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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
CakesXD Wrote:I'd like to make it out of this virtual world alive.
Wouldn't we all. Well, on the bright side, at least we don't have to climb a 100 floor floating castle? And Welcome, hope you can be a tad more active. Subs always have the unfortunate position of no one knowing them too well and haveing to catch up, but at least it was not too late in the game.
psst, guys, I think Vlad is screwing with our memor--- what was I saying again?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
Holypie Wrote:I'm guessing it was a random choice. Seems like most people have powers this game so a mafia roleblocker (or a town roleblocker but with the flavour I got I doubt it) would be quite powerful. As for why they didn't target Kyrastri, probably because she has a day power and it won't work on the day power. What I am confused about though is why they didn't target Luv, as he repeatedly hinted that he had a pretty awesome night action in order to compensate for his inability to vote.Hahaha, I'm surprised myself too. I don't usually hide stuff, I find it wrong to do so. I know in some occasions, you do, but I just don't think it's right. Do you mind if I ask whether of you have a special role as well? No need to say exactly what, can just hint
I wonder Vlad stands for Vladmir... What was I saying again?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Chaz - 2014-07-13
I am actually wary of both maspan and meta. On one hand maspan is convinced that meta can not be trusted. On the other hand it could be a ruse.
also @niernen do you even have an idea of who your vote got forced too?
as for my name, you can call me Jane.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-07-13
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Hmm, sounds possible. I guess Shidoshi has quite a powerful role then. If the doctor's here, do try to protect someone with known powers, or someone who is very vocal, aite?
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Gonna go back to sleep, I'll be back in around 5-6 hours, depending on my time lol. Don't worry, I'm not gonna be inactive, not my playing style anyway haha.
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Hahaha, I'm surprised myself too. I don't usually hide stuff, I find it wrong to do so. I know in some occasions, you do, but I just don't think it's right. Do you mind if I ask whether of you have a special role as well? No need to say exactly what, can just hint
I wonder Vlad stands for Vladmir... What was I saying again?
[COLOR="#cc8899"]If you are fishing, then for what prize?
I wonder if you think this is wise...
Crazy roles are in play,
And I think they'd best stay,
Until necessary, a surprise.[/COLOR]
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Oh no, I kinda expected this to happen, since Shidoshi is one of the most vocal players in the game.
This somehow seems like a result from a previous game, where Yoshi died in Night 1 as he was very vocal.
Oh well, farewell Shelden Young. You've been good..
Back to topic, I guess TheBirds has one of the highest suspicions once more, to me. He voted last-minute, and was not active throughout the day. Sega would be a second option, as he, like TheBirds, was not active. Heck, he even made us feel like he's anti-Town for some reason. I can't vote today, as usual, but I guess TheBirds or Sega would be the one we're looking for.
If we're going by kill motives, this is the list of things I can think of:
- Shidoshi talked (see: posted) too much. Unlikely. There were people that were much more vocal and active in posting.
- Shidoshi talked too much. Plausible. We should look into their previous posts to see what they have said that may have lead mafia to kill them.
- Shidoshi posed too big of a threat to mafia. Like luv said, y0y0 was killed last game because he was going to be actively aggressive across the board. The mafia may have been scared off by Shidoshi's deductions and needed to silence him.
- The mafia knew about Shidoshi's power. This is really role-theory heavy, so it's unlikely, but the mafia could very well be able to discern roles during the day, but the results aren't revealed to everyone because they're bloody mafia and why the hell would they do that. Since the game seems to be built very role-heavy from what we've seen (both our dead townies have powers), the mafia could very well have some sort of role identifier as well as a role blocker and your traditional godfather (and more depending on how many mafia we should expect). NOTE: This is unlikely twicefold because I believe there is a role that would have taken priority.
- The mafia decided to kill randomly.
As for powers, Luv, as much as I want to know what the hell you've done power wise (Night 1 and Midday 1 have passed, you have to have done something), I'm going to advise this:
Hint at your role if you have to, but don't claim unless the effects of your power will be announced at somepoint once you've used them and you don't want to have mafia claim your role/don't want people to freak out that there's been an ambiguous skill used.
I am about 70% sure of someone's role, but I'm more interested to see if anyone got PMs about night actions being used on them.
As for suspicions, beyond TheBirds (who I'm inclined to believe is more neutral than mafia, anti-town at worst), I want to hear Meta talk more, but like meow (but for different reasons) I'm inclined to believe that Meta isn't a cheater.
Holypie Wrote:That is a very strange role, I'm not entirely sure what it could mean. I think I got roleblocked last night though, apparently I was hit by a blast of energy and I couldn't move all night.
Either someone from town thinks you're suspicious, mafia thinks you're a threat or someone used their power randomly on you. It's also possible that someone else used their power on the roleblocker, and you were the unfortunate target (a la Captain Planet mafia).
ChaoticCJ Wrote:It has already been said, but TheBirds' vote is very strange. There really wasn't a need to protect Chaz under the assumption of mafia(or even a known role). I want to hear what TheBirds says, but my suspicion goes to the others who voted for Liable. The suspicion then falls to either faonkarino and Niernen, because if Holypie was blocked, there probably wouldn't have been a kill, so that clears him for now. Between the two, it seems faonkarino has less to lose than Niernen, which raises suspicion there. Unfortunately without more information we are still going for a shot in the dark.
If we're judging from votes, we should be looking at those who didn't vote and those who voted for Liable. Once Liable reached a majority (of known votes), the rest of the mafia need not implicate themselves by piling on and could instead remain vote-less.
CakesXD Wrote:Thanks xBTAx;.
Hello. I suppose I might as well introduce myself. I'm Liana, and while I'm not exactly fond of any of you, I'd like to make it out of this virtual world alive.
I suggest everyone lay off you for now, as your actions yesterday can be explained with what you've said today. It's more likely that you're neutral though, or make grudges against people really easily,
An' I'm Philibert Jenkins, hun. Nice to meet ya.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
MasPan Wrote:If you are fishing, then for what prize?
I wonder if you think this is wise...
Crazy roles are in play,
And I think they'd best stay,
Until necessary, a surprise.
If Holypie does not wanna say anything, I'm cool with it
I'm starting to wonder if there's a doctor in the first place...
Sure Kyra, I'm not gonna claim anything until nature comes and forces me to do so.
@MetaSeraphim; I guess you do need to talk, or in your case, quote more now.
I guess other than TheBirds, I have a tinge of feeling that faon might be one possibility too.
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So, two with post restrictions (MasPan and Meta), two with vote restrictions (Niernen and I), one known Day power (Kyra), and one roleblocker so far?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-13
Holypie Wrote:Guys stop volunteering to be test subjects. Instead why don't we roll the dice towards the biggest wild card we have, who is none other than TheBirds?
Absolutely agreed here. We know we get the results posted here, so why use it on people who are overall useful, and less likely to be mafia? Makes no sense.
MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]What Shidoshi knows of love and lies,
Maybe a message, sent as he dies,
A warning or a threat,
It's anybody's bet,
I still vote for the one I despise.
[Vote]MetaSeraphim do say I,
His is an act I refuse to buy,
I doubt that he's a mute,
So let's give him the boot,
At best he's an annoying ally.[/COLOR]
I agree. [Vote] MetaSeraphim
Their lack of talking after randomly voting for Chaz, and then keeping their messages short and sweet makes me think that there's a lot of underlying nonsense going on here. I don't trust Meta at all.
meowmixx Wrote:I dont think meta is a problem. he has been speaking like that from the very beginning, which is a pain to do. its waaaaay too much work to make a post using quotes for him to be mafia. just sayin lol
Just gonna use the same thing I said yesterday, eh? Why exactly are you defending Meta? What have they done that warrants a defense from someone that's not them?
Chaz Wrote:I am actually wary of both maspan and meta. On one hand maspan is convinced that meta can not be trusted. On the other hand it could be a ruse.
also @niernen do you even have an idea of who your vote got forced too?
as for my name, you can call me Jane.
At least MasPan has been overall helpful to the town, while Meta has been sending very short messages and not responding to prompts (yesterday, today is excusable since its still early).
I doubt Niernen would be told what's going on in regards to their vote, if anything at all.
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I'm starting to wonder if there's a doctor in the first place...
What are you, KhainiWesting us? That's the third doctor comment today, and this one doesn't even make sense. It's been one day, with 16 people as potential victims to sort out.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
Polantaris Wrote:Absolutely agreed here. We know we get the results posted here, so why use it on people who are overall useful, and less likely to be mafia? Makes no sense.Nope, not KhainiWesting. I'm not that extreme. I'm just wondering if there's a doctor or not.
I agree. [Vote] MetaSeraphim
Their lack of talking after randomly voting for Chaz, and then keeping their messages short and sweet makes me think that there's a lot of underlying nonsense going on here. I don't trust Meta at all.
Just gonna use the same thing I said yesterday, eh? Why exactly are you defending Meta? What have they done that warrants a defense from someone that's not them?
At least MasPan has been overall helpful to the town, while Meta has been sending very short messages and not responding to prompts (yesterday, today is excusable since its still early).
I doubt Niernen would be told what's going on in regards to their vote, if anything at all.
What are you, KhainiWesting us? That's the third doctor comment today, and this one doesn't even make sense. It's been one day, with 16 people as potential victims to sort out.
And no, I'm not the doctor. If I am the doctor, I would have just voted lol. My role has nothing to do with healing.
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Oh now I get what Maspan said, nope, I'm not fishing either. I can't fish because I don't even know who's the doctor. I'm genuinely curious about the doctor's existence and that's it.
Sorry Polantaris for making you misunderstood me.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
Polantaris Wrote:Just gonna use the same thing I said yesterday, eh? Why exactly are you defending Meta? What have they done that warrants a defense from someone that's not them?Think, Polantaris. What would lead an otherwise relatively passive player (she didn't vote yesterday, though she did say she was busy with RL stuff and she couldn't pinpoint anyone particularly suspicious) to defend Meta? I don't want to spell it out, hopin' you get lucky, buddy. ):
Did ANYONE get a protect PM, or PMs at all (aside from Holypie and presumably Niernen)? We need your cooperation, people!
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:Think, Polantaris. What would lead an otherwise relatively passive player (she didn't vote yesterday, though she did say she was busy with RL stuff and she couldn't pinpoint anyone particularly suspicious) to defend Meta? I don't want to spell it out, hopin' you get lucky, buddy. ):Nope, no PM. I wished I got one though.
Did ANYONE get a protect PM, or PMs at all (aside from Holypie and presumably Niernen)? We need your cooperation, people!
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-07-13
Polantaris Wrote:Why did you vote for Chaz? What's going on with you?
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Holypie Wrote:it was a random choice.
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Niernen Wrote:There have been plenty of words to quote if he is really restricted like that
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meowmixx Wrote:a pain to do. its waaaaay too much work to make a post
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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-13
[MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION]; finally u say something. had me a wee bit worried.
As for PMs, i did infact receive one as i had expected. and i wasn't roleblocked
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:Think, Polantaris. What would lead an otherwise relatively passive player (she didn't vote yesterday, though she did say she was busy with RL stuff and she couldn't pinpoint anyone particularly suspicious) to defend Meta? I don't want to spell it out, hopin' you get lucky, buddy. ):
I was intentionally implying what you've now basically said flat out. >_>
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
Chaz Wrote:also @niernen do you even have an idea of who your vote got forced too?
Well, it never said I can't reveal it and I would have had to vote anyways, so, ironically.... you...
Maybe because someone thought you would be an easy lynch? I have to vote for you by the end of the day, and for some reason it seems like the right thing to do for me. I was going to put it off till the end, but I don't think it really makes a difference at this point. [Vote][MENTION=5839]Chaz[/MENTION];, it just feels like something I have to do. Yesterday I did think you were innocent (hence my vote on Liable), but I think a higher power want me to help get rid of you. [MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION]; Is it really a pain to read comments and copy some text? Sure, it takes more time, but its not impossible.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
Polantaris Wrote:I was intentionally implying what you've now basically said flat out. >_>
... That's my bad, but I don't see why you've been asking her the questions in that case. I already implied it beforehand so both of those posts (both mine and yours) were redundant regardless.
edit: I'm stupid, I got ya. Sorry.
And [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];, thanks for telling us, that we know who you're forced to vote for we might be able to get some theories running, but did you forget to tell us earlier or was there a reason why you avoided mentioning it until Chaz prompted you? You're right in saying that we were going to find out regardless.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Holypie - 2014-07-13
Kyrastri Wrote:Think, Polantaris. What would lead an otherwise relatively passive player (she didn't vote yesterday, though she did say she was busy with RL stuff and she couldn't pinpoint anyone particularly suspicious) to defend Meta? I don't want to spell it out, hopin' you get lucky, buddy. ):
Did ANYONE get a protect PM, or PMs at all (aside from Holypie and presumably Niernen)? We need your cooperation, people!
There's no guarantee of protect PMs anyway, in fact it's quite unusual to let a victim know if they were successfully protected. In games I've played usually the doctor doesn't even know if they were successful, let alone the target. It's not really something to expect is all I'm saying. I'm going to be a bit busy today but I just wanted to toss in my two cents about game mechanics, which I'm personally much better at than scum hunting. I'll post my thoughts on the rest of the overnight posts later if I can.
Edit: Oh yeah, unless your role is something like Kyrastri's where we would find out anyway, please don't claim unless you have to. It just makes you a target for the mafia and doesn't really help the town because there isn't usually any easy way to confirm a claim. Mass claiming is sometimes a legitimate strategy but it's also really boring.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-13
Niernen Wrote:Well, it never said I can't reveal it and I would have had to vote anyways, so, ironically.... you...So, this is getting scary then.. At least you can vote. I can't.
MetaSeraphim; Is it really a pain to read comments and copy some text? Sure, it takes more time, but its not impossible.
Uh Meta, I think I will need you to talk more than just that...
TheBirds will still be at the top of my suspicions though, because of what I said earlier, judging on what he did in Day 1.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-13
Holypie Wrote:There's no guarantee of protect PMs anyway, in fact it's quite unusual to let a victim know if they were successfully protected. In games I've played usually the doctor doesn't even know if they were successful, let alone the target. It's not really something to expect is all I'm saying. I'm going to be a bit busy today but I just wanted to toss in my two cents about game mechanics, which I'm personally much better at than scum hunting. I'll post my thoughts on the rest of the overnight posts later if I can.
Edit: Oh yeah, unless your role is something like Kyrastri's where we would find out anyway, please don't claim unless you have to. It just makes you a target for the mafia and doesn't really help the town because there isn't usually any easy way to confirm a claim. Mass claiming is sometimes a legitimate strategy but it's also really boring.
Okay, yeah it was pretty poor of me to immediately assume people would have gotten protect PMs. Thanks for letting me know; I wasn't expecting MasPan's game to be exceptionally unusual so I wouldn't have figured.
If we're going to get a better idea of roles without claiming, though, we still need to know about other potential PMs. It doesn't help that we (from what I've seen) have no bloody idea what each role actually does, but knowing what they describe would be step 1 on top of our regular scumhunting.
I'm calling it a night early today, so I'll make my dice roll now.
I [Roll (the) Dice Towards] TheBirds.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - faonkarino - 2014-07-13
ChaoticCJ Wrote:Well, I ended up missing the deadline, but there really wasn't much to say yesterday.
It has already been said, but TheBirds' vote is very strange. There really wasn't a need to protect Chaz under the assumption of mafia(or even a known role). I want to hear what TheBirds says, but my suspicion goes to the others who voted for Liable. The suspicion then falls to either faonkarino and Niernen, because if Holypie was blocked, there probably wouldn't have been a kill, so that clears him for now. Between the two, it seems faonkarino has less to lose than Niernen, which raises suspicion there. Unfortunately without more information we are still going for a shot in the dark.
I still want to wait for the others to respond, but that is the way things look to me.
I am also interested in Kyrastri;'s ability. Feel free to use it on me...for better or worse.
Holypie Wrote:Oh yeah, as for why I voted Liable, it was mostly to break the tie, but also because Shidoshi is pretty convincing with his arguments.
Do I even need to say anything? I was the second one to vote on him, by the way. If Shidoshi was alive, would he be suspicious to you as well? Following that logic, should I suspect you?
Well, anyway.
The day just started, I'm waiting for Chaz, Cakes and TheBirds contributions. ALTHOUGH TheBirds is not dumb. He knows posting in the manner he's posting would strike as scummy. He knows that voting at someone at the end of the day for no reason at all would strike as scummy. He's just doing that damned reverse psychology again. He could also be a vengeful who's certain of a target and would prefer acting by himself than actually calling out his suspicion. But on a game such as this, I don't think there would be a vengeful.
I still don't know what to think of this, but I'm almost voting on him. Almost.
I'm also surprised no one would actually compliment Kyra's post about Shidoshi. Nice post.
And why, WHY the hell would someone make Niernen vote on Chaz? If it was Mafia, Chaz was suspicious already. If who did it was a townie, did he simply think that Chaz is mafia and Niernen wouldn't vote on Chaz because since before Niernen thought Liable was mafia then Chaz would be townie? And what's even the point of a forced vote which we KNOW is forced? Could Niernen be faking? Although I wouldn't be surprised by yet another vote-altering ability since we know about LuvD's and Kyra's alterations.
I...
Ugh. I have to think harder and discover what's behind all this.
And excuse me for anything right now, I am very, very, very, very sleepy. Maybe I should have waited until I was in a more acceptable state. I don't know.
Goshdarmin.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-13
[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; talking about doctors is a bad idea. While we don't know if there is one, it is pretty standard to have one, so there is no need to ask. No one can claim because the mafia would immediately try to kill them (and the doctor can't protect himself). There is no point early in this game. Trying to make the doctor come out or imply you are the doctor is just a bad idea. Trying to get anyone to reveal roles just makes you look scummy in general since roles are usually private.
[MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; I didn't see the need to immediately jump out and reveal I had been forced to vote for Chaz, as the whole discussion would flow that way and there were other important things to talk about too. I was waiting for people to form some ideas about the previous day first, and didn't see the harm in waiting a few hours till more people were up. People were mentioning powers, blocks and voting, so I responded to that, but I was waiting till a bit later so we could get a bit more information. If I had voted for Chaz first thing, it would have been possible people did not believe me and I would have looked really scummy.
And I have to agree with others, revealing your role unless it will be made public regardless is not always the best idea.
[MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION]; I was really tired last night for some reason, and when I woke up I felt I needed to vote for Chaz, it felt like the right thing to do. I don't have any reasons and I can't really explain why.
[MENTION=13694]faonkarino[/MENTION]; I don't think faking being forced to vote on someone would make a lot of sense, especially someone like Chaz. Most of us felt he was not too scummy but was just learning how to play, and there were plenty of better targets. I'm guessing I was probably chosen because I was the third vote for Liable, so voting for both Liable and Chaz would have made me looked scummy.
I'm sorry, but my internet keeps cutting out every 10-15 minutes, I guess Vlad is affecting me. Might not be as active as before.