Zacairga Wrote:Tell me then, what class do you think you healers deserve to be stronger than? Sure, your training should be decent, but it'd be ridiculous if a Cleric could deal dmg on ANYTHING better than an attacking class.

Besides, considering for 3 or so years they've had by far the BEST training. So what if they're slower than everyone else now?

donovan Wrote:I think Bishop's deserve to be the best trainers, previously they shared this title with Archmages, but Archmages are supposed to be versatile.

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Zacairga Wrote:Tell me then, what class do you think you healers deserve to be stronger than? Sure, your training should be decent, but it'd be ridiculous if a Cleric could deal dmg on ANYTHING better than an attacking class.

Zacairga Wrote:Besides, considering for 3 or so years they've had by far the BEST training. So what if they're slower than everyone else now?.

Zacairga Wrote:As soon as Arch Mages, Evans, and Battle Mages become support classes you can ask to be as strong as them.

donovan Wrote:I think Bishop's deserve to be the best trainers, previously they shared this title with Archmages, but Archmages are supposed to be versatile.

LegendGospel Wrote:You healers? Talk about bias. Training shouldn't be decent. It should be balanced for everyone. Not decent for some and awesome for others.

Also, the idea of a "support" class doesn't work in Maple Story, because every other class can just to everything you do, but better. Training? Better. Bossing? Better. Supporting? Well, a lot of things are better than Bless now. Heal? Autopot. Resurrection? Wheel of Destiny. Dispel? All Cures.



So your argument is that it was unbalanced before by having them to be the fastest trainers. And now it should be unbalanced having them to be the slowest trainers? Such flaw in logic I can see in Nexon, but on you, come on.



Again, being a "support class" gets you nothing on MS but:
1) Getting 80% less exp than everyone else in the game thanks to party share formula.
2) Poorer training than everyone else.
3) Being a HS/Heal mule.

That's it.

I'd gladly become a Holy Arch Mage compared to this pomegranate and throw these so called "support" skills out of the window. It just shows how poorly designed magicians were, since they were based all around ultimates. Take their ultimates away and you end up with crappy jobs. They buffed CL and Paralyze as well as DoT and now they're pretty good. But Bishops were left in the dust, basically with just a 5 hit Big Bang. All uniqueness down the drain.

rattown Wrote:bishops training ... with se ... is disgustingly awesome...

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taken from insoya

rethic Wrote:Does that bishop have haste and SE as skills of her own? And with 22.8k mp at level 163, there's no doubt that she will have max mp by the time she's level 200, assuming that's regular mp with washing.

rethic Wrote:Does that bishop have haste and SE as skills of her own? And with 22.8k mp at level 163, there's no doubt that she will have max mp by the time she's level 200, assuming that's regular mp with washing.

Zacairga Wrote:Well, with this ultima cooldown, Arch Mages are no longer the best trainers.

Be honest, why do you think the majority of today's Clerics/Priests/Bishops are following that path?

LegendGospel Wrote:Posted with some delay and got ninja'd by screenshots.

That actually seems pretty nice. I'd be interested in seeing screens without SE, though.
At least they still seem to shine with holy skills (which they should). That Shining Ray just did 200k.

If Bishops are getting these numbers at Skeles though, I'm just afraid to even imagine other jobs sweeping through Temple of Time... specially Paladins and Mages.

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레벨92 68%쯤에 시작했는데 20분후 레벨93에 14%정도 됬네요.(노두배
경험치 %로만보면 46%정도 먹었네요 와우. 한시간에 1업 하고도 남네요 -_-;

When put through Google Translate:
Level 92 started around 68% to 14% of 20 minutes, level 93 too bad. (Nodubae)
Look at only about 46% EXP% wow you look. Up to one hour a hagodo leaves-_-;

DualReaver Wrote:I still say Blast should go back to being a single hit skill with a higher percentage, since Heroes already have a multi hit skill in Brandish and Brave Slash. The main reason I love Blast in it's current form is because of it's ability to knockback almost anything, and that's lost if you change it. The only real reason to set it to 3 hits is to abuse the passive instakill with it, which is already pretty damn pointless because Blast does a ridiculous amount of damage anyway and Paladins use ACB for training.

Phoenix Wrote:Well, this may not be a problem with the new dmg cap, but all that extra dmg could be wasted if you end up hitting over it as it was in GMS with many Pallys. Also Multiple hits benefit an additive critical formula.

But other than that, yes I think it looks ugly.

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