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Ask an Aran thread. - Amphigory - 2009-11-22

kranten Wrote:How useful is slow at himes? When I stop training there I'll have charge maxed anyway.


I meant 2-3 'chains',

normal attack + double + triple + final toss is 5 combos per 'chain' (hit) right?

You'll outdamage a fenrir before ice build by far with the ice before fenrir build because critical's power and frequency are only at their peak when your combo is 100+.
Really, the only reason fenrir is maxed is because whirlwind sucks and fenrir is just barely useful when you're going to lose your combo anyways (like at skeles/wyverns on the bottom panel or at Oblivion when you have to climb a rope and rebuff).

Ask an Aran thread. - kranten - 2009-11-23

So what's the recommended build?

70~77 max triple swing
77~84 max critical combo
84~94 max final toss
94~100 max snow charge
100~110 max fenrir

Ask an Aran thread. - Amphigory - 2009-11-23

kranten Wrote:So what's the recommended build?

70~77 max triple swing
77~84 max critical combo
84~94 max final toss
94~100 max snow charge
100~110 max fenrir

This, except snow charge before toss, and Smart KB somewhere in there Shine

Ask an Aran thread. - Super_cyp - 2009-11-27

I capped my pirates dex at level 70.. I'm not sure what to cap my dex at on my Aran, I don't want to go dexless or super low.. So what would the average dex for an Aran around 70? I've searched warrior threads and it's hard to find what I'm looking for. ^^; Thanks Big Grin

Ask an Aran thread. - Chameleonic - 2009-11-27

How do Arans cope with acc? I've never played a warrior, will 17 acc from my MM's Blessing help my noob Aran a lot if I go dexless?

Ask an Aran thread. - KatanaKiwi - 2009-11-27

yes it will help you a lot but you'll still have some accuracy problems. at lvl 50 you'll need to make a well scrolled accuracy zakum helmet. untill then you can use dex overalls. the eassiest and cheapest way to get some nice accuracy at start is to buy a lvl 30 or 35 warrior overall and scroll them with 100% overall dex scroll for the kerning city swamp scroll npc. you can also use accuracy pills from ludibrium.

this way its fairly well possible to leave your dex capped between 4 and 23. dont go over 23 dex because then you cant reach 999str at lvl 200

edit: some additional info that might help you,
1dex = 0,8 accuracy
1luk = 0,5 accuracy
that means a clean zakum helm average gives 39,5 accuracy

stuff like an aran ring (3/3/3/3) allready gives 3,9 accuracy. since we have a lot of equips that add points to all stats i think you should proffit from that. those equips add both str for your dmg and accuracy for hitting stuff. that way you can leave other equips left to scroll purely for dmg, not worrying about accuracy

Ask an Aran thread. - StormMike - 2009-11-27

Dont forget the 500combo medal. It gives +3 luk/dex and 5 Accuracy.
Also 17accuracy is huge I only get 8 a 9 accuracy difference can make a difference from 80% to 100% hit.
Also you are better off using a bathrobe for speed.
Later in higher lvls when you can 100% the monsters you train on switch to top/bottom which will lower your accuracy so make sure you plan ahead of time.
And speed shoes>accuracy shoes same for cape until higher lvls.
In no event get a Accuracy glove adding dex is a much better idea.
To be dexless you only need around 300m check the thread on lolbasil to go on basil its under the warrior section.

Ask an Aran thread. - BoxTag - 2009-11-27

So i have a 99/13 karstan ready for Aran. How long will this last me? Order of goodness seems to be Purp Surfboard->Arcglave->Red Surfboard -> Eclipse -> Karstan. So should I go for makering/scrolling an Eclipse to use at 80, or will the karstan be fine for longer? Note that once I get a zhelm I won't really need the karstan's acc until Time temple shenanigans.

Ask an Aran thread. - WayOfTime - 2009-11-27

I know you guys may be tired hearing about this, but I updated my calculator again. This time I added the correct attacking speeds, with the help of the guys in the attack-speed reference thread. This is an excel spread sheet

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jwy0rrbmjon/Aran_Book_V_3.xlsx

Here is a file in compatability mode.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mrwnyfnyjjy/Aran_Book_V_3_Compatability.xls

Here is the low-down of the items:
-All first-fourth job attacking skills
-All buffs that control damage and attack speeds
-Damage-recieved calculator
-Critical damages
-Max and min damages
-Damage per shot
-DPS
-Average HKO
-Chance to OHKO
-HKO range
-Chance of KB (Has smart KB)
-Meso/shot
-EXP/shot

Have fun!


Edit: sorry I added this to this thread.

Ask an Aran thread. - BoxTag - 2009-11-27

Is the "PA COMBO COUNT" box the current combo divided by 10? If so why does it only let me go up to 5 and not 10?
Thanks

Ask an Aran thread. - WayOfTime - 2009-11-27

BoxTag Wrote:Is the "PA COMBO COUNT" box the current combo divided by 10? If so why does it only let me go up to 5 and not 10?
Thanks
Knew I needed to change something! I'll check that right away. Yes, it is the combo divided by ten, but does not effect the critical. Critical Count changes that.

Just checked it, and it appears the info in the error box is wrong. You CAN raise it to 10, but the error message says from 0-5. Ill edit it later.

Edit: Since the Aran's damage lowers per monster for every extra monster hit, I am going to slowly change the damages for the aran attacks. This will all be done with the help of this thread: http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15602

Ask an Aran thread. - Moonlapse - 2009-11-28

The 2 best endgame weapons are Purple surfboards and Arcglaves, right?

Ask an Aran thread. - Rei - 2009-11-28

Moonlapse Wrote:The 2 best endgame weapons are Purple surfboards and Arcglaves, right?

Right.
Lesser options could be 105+ Maple Karstans or 120+ Red Surfboards.

Ask an Aran thread. - StormMike - 2009-11-28

Rei Wrote:Right.
Lesser options could be 105+ Maple Karstans or 120+ Red Surfboards.

Or eclipse but Ive heard from slow 7 to normal 6 is not a huge difference im not sure by how much though.

Ask an Aran thread. - DeanNim - 2009-11-28

Just a referance,

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Ask an Aran thread. - Stereo - 2009-11-28

+8 with 0 hammers applied? wtp?

Ask an Aran thread. - shouri - 2009-11-28

I'm guessing it dealt with the whole white scroll/clean slate glitch.

Ask an Aran thread. - Chameleonic - 2009-11-28

Maybe it was one of those 9 slot weapons from gacha MSEA has ?


Would a 110 atk Karstan be close to an endgame weapon?

Ask an Aran thread. - DeanNim - 2009-11-28

yeah, since ppl rarely gacha in nlc here... most of the raven weapons and other masteria weapons came from gold boxes.

Ask an Aran thread. - StormMike - 2009-11-28

Chameleonic Wrote:Maybe it was one of those 9 slot weapons from gacha MSEA has ?


Would a 110 atk Karstan be close to an endgame weapon?

I have a 109karstan but I feel like I can do much better just wait for purple surfboard gold box lol or try to get a arcglaive.