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Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - ¬Rob - 2011-03-06

@^; Rage gives 20atk vs bless's 15atk. And.. what else are you gonna max? FA? Does that even work with Driver? (Rhetorical.)

Punch Wrote:Should I make it somewhat useful though, as in making an Ultimate Adventurer? Or do all the UAs suck? Because I keep hearing how they have tons of disadvantages -.-
After using Driver on my DW, I'm seriously considering remaking my Paladin(since I got hacked, it's just sitting there @ 142 w/o real gear) as a UA. The 24atk buff was the main focus, but I'd soooo make a UA warrior as a side project.

As for a question, Combo gets maxed 2nd(after Driver) in 3rd job, right? I basically did 7x during the 2x event today, and have no idea what to do after Driver(I did 70 ~> 77 with level 1 Driver and nothing else, LOL).


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - FoolsLove - 2011-03-06

ShinkuDragon Wrote:i am also on the DW bandwagon, what do you think of not maxing rage on second job? i mean, bless gives the same w.attk buff, and i can always use attack pots if i ever need to.

Always max rage. There is absolutely no reason to max Final Attack. It's barely any sort of useful in second job, and is just worthless in third.

¬Rob Wrote:As for a question, Combo gets maxed 2nd(after Driver) in 3rd job, right? I basically did 7x during the 2x event today, and have no idea what to do after Driver(I did 70 ~> 77 with level 1 Driver and nothing else, LOL).

Yeah, Combo after SD. Then Soul Charge, and Coma/Panic.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Dark Link - 2011-03-06

Punch Wrote:Can Dawn Warriors do anything at Level 120?

Or are they really only good for getting to Level 120 and earning that 24 Attack Blessing, after the UA patch?

=/
Only concerned if a DW is really worth taking up a character slot in El Nido.. which has 3 slots -.-

What I did for my 120 DW was finish the questline to turn him into an Echo mule and then proceeded to do the Papu questline to turn him into a Crack mule as well. Win-Win situation.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Punch - 2011-03-06

Okay but.. is the HP/MP loss true about UAs? Or is nothing wrong with them and are beneficial and just make sense to make, if you have a 120 Cygnus?


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Locked - 2011-03-06

Punch Wrote:Okay but.. is the HP/MP loss true about UAs? Or is nothing wrong with them and are beneficial and just make sense to make, if you have a 120 Cygnus?

Yes it's true you lose HP/MP when you make an UA, along with inventory slots.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Punch - 2011-03-06

Locked Wrote:Yes it's true you lose HP/MP when you make an UA, along with inventory slots.

Oh man, and how much HP/MP do you lose.. or just tell me if its substantial or hardly noticeable?
Because I can't quite find the exact information.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Locked - 2011-03-06

Punch Wrote:Oh man, and how much HP/MP do you lose.. or just tell me if its substantial or hardly noticeable?
Because I can't quite find the exact information.

All 50 levels worth and advancement hp, more than likely.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Punch - 2011-03-06

Locked Wrote:All 50 levels worth and advancement hp, more than likely.

That's what I figured.. so that's how much HP? o.O


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Takebacker - 2011-03-06

Do they start with 0 HP or something? >_>


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Locked - 2011-03-06

Takebacker Wrote:Do they start with 0 HP or something? >_>

Lmao that's funny.
I don't know how. I'm pretty sure they miss advancement HP though. The 50 levels worth was being sarcastic, obviously.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - donovan - 2011-03-06

Idk People make it seem like the end of the world, Monsters do less damage, and it's not like you need giant MP for Ultimates anymore, just seems like a superficial reason to pass of UA/UE as bad.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Stereo - 2011-03-06

1st job warrior advance is about 250 hp, and 2nd is 350 for Fighters, if that's all you lose it's not a big deal. Make a Page/Spearman if it bothers you, they only lose out on 120~ mp.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-03-06

Stereo Wrote:1st job warrior advance is about 250 hp, and 2nd is 350 for Fighters, if that's all you lose it's not a big deal. Make a Page/Spearman if it bothers you, they only lose out on 120~ mp.

unlike the level 30 DB's where that loss was somewhat worth crying for.

and i guess rage it is then.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Cavalier - 2011-03-09

Sorry if this question is way too general/big, but can somebody give me a quick rundown of what to put SP in as a leveling DW (starting from 1st job).


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-03-09

Cavalier Wrote:Sorry if this question is way too general/big, but can somebody give me a quick rundown of what to put SP in as a leveling DW (starting from 1st job).

In order:

- 1 point into Soul
- Max out HP Increase
- Max Power Strike and Slash Blast; you can max whichever one first, it depends on what you prefer.
- Max Iron Will with the rest of your points

By Level 30:

Soul (1)
HP Increase (10)
Power Strike (20)
Slash Blast (20)
Iron Will (10)


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Cavalier - 2011-03-09

WillDaSnail Wrote:In order:

- 1 point into Soul
- Max out HP Increase
- Max Power Strike and Slash Blast; you can max whichever one first, it depends on what you prefer.
- Max Iron Will with the rest of your points

By Level 30:

Soul (1)
HP Increase (10)
Power Strike (20)
Slash Blast (20)
Iron Will (10)

I thought it doesn't matter now when I put in HP Increase, seeing as it's just a straight-up percentage HP increase?


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - JoeTang - 2011-03-09

Cavalier Wrote:I thought it doesn't matter now when I put in HP Increase, seeing as it's just a straight-up percentage HP increase?

It doesn't.


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Cavalier - 2011-03-11

Cavalier Wrote:Sorry if this question is way too general/big, but can somebody give me a quick rundown of what to put SP in as a leveling DW (starting from 1st job).
Somebody do 2nd and 3rd?


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - JPTheMonkey - 2011-03-11

Cavalier Wrote:Somebody do 2nd and 3rd?

2nd job (My Build):
1 Blade
1 Rush, 2 Mastery
Max Mastery
6 Booster
Max Blade
Max Rush
Max Rage
Max Booster
Leftovers into FA

3rd (My Build):
Max Driver
Max Combo or Holy
Max the other
Save 20 or 15 for Brandish
Max Coma or Panic
Save for Advanced Combo (After adding points to Brandish)
Max the other (Coma/Panic)
Finish Brandish if needed, max FA, or work on Improved MP Recovery

End result:
MAX Booster, Rush, Rage, Blade, Mastery, and possibly FA for 2nd
MAX Combo, Holy, Driver, Coma, Panic, Brandish, and possibly Improved MP (or some in it, otherwise)


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Puppeteer - 2011-03-14

I'm level 51 and I have 80 dex.
This is the recommended amount (Auto-assign), is this bad? :/ I'm gonna stop adding dex now, but is it such a big deal that I should remake my cygnus? :/