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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - JoeTang - 2014-03-17

Jonatan Wrote:As a Demon Hunter, when you have end-game equips, what combination is better, dual wielding crossbows, crossbow + quiver or bow + quiver?

Shidoshi Wrote:I don't think there's anything better than the Legacy Manticores with 2 slots + the new Dead Man's Legacy quiver.

Legacy Calamity with a Radiant Star/Marquise Ruby + Quiver is competitive with 2os Manticore. The strongest Legacy Bow is Windforce, and I don't think it's very competitive unless you have a 2.0.1 Strongarm's Bracer.

In 2.0.1. the best bow is probably Kridershot. Longshot/Unbound Bolt and Venomhust/Sydyru Crust might be able to roll well enough to compete. Kridershot allowing for a 300% Generator makes it significantly more powerful in that regard, even if it might roll lower than the other bows; except it autorolls DEX and a socket as well as its damage.

Buriza's special effect might make it competitive with certain builds. I don't think Manticore, or any other Crossbow rolls enough damage to compete. It seems they use the same damage range as Bows, meaning they're 1.4/1.1x weaker. Depending on how Demon Machine's explosive bolts function, it might be good though.

For Hand Crossbows, the new Calamity is decent. Dual-wielding Danetta's looks like it would be good. Any other DW combination is probably not worth the loss compared to using a good quiver. The damage rolls on Hand Crossbows seem to be enough to compete with Bows.

The new Quivers are actually competitive with Legacy Deadman's Legacy (lol) since they can roll such a high amount of DEX for damage to compensate the best Deadman's 300/300 DEX/VIT rolls. Black Bone Arrows can random roll up to 524 DEX and have one more random roll. These particular ones are craftable, and have 3% less max IAS, but compensate with 4-7% Elite Damage as well.

I think overall, Hand Crossbow or Bow with quiver is the better choice unless you're comparing a rare with a legendary. The only reason I would use a Crossbow is if I wanted to guarantee an OHKO with an attack/have higher damage per cast instead of damage per second.
This is using the data they provide in the game guide, so the damage rolls for Crossbows might be wrong on there, though as far as I am aware, that information is pulled from the game's own database.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Jonatan - 2014-03-17

JoeTang Wrote:Legacy Calamity with a Radiant Star/Marquise Ruby + Quiver is competitive with 2os Manticore. The strongest Legacy Bow is Windforce, and I don't think it's very competitive unless you have a 2.0.1 Strongarm's Bracer.

In 2.0.1. the best bow is probably Kridershot. Longshot/Unbound Bolt and Venomhust/Sydyru Crust might be able to roll well enough to compete. Kridershot allowing for a 300% Generator makes it significantly more powerful in that regard, even if it might roll lower than the other bows; except it autorolls DEX and a socket as well as its damage.

Buriza's special effect might make it competitive with certain builds. I don't think Manticore, or any other Crossbow rolls enough damage to compete. It seems they use the same damage range as Bows, meaning they're 1.4/1.1x weaker. Depending on how Demon Machine's explosive bolts function, it might be good though.

For Hand Crossbows, the new Calamity is decent. Dual-wielding Danetta's looks like it would be good. Any other DW combination is probably not worth the loss compared to using a good quiver. The damage rolls on Hand Crossbows seem to be enough to compete with Bows.

The new Quivers are actually competitive with Legacy Deadman's Legacy (lol) since they can roll such a high amount of DEX for damage to compensate the best Deadman's 300/300 DEX/VIT rolls. Black Bone Arrows can random roll up to 524 DEX and have one more random roll. These particular ones are craftable, and have 3% less max IAS, but compensate with 4-7% Elite Damage as well.

I think overall, Hand Crossbow or Bow with quiver is the better choice unless you're comparing a rare with a legendary. The only reason I would use a Crossbow is if I wanted to guarantee an OHKO with an attack/have higher damage per cast instead of damage per second.
This is using the data they provide in the game guide, so the damage rolls for Crossbows might be wrong on there, though as far as I am aware, that information is pulled from the game's own database.

Thanks alot Joe!, I still have a long way to go until I reach that.

Anyways, I could use some friends!, add Slothie#1632

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Justin - 2014-03-17

I would definitely recommend using a Kridershot if you happen to get lucky enough to find one... it's absolutely the best bow available right now.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Arcana27961 - 2014-03-17

I'm using this build at the moment. Gale Force and Mirror Images-Duplicates work really well together. While it's good in dungeons, I definitely have issues killing things in open spaces. :/ I'm wondering if I should change my spender to Scorch and leave my Images to use Gale Force for the damage buff. If I do that though, I'll have to say goodbye to Magic Weapon... Sad

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Razmos - 2014-03-17

Bam.
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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - IllegallySane - 2014-03-17

Dark Link Wrote:How do you level so fast? Just speedrun Hard / Master difficulty or something?

Naw. I just hit CoTA and Cath 4 as soon as possible; for Cath 4, I usually TP back and remake if I have to backtrack a lot to find more mobs to kill. I usually use speed oriented skills to get there faster. As for what I do:

-I cranked the difficulty up to Masters from the get-go, and max paragon points into main/attack speed/all resist/area damage. Skip all dialogue and cut scenes.

-Hellfire Ring helped a lot in almost one shotting lowbie mobs until I got to 16+ for a socketed weapon.

-I always try to go for a build that emphasized burst massive AoE damage, fast resource generators, and passives that give damage boosts and/or more reliable resource generation. Some examples:
1. So for Demon Hunter my passives were Archery/Steady Aim/Blood Vengance. I had Preparation - Punishment to turn Discipline into Hatred, and Multishot - Suppressive Fire to give back Discipline so fast I can spam Multishot
indefinitely as long as there's more than 4-5 mobs to hit. Rain of Vengeance - Shade was for the huge AoE burst whenever I see a gigantic mob group. Other skill slots were filled according to preference. Trust me when I say I was changing my build about every couple levels until I reached my optimal set of skills.
2. Currently, my Monk is using Exploding Palm - Strong Spirit and Cyclone Strike - Implosion to recover Spirit really fast. I have maxed times maxed out my Spirit from 0 to 250 in a second thanks to clumping up so many mobs before Exploding Palm went off.

-I have level 42-45 850-1,000 DPS weapons waiting for me. I usually crank it up to Torment I around here, and keep going until it's too hard and finish to 60 on Masters or keep it on Torment 1 if I could handle it.

-I usually keep the Cain Set on until I can use my level reduced weapons and make a fine paste out of the mobs (so I essentially use the set from levels 23-45)

-Use Haedrig to keep gear up to date as much as possible.

-I always make sure the Templar has Inspire for the increased resource generation. Naturally I gotta give him a shield and such so he doesn't die in a few hits at the higher levels.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Dark Link - 2014-03-17

The AH shuts down permanently tomorrow. Better sell off anything that's possibly of value.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Foolyz - 2014-03-17

ERMAHGERD SHOULD I SELL

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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - IllegallySane - 2014-03-17

Dark Link Wrote:The AH shuts down permanently tomorrow. Better sell off anything that's possibly of value.

Selling off a bunch of Topazes. Hopefully they sell out quick.

Also, took Blizzard forever (well 5 days) to give me my $10 so I could purchase some gold off the RMAH before it shuts down forever. Too bad I forgot to check just how much they were selling before I charged a measly ten clams, could've charge ~$20-$25 and at least held 150 million.



Obligatory 60 cap pic.

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And it was really close this time. Monk just capped 60 a minute faster than my Demon Hunter. Witch Doctor and Wizard left, then I can take it easy until the expansion. I'd love to cap a Hardcore character while the event is still up, but I'd rather do it at a relaxed pace than trying to YOLO it and die from a stupid mistake.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Foolyz - 2014-03-17

Razmos Wrote:Bam.
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Hunty pls

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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - IllegallySane - 2014-03-17

Foolyz Wrote:ERMAHGERD SHOULD I SELL

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I sold mines for ~800k if you need the gold. Also last night/day to sell.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Foolyz - 2014-03-17

IllegallySane Wrote:I sold mines for ~800k if you need the gold. Also last night/day to sell.

Speeding through the early 60's is worth a lot more to me than 800k. :O

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - IllegallySane - 2014-03-18

Foolyz Wrote:Speeding through the early 60's is worth a lot more to me than 800k. :O

Well that's pretty much true. You can always keep it as memento of pre-2.0 loot.



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It's insane how fast I can level on my own without exploiting quests/party leeching. Just tied with Monk for time spent to level. One to go! Wizard is cruise control for easy mode, hence why I save her for last.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Justin - 2014-03-18

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oh mah gerd finally ;_; I'm worried I won't be able to get a second or third piece in time for the exp at this rate...

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Dark Link - 2014-03-18

RIP in Pepperoni Auction House.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - JoeTang - 2014-03-18

Truly, the greatest loss is the ability to check my god damned inventories without entering a game.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - MuscleWizard - 2014-03-18

got my new rig set up, going to download the game later tonight

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Phoenix Wright - 2014-03-18

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I found my first truly decent shiny. I'm loving that Disintegrate damage roll.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Shidoshi - 2014-03-18

Running my Witch Doctor with a pet build. Firebats/Vampire Bats summons new Fetishes really fast with the passive, but I'm not sure if attack speed affects that or not (or even FB's damage). Still a lot faster than using other skills like Firebomb or Jar of Spiders.
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Still not sure exactly what is affected by that, but seems like the little Fetishes are and Spider Queen too.

Diablo III: Reaper of Souls - Malthe - 2014-03-18

Shidoshi Wrote:but I'm not sure if attack speed affects that or not

AFAIK it does affect it, i definitely summon more after i got a good ceremonial dagger over the staff i was using.