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The revealed potential thread! - Tim군 - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Actually screenshots of in game events do not prove what formula Nexon actually uses in their code.
- Oh, is that why you have yet to present proof that Nexon actually uses this alleged formula in their code?
>In game event
Are you serious right now. It's the game UI, not an in game EVENT
The revealed potential thread! - Dark Link - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Actually screenshots of in game events do not prove what formula Nexon actually uses in their code.
- Oh, is that why you have yet to present proof that Nexon actually uses this alleged formula in their code?
Since you're so bent on "proving" us wrong, why don't you provide proof that the formula is still additive? Apparently all the evidence in the world isn't enough for you, so now it's your turn to prove the world wrong.
The revealed potential thread! - Shads - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Yes, so this is basically conjecture because you don't know why your damage is being reduced on certain bosses. Moreover, it appears that there is no actual proof to prove that this conjecture is actually true.
- I understand.
I'd like to see you show the coding for Nexon's current PDR formula, otherwise your arguments are invalid as well as your statements. Until you reveal said formula, then the several user's math formula's which conveniently fit the damage reduction taken is conveniently true. And if you choose to ignore me or say that you don't have the time/you absolutely don't care/your just being a troll, then we can render that your statements are yet again invalid and we can move on with our forums. If you chose to reply to me without proper showing of said code, then again your arguments are invalid and you're being no more than a troll. But then again your most likely going to say "Why do I have to listen to someone one the internet?" in which it simply either means A: you're too lazy to show evidece/look into it for yourself B: you can not look into the coding therefore you do not know yourself C: you really do know/don't know but you want to bother us.
Either way you still lose.
Oh and next your going to say "Why don't I show what's in the coding?", my reply would be, "Why do I have to listen to someone else on the internet?". Plus this is my challenge to you, if you back down from the challenge go right ahead.
The revealed potential thread! - Pink Bean - 2013-08-04
this is really happening? lol
have my (nooby) heart for your efforts that i just cubed a little while ago
![[Image: 3TW5j.png]](http://puu.sh/3TW5j.png)
shut up i'm afraid of scrolling.. and 2% dex nebs are nonexistent according to 7 days of owling
The revealed potential thread! - Tim군 - 2013-08-04
Pink Bean Wrote:this is really happening? lol
have my (nooby) heart for your efforts that i just cubed a little while ago
shut up i'm afraid of scrolling.. and 2% dex nebs are nonexistent according to 7 days of owling
you're a cutie
The revealed potential thread! - Takebacker - 2013-08-04
Pink Bean Wrote:this is really happening? lol
have my (nooby) heart for your efforts that i just cubed a little while ago
[IMG]http://puu.sh/3TW5j.png[/IM
shut up i'm afraid of scrolling.. and 2% dex nebs are nonexistent according to 7 days of owling
It's not worth looking for. Nebs revamped in fall (read: november) update. They'll be cheaper for sure.
The revealed potential thread! - Pink Bean - 2013-08-04
Takebacker Wrote:It's not worth looking for. Nebs revamped in fall (read: november) update. They'll be cheaper for sure.
ah really? okay, i'll wait for that.
i guess that's a good thing i can't find any..
The revealed potential thread! - thejman250 - 2013-08-04
Tim군 Wrote:>In game event
Are you serious right now. It's the game UI, not an in game EVENT
- Ignorance at it's finest.
- You've yet to prove that the formula that Nexon uses in their code is multiplicative as you are claiming. I'm waiting for you to actually prove that your claim is true however, I highly doubt that you'll be able to do so.
Dark Link Wrote:Since you're so bent on "proving" us wrong, why don't you provide proof that the formula is still additive? Apparently all the evidence in the world isn't enough for you, so now it's your turn to prove the world wrong.
- You haven't presented anything to "prove wrong" as you have nothing aside from baseless claims and conjecture.
- Moreover, I've never claimed anything about the formula.
- How about you actually read my post properly, if you do actually posses the ability to read.
- Try again.
Star909 Wrote:I'd like to see you show the coding for Nexon's current PDR formula, otherwise your arguments are invalid as well as your statements. Until you reveal said formula, then the several user's math formula's which conveniently fit the damage reduction taken is conveniently true. And if you choose to ignore me or say that you don't have the time/you absolutely don't care/your just being a troll, then we can render that your statements are yet again invalid and we can move on with our forums. If you chose to reply to me without proper showing of said code, then again your arguments are invalid and you're being no more than a troll. But then again your most likely going to say "Why do I have to listen to someone one the internet?" in which it simply either means A: you're too lazy to show evidece/look into it for yourself B: you can not look into the coding therefore you do not know yourself C: you really do know/don't know but you want to bother us.
Either way you still lose.
Oh and next your going to say "Why don't I show what's in the coding?", my reply would be, "Why do I have to listen to someone else on the internet?". Plus this is my challenge to you, if you back down from the challenge go right ahead.
- Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
- My "arguments"? I posted the fact that you need the code to prove what actually exists in the code.
Quote:Until you reveal said formula, then the several user's math formula's which conveniently fit the damage reduction taken is conveniently true.
- Exposed utterly illogical child.
- Using the fallacy of ignorance are you? I'm sorry, dear illogical child however, the fallacious drivel that you have just spouted is false. I suggest that you return to grade school to develop a basic understanding of common sense and simple logic as you evidently, don't even have that. The lack of anyone else providing a conjecture does not make the conjecture that you foolishly pulled out of your rear end true. Again, that is disgustingly fallacious and utterly illogical drivel at it's finest.
- Until you actually have proof, your conjectures and baseless claims, will remain just that. Baseless claims.
- I "lose"? How utterly hilarious. The only one who "loses" anything is you all, because you have no proof that PDR is multiplicative. It's sad, isn't it? That all of your drivel is nothing more than mere conjecture.
- Oh, and that's "you're"*. Evidence*.
- Try again, you poor illogical child.
The revealed potential thread! - Tim군 - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Ignorance at it's finest.
- You've yet to prove that the formula that Nexon uses in their code is multiplicative as you are claiming. I'm waiting for you to actually prove that your claim is true however, I highly doubt that you'll be able to do so.
- You haven't presented anything to "prove wrong" as you have nothing aside from baseless claims and conjecture.
- Moreover, I've never claimed anything about the formula.
- How about you actually read my post properly, if you do actually posses the ability to read.
- Try again.
- Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
- My "arguments"? I posted the fact that you need the code to prove what actually exists in the code.
- Exposed utterly illogical child.
- Using the fallacy of ignorance are you? I'm sorry, dear illogical child however, the fallacious drivel that you have just spouted is false. I suggest that you return to grade school to develop a basic understanding of common sense and simple logic as you evidently, don't even have that. The lack of anyone else providing a conjecture does not make the conjecture that you foolishly pulled out of your rear end true. Again, that is disgustingly fallacious and utterly illogical drivel at it's finest.
- Until you actually have proof, your conjectures and baseless claims, will remain just that. Baseless claims.
- I "lose"? How utterly hilarious. The only one who "loses" anything is you all, because you have no proof that PDR is multiplicative. It's sad, isn't it? That all of your drivel is nothing more than mere conjecture.
- Oh, and that's "you're"*. Evidence*.
- Try again, you poor illogical child.
I fail to see how I'm being ignorant. I'm the one who posted screenshots of the in game UI and you called it an in game event. And I'm the one being ignorant?
What better way to show how the pdr formula works than by showing the UI which shows EXACTLY how much pdr an item adds. I and countless others have provided evidence to show that the new formula is multiplicative but you have not shown ONE piece of evidence that shows otherwise. So who's the one being ignorant?
Oh and by the way, using big words and repeating the word "ignorant" doesn't make you look smart. It just makes you look like an uneducated twat.
The revealed potential thread! - babo - 2013-08-04
Tim군 Wrote:you're a cutie
[MENTION=9606]Pink Bean[/MENTION];
Pretty sure you havent seen how her WA looks like... :S
The revealed potential thread! - CakesXD - 2013-08-04
Tim군 Wrote:I fail to see how I'm being ignorant. I'm the one who posted screenshots of the in game UI and you called it an in game event. And I'm the one being ignorant?
What better way to show how the pdr formula works than by showing the UI which shows EXACTLY how much pdr an item adds. I and countless others have provided evidence to show that the new formula is multiplicative but you have not shown ONE piece of evidence that shows otherwise. So who's the one being ignorant?
Oh and by the way, using big words and repeating the word "ignorant" doesn't make you look smart. It just makes you look like an uneducated twat.
Psst, maybe if we don't respond to him, he'll go away.
You and [MENTION=6037]Dark Link[/MENTION] have given enough information to prove that PDR is indeed multiplicative, and if he can't accept that, then let him bathe in his own ignorance and stupidity.
The revealed potential thread! - KhainiWest - 2013-08-04
Jman Wrote:Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
val·id (vld)
adj.
1. Well grounded; just: a valid objection.
2. Producing the desired results; efficacious: valid methods.
3. Having legal force; effective or binding: a valid title.
4. Logic
a. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived: a valid argument.
b. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise: a valid conclusion.
5. Archaic Of sound health; robust.
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The revealed potential thread! - Pink Bean - 2013-08-04
babo Wrote:Pretty sure you havent seen how her WA looks like... :S
it's a work in progress
raccoon mask + smiley mask is nightmares though c:
The revealed potential thread! - WRiPSTER - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
Oooh.... Poor choice of words...
So if I go to the border, and they check my passport, and its VALID, that's an opinion? Wow. Thanks for the education there.
The revealed potential thread! - Untradeable - 2013-08-04
Khoonoo Wrote:[/COLOR]val·id (vld)
adj.
1. Well grounded; just: a valid objection.
2. Producing the desired results; efficacious: valid methods.
3. Having legal force; effective or binding: a valid title.
4. Logic
a. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived: a valid argument.
b. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise: a valid conclusion.
5. Archaic Of sound health; robust.
The revealed potential thread! - KhainiWest - 2013-08-04
Pink Bean Wrote:it's a work in progress
raccoon mask + smiley mask is nightmares though c:
Yeah...I think the best thing about the smilng mask is the eye patch though. Back when they were uber rare I just wore it with a pirate eye patch. Best looking character in game no contest.
The revealed potential thread! - Arrol - 2013-08-04
Takebacker Wrote:It's not worth looking for. Nebs revamped in fall (read: november) update. They'll be cheaper for sure.
Where did you hear that?
The revealed potential thread! - Shads - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Ignorance at it's finest.
- You've yet to prove that the formula that Nexon uses in their code is multiplicative as you are claiming. I'm waiting for you to actually prove that your claim is true however, I highly doubt that you'll be able to do so.
- You haven't presented anything to "prove wrong" as you have nothing aside from baseless claims and conjecture.
- Moreover, I've never claimed anything about the formula.
- How about you actually read my post properly, if you do actually posses the ability to read.
- Try again.
- Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
- My "arguments"? I posted the fact that you need the code to prove what actually exists in the code.
- Exposed utterly illogical child.
- Using the fallacy of ignorance are you? I'm sorry, dear illogical child however, the fallacious drivel that you have just spouted is false. I suggest that you return to grade school to develop a basic understanding of common sense and simple logic as you evidently, don't even have that. The lack of anyone else providing a conjecture does not make the conjecture that you foolishly pulled out of your rear end true. Again, that is disgustingly fallacious and utterly illogical drivel at it's finest.
- Until you actually have proof, your conjectures and baseless claims, will remain just that. Baseless claims.
- I "lose"? How utterly hilarious. The only one who "loses" anything is you all, because you have no proof that PDR is multiplicative. It's sad, isn't it? That all of your drivel is nothing more than mere conjecture.
- Oh, and that's "you're"*. Evidence*.
- Try again, you poor illogical child.
I still see no evidence from your part who I assume knows some coding compared to someone who knows no coding at all.
So I'm guessing you also do not know. I don't see why we continue a pointless conversation based on someone who doesn't even try to make any assumption on how the formulas work other than "it's in Nexon's game coding", or should I say "a baseless claim". Also suddenly I am illogical because you have no proof on how the current formula works yet other users have at least attempted to show how the formula works. Ok thanks. It's the internet who cares about grammar, if I was in an English class I would accept that however I don't see how this makes me anymore illogical. Validity is subjective? I do not understand this.
I think I'm done here, don't want to put up with anymore of your asinine tomfoolery of calling people ignorant of at least trying to figure out a forumla or on people whom you do not know. If you would like to quote me on this, that's fine but your really more or less just talking to a wall now, and would be ignorant to even continue with me.
The revealed potential thread! - Takebacker - 2013-08-04
Arrol Wrote:Where did you hear that?
Girasol+other evidence. Speculation ultimately but it follows at least.
The revealed potential thread! - Derosis - 2013-08-04
thejman250 Wrote:- Validity is subjective and hence, an opinion.
- Exposed utterly illogical child.
Oh the ironing. Should take a little bit of your own medicine and read your own shit and proofread.