Derosis Wrote:It is true. 99% of bronzies are uncarryable. So disgusting :C

hongyu Wrote:I wouldn't say 99%, it's not like all your teammates are going to lose bad every single time. Ofc if all your teammates lose and it gets past a certain point then it is uncarryable. If the people are as bad as you say then you can just kill them then take towers asap. Not like junglers are going to cover if it's that bad.

note: I was bronze 3 at start of season and 800-900 elo in season 2, plat now. Learned many things from streams and applied in order to carry. If something doesn't work I either drop it or find out why it doesn't work. Had to switch between multiple builds/champs to adapt because some are better if you just get fed while dangerous if not and some are better for teamplay but doesn't work as well in some elos.

A lot of things I learned in bronze/silver was wrong and from that I improved. You don't need to group as "5" and push mid all the time just because you got a really small advantage or group as 5 to defend a tower mid game unless they are really far ahead. You only dive if your advantage is extremely extremely high. You can constantly pressure other lanes and poke down the tower, take drags. If they engage on you guys, then you guys should win if you are ahead, else if you are defending under tower. You guys will be even and someone can probably take a tower in another lane.

Like stonewall said in a video, many players in bronze/silver lacks knowledge, even if they are mechanically good. They lack knowledge of the game. They underestimate unpopular champ picks like urgot/poppy/skarner and they when they get crapped on because urgot/poppy/skarner does a craploads of damage. They are like holy crap how did I lose to x pick. They also do things like attack you even if you have 10+ minion advantage. Showing that they know little about how much damage minion aggro does to them and they just start running at low hp because they do not know their damage output.

Derosis Wrote:Btw I forgot to mention to I was playing with a buddy. I literally just played some soloQ games to help my buddy out teaching him support. I played every role, minus carry jungle & support, and I couldn't even get the team fed. They mostly let them all go lol.

Connor Wrote:No gapcloser definitely hurts him. The new triforce is amazing on Trundle as it lets him stick to his target easier, so definitely at the very least get a Phage somewhere in your build, preferably early if you can (Spirit of Ancient Golem + Boots + Phage would be a good base I think). As for ganking Liss, Zed, Ez you're gonna have difficulty regardless because they can just easily blink away. I guess keep on eye on them if they blink early and gank while it's on cooldown.

Trundle does excel at counterganking, invading, and duels though so if you can't pull a gank off yourself try and pick fights elsewhere or just cause havoc in the enemy's jungle.

hongyu Wrote:in low elo you just take all the kills and then take objectives yourself, when your teammates die/leaves. Always tax the lane and push to tower. Get as much damage on it as possible. Start doing things by yourself so that the opponent is behind even though your laner might be behind as well. Don't go too much into tank/teamplay champs, go for snowballing ones that can dominate and just destroy towers. In your game it's uncarryable. But I mean over long period of time, if you are good. Your win rate should rise easily. Even in gold I had people feed, but it's my job to carry them now isn't it? Always assume your lanes will lose. As you rise up the ladder you can depend on your teammates more, but at best you can only assume they can go even(being able to hold and do as well as the opponent)

Link Wrote:That's good advice. I'm really considering diving back into ranked with my friend (what's there really to lose? Resets happen soon) and hope to aim for silver at the least (we're pretty sure we at least belong in silver). What kind of champions would you say one should focus on for carrying/focusing towers like you said? I have Udyr, Volibear, Jarvan, Jax and Xin Zhao for attack speed junglers, though I've only really practiced and Udyr and Volibear. I've been told by high level players that these two are really good to carry yourself out of bronze, silver and gold with, but are there any other specific junglers I should focus on learning?

Foxino Wrote:Demoted! I keep getting teams with no idea of team comps and how to team fight/push. (ex. No CC, No true Tank, No engage, Master Yi's diving in 1v5 because they are somewhat fed ) the game i got demoted from I was the tankyest on our team as the freakingggg adc.

I really want silver before the end of this season I've even tried duoing with silver/gold level players but it seems even they cannot handle the hellish pit which we call bronze.

Foxino Wrote:Demoted! I keep getting teams with no idea of team comps and how to team fight/push. (ex. No CC, No true Tank, No engage, Master Yi's diving in 1v5 because they are somewhat fed ) the game i got demoted from I was the tankyest on our team as the freakingggg adc.

I really want silver before the end of this season I've even tried duoing with silver/gold level players but it seems even they cannot handle the hellish pit which we call bronze.

Foxino Wrote:hence why i said team fight/push. Yi was just diving on the entire team without hesitation or thought. ;_;

Was that your placement? If so, enjoy it while you can.

Dredragon Wrote:Was that your placement? If so, enjoy it while you can.

Dredragon Wrote:The servers have been lagging out the ass lately, pretty sure we're not the only ones feeling it, right hongyu?