Tristan Wrote:What is your current budget?: $500-600ish

As long as it can run battlefield 3 on mid-high settings I would be happy with it.

Tristan Wrote:What is your current budget?:
$500-600ish

Devil Wrote:CPU choice 1 - Cheap Power - Intel Core i5 3570K - 205 euro
CPU choice 2 - High Power - Intel Core i7 3770K - 305 euro

CPU-Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 25 euro (Since you're total real beginner, don't use liquid cooling, it's really advanced and quite expensive)

Motherboard - Asus P8Z77-V LX - 110 euro

RAM - Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Low Profile (2x4GB) - 45 euro

Graphics Card choice 1 - Cheap Power - Asus GTX560-Ti DCII 2DI/1GD5 (TOP version) - 220 euro
Graphics Card choice 2 - High Power - Asus GTX670 DC2T-2GD5 (TOP version) - 420 euro

Networking - Don't use WIFI when you want to play shooters... Just use the on-board lan cable connection

Case - Antec One - 45 euro

PSU - XFX Pro 550W - 60 euro

HDD - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003, 1TB - 75 euro

Optical Drive - LG GH24NS90 Black - 15 euro

OS - Windows 7 - 64 Bit Professional - 130 euro (Hardly a price difference with Home these days)

Totals:
Cheap Power: 930 euro
High Power: 1230 euro

But if you're looking for 500 euro max... don't expect anything that can play Battlefield 3 smoothly...

Tristan Wrote:Well... I can probably get some money help from grandparents and such so... at this point I really don't know EXACTLY what price point, but thats probably the amount I will pay. Prices will probably drop in the next 4-5 months, right? Christmas sales too...

Dystopiq Wrote:So I this build I plan on going with as soon as I get back tot he states ( I saved up!)

[COLOR="#008000"]CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($121.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($182.49 @ Mac Connection) [/COLOR]
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($249.00 @ B&H) - WHY? A SSD is about 5x as fast as this thing... Invest in a larger SSD = smarter!
[COLOR="#008000"]Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($579.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 600T (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($23.98 @ Newegg) [/COLOR]
Monitor: BenQ XL2420TX 120Hz 24.0" Monitor ($499.00 @ Amazon) I once had this monitor, but returned it, sure it's EXCELLENT for 120hz gaming, ultra fast, etc, etc, however, the colors are TERRIBLE (read: viewing angles). If you have a 100% white/blue/green/red background, it's not 100% the same color on all places of the screen, this has to do with it being it a TN panel (fastest response) and not an IPS/PLS panel (best colors)... I would advise you to get a good IPS monitor (Dell 2410 (not the 2412!!), HP ZR2440w, Eizo Foris FS2332) or a good PLS monitor (Samsung S24A850DW). About IPS vs PLS: IPS is 10% better on color reproduction, PLS is 10% better with viewing angles. Both are 100% better then TN panels on both colors and viewing angles.
[COLOR="#008000"]Keyboard: Das Keyboard DASK3PROMS1 Wired Standard Keyboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2811.36[/COLOR]

Tristan Wrote:Actually my new budget is more so 800-1000... I am pretty sure I can get a decent amount of money by then. I was shooting low xD

Devil Wrote:Well, prices will drop, sure, but not THAT much, maybe 100 dollar less for the same this Christmas, so don't expect miracles.

But it's just the question of what you WANT to get. You -can- make a cheap game pc for 500 dollar, but you will hate yourself for spending the 500 dollars on it within a year, because you have to upgrade everything AGAIN next summer.

You can also keep in mind that the next gen consoles will come out in summer ~ christmas 2013 with full hd and all new eye candy, maybe that is a better investment if you want a good "game pc". You will never have to upgrade your console again for the coming 5 years (that will be 2018 by then) and keep playing games smoothly without having to worry about your PC hardware.

For Maplestory, you can even leave out a videocard, because the new Core i5 and i7 onboard GPU is quite ok for 2d gaming.

But if you're really into smooth PC 3D gaming, yeah, new (good) hardware will cost you a lot of money.




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Dystopiq Wrote:Hmm...I like the idea of IPS monitors but they aren't made for gaming, and my build is mostly for gaming. They still have high input lag and high response times as well as that "glow" when showing blacks. And they ghost. Yes, their colors are badass which makes them better for photo editing, etc. Believe it or not I got some crazy vision and can notice input lag/ghosting like a beast. I don't really care about insane color reproduction or AMAZING viewing angles since I'll be sitting in front of my monitor. I want to go with 120hz and their colors and viewing angles are good enough for me.

Can anyone recommend me a good 120hz monitor? I don't want IPS. I'm a gamer not a designer. I care more about FPS than I do color reproduction.

Devil Wrote:Haha, I'm a hardcore FPS gamer (for more then 15 years now) and I can tell you, the new (more expensive, 350+ dollars) IPS monitors are absolutely suited for gaming (no ghosting, tearing, low response times, no input lag), especially when they're designed for gaming like the Eizo Foris 2332 (and upcoming 2333) which are both IPS monitors designed for gaming.

About you hating the "glow" of IPS monitors in blacks, really, if you notice THAT, you'll hate the TN panels even more because with TN imagine having colorshift-glows on red, green, blue and white as well because of the color shifting at the edges of the screen when you're sitting in front of it because of the terrible viewing angles...

I'm just warning you, TN isn't just "bad" on color reproduction and viewing angles, it's just plain terrible and worse then you think. But if you want to go 120hz, I won't stop you. Just don't expect to view photo's / browse the web with it, because you'll think your eyes are malfunctioning... it's that terrible... That's why I returned mine...

You can always go for 2 monitors, one TN Panel for 120hz gaming and one IPS Panel for browsing the web, without having a free LSD trip... xD

Dystopiq Wrote:IPS and a 120hz will be pricey. Probably $1K+. I'll stick to a 120hz and then grab an IPS in the future. Besides I've been gaming on my Sager's monitor, so ANYTHING is better than a laptop screen. Ty for the input!

Devil Wrote:Laptop screens = TN 90% of the time (except for sony vaio and apple), so you're getting the same quality display as a notebook, just larger and higher resolution.

XTOTHEL Wrote:College starts...when?

Corn Wrote:What is your current budget?:
$1300-1800. Preferably towards the lower side.

What part are you looking for? Why do you need it?:
I want a brand new spanking new laptop for college. Windows 7, preferably.

What parts are in your current computer? Be as specific as possible. Links to Newegg/Tigerdirect are best. If you have a pre-built, include the make and model.
N/A

How do you intend to use this new part or new computer? What's the heaviest load it's likely to encounter?
I'm going to use this computer for programming in college, and gaming of course. I do not care about how much it weights (the laptop I own right now is probably going to be heavier than this new one). The heaviest workload is probably Battlefield 3 on max settings, but I don't exactly need to run Battlefield 3 on max settings. I would like to run Guild Wars 2 and other FPS, like TF2 and such, on max settings, though.

I have a relatively large budget, and I get student discounts on HP and Dells. I would like a monster of a laptop with like uber specs that can last me like 4 years, though. I've been looking at the HP Envys, but the graphics card is a turn-off =/.

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