all the time. Laning Phase. Junglers. Split pushing. La.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-04-24
KajitiSouls Wrote:Or you know, it's not always a 5v5 all the time. Laning Phase. Junglers. Split pushing. La.
Which I understand, but the game is still balanced around a 5v5 setting, what I mean is 5 players vs 5 players. It's still a team based game overall. All the phases you mentioned still involve team player one way or another.
if the game was balanced around 1v1, then a 4v5 wouldn't make a difference.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Five Second Pose - 2011-04-24
WillDaSnail Wrote:Is it worth it to build a full pure AS rune page (for AD DPS)? I'm giving this idea a serious thought.
Name one AD DPS champ that uses attack speed over damage or armour pen.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Phoenix Wright - 2011-04-24
WillDaSnail Wrote:Is it worth it to build a full pure AS rune page (for AD DPS)? I'm giving this idea a serious thought.
NONONONONonooooooooonooooooooooo. No. This is a really bad idea.
a) Armor pen marks dwarf AS marks.
b) Yellow/Blue AS runes barely give any stats.
c) You're better off using HP/level seals, flat armor seals, or mana regen seals.
d) or CDR glyphs, or MR glyphs... etc.
AS is generally a bad stat to waste rune slots/mastery points on because it's so easily acquired through items. Armor penetration? Not so much.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Five Second Pose - 2011-04-24
I'm thinking of changing mine from Arpen marks/scaling Mana regen seals/flat CDR blues/ Arpen quints to Arpen marks/scaling HP seals/mana regen blues/arpen quints. Thoughts?
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - madanthony - 2011-04-24
I am okay with this.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=160127&d=1303517227
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=148688&d=1301963633
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=148687&d=1301963610
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Manu - 2011-04-24
madanthony Wrote:I am okay with this.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=160127&d=1303517227
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=148688&d=1301963633
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=148687&d=1301963610
Dam those look great. I like Ez the most.
I had a sad game today, sad for the other team. They had a Vlad that was good, a WW that wasn't that bad and an Ez that was good harassing but not good killing, that could've worked if it weren't for: a SUPER feeding Soraka, and a horrible Mord, mix those 2 in a lane and you get Garen and Me fed early game, I had 3/0/3 around 10 minutes in, it was like 'come in and die' for them in bottom lane, then their soraka changed lane with WW and it got a bit harder but we kept going fairly good, then I went mid and got a little harrased by Ez but it was easy to heal cause I had Doran's, a BF and Vampiric, then after a bit of harassing got their Ez with my ult and got the tower.
We weren't pushing enough though, they had taken 2 of our towers in both top and mid, and bot was untouched, while the only tower we had was mid. So I went top while they were all at mid and got front and inner tower, then they came but with Flash, Ghost and my net I escaped
Anyway the game went a lot longer than expected, I could take Mord 1v1 anytime, did that twice since he loved to go around solo, not even using skills, Frozen Mallet was enough to keep him in range. Around 35 minute mark I had my first death =(. After that I had a nearly full build, only missing 1 slot which I was feeling with some MR for that Vlad (Had infinity edge, Frozen Mallet, Phantom Dancer, Attack speed shoes and Bloodthirster), I killed dragon like 3 times alone for the team (I stand behind dragon so if enemy comes I just press my E and escape through wall).
So game finished with us taking Baron and pushing all lanes till all inhibs were down and got nexus right away. Final score: 10/2/12... that kser garen
Oh yeah our other members were Le Blanc at mid who wasn't that good, and top were Xin and Akali (both had horrible early game against vlad/ww and then got fed when Soraka went up)
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-04-24
Darkmaniak Wrote:Dam those look great. I like Ez the most.
I had a sad game today, sad for the other team.
stuff
Without access to a LoL client, I can only guess at who you were playing as. (Caitlyn?)
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Corn - 2011-04-24
I'm betting it's Caitlyn, too.