Polantaris Wrote:Assuming you didn't lie about when you got your PM, and considering you got the PM so late after the day started, I want to say it's a day ability that mimics someone's night ability. That or Meta screwed up, but I doubt it.



Did you prime yourself for detonation as part of your night action, or as a result of the failed lynch? The fact that the lynch failure is such an unknown this time makes me worried about what might happen today.

Holypie Wrote:Well my role is that I get to look at a persons files and I get to know if they're a threat to the town. So to me, as a townie, I don't really care if it's a harmful third party neutral (who killed the most helpful townie and who happened to be the doctor too) or mafia. So you're now mafia, if you don't blow me up I guess we can leave you alone. What's your win condition by the way?

So that leaves Cakes, meow, Hypermug, Luv, CJ, and Polantaris.

I think I'll [vote] Hypermug, because I was kind of suspicious of him before, but since my investigation was blocked I'm not sure but I'm not sure who else we can kill. Everyone's basically just equally suspicious, nothing against Mug in particular. If there are any better suggestions I'm open.

Hypermug Wrote:I'm not. Meta made a mistake and said he forgot to send the PM during the night. Maybe he can verify that, but it would be horrible to be lynched due to an accident that I had nothing to do with.



Wow. The only thing that I've done that was the slightest bit suspicious was offer to make the vote a tie, but then that was taken in a negative light. Other than that, I don't see what I've done that justifies a vote. "I'm voting for you because I couldn't get my investigation off." Okay, that's not crummy at all. At least I've tried to be active, but everyone else gets a free pass because.

Sorry if I sound like an ass, I'm just not feeling well due to a having a toothache and some kind of sickness. You guys do what you want. I have no role so I can't do anything but sit around. MasPan can blow me the f*** up whenever he wants to.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]That would be a neat trick when I have absolutely no ability to do so in the first place. Unless you somehow got splashed with oil by being near me last night from whatever night action you might have.

Assuming you're not completely making this s**t up.
[vote]HyperMug[/COLOR]

Hypermug Wrote:Did you not just say that when you ignite primed targets, all of them are set off?

ChaoticCJ Wrote:This is the part that scares me most. The longer we wait to lynch MasPan, the more powerful he gets.

I also find it hard to believe that he can ignite himself and two other targets.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]This is not true. I can only have two targets primed at any time. Currently myself and Holypie; , hence my belief that Hypermug; is lying his ass off.

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Also, my win condition does not end the game, it's merely a requirement for me to be included with whoever the winning side is. Which presently looks like it will be town. You do realize I can function as a repeat vigilante if we uncover two worthy lynch targets at the same time, right?[/COLOR]

Hypermug Wrote:I'm not. Meta made a mistake and said he forgot to send the PM during the night. Maybe he can verify that, but it would be horrible to be lynched due to an accident that I had nothing to do with.



Wow. The only thing that I've done that was the slightest bit suspicious was offer to make the vote a tie, but then that was taken in a negative light. Other than that, I don't see what I've done that justifies a vote. "I'm voting for you because I couldn't get my investigation off." Okay, that's not crummy at all. At least I've tried to be active, but everyone else gets a free pass because.

Sorry if I sound like an ass, I'm just not feeling well due to a having a toothache and some kind of sickness. You guys do what you want. I have no role so I can't do anything but sit around. MasPan can blow me the f*** up whenever he wants to.

Hypermug Wrote:For what reason would I lie about being doused? How does that benefit me at all? And honestly, for a big chunk of this game we were concerned about finding the arsonist and then you finally speak up like nothing happened.

But what is really getting under my skin is how Holypie did an investigation on you and for some reason is believing this nonsense you are spewing out. Does it really make sense that by burning yourself, you'd be included in the winning side? You'd be dead.

Polantaris Wrote:Honestly, I have no idea which of you is full of it. One of you has to be (Hypermug vs MasPan).

On one hand, MasPan's threat is pretty much pointless. Holypie will be killed by the mafia tonight, there's absolutely no reason he wouldn't be (he's definitely the biggest threat to them). I assume that the reason he wasn't killed last night was because either Razmos paid the price jailing him or the mafia assumed that Holypie was going to get nuked today anyway and didn't bother. MasPan could be truthful about the part where he is not nuking Holypie on good faith, however he may be lying about dousing himself in an attempt to save himself.

On the other hand, Hypermug's reactions are absolutely ridiculous. He's definitely acting very abnormally to Holypie's self-admitted random vote. Unfortunately, this screams scum to me. Even with MasPan's suspicious actions and potentially fake claims, he's said enough to make me believe that he is neutral which means that lynching him does the town no good. [Vote] Hypermug

LuvDWayULie Wrote:[Vote] HyperMug

I have no clue... and since Holypie is a cop, I believe him.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]

So? All I care about is burning things. I am a thing. I am flammable. Thus I am a thing that I can burn. In fact, it's kindof beautiful in a way, there's a nice finality to it. Think of mass shootings - in most cases the final victim is the shooter themselves.[/COLOR]

ChaoticCJ Wrote:Honestly, I am still wary of outright trusting MasPan, but given his limitations and everyone's willingness to believe him-I will remove my vote.

I do find it strange the fact that Hypermug was doused as well. I wonder how that would work in terms of the game, but I guess if he is lynched it doesn't matter too much. I guess it is just my curiosity getting the better of me.

So MasPan if you don't mind me asking, can you become un-primed by Day 5 or will that take another day? This is under the assumption that Hyper and Holypie don't survive the night.

Hypermug Wrote:Call my reaction ridiculous if you want, but it seems like few people are seeing this from my perspective. How would you feel if you made it toward the end of the game only for someone to erroneously claim that you were acting suspicious and then the person who supposedly was "confirmed" mafia and was acting shady the whole time weaves a story and convinces everyone that they are neutral?


Sounds great, but I refuse to believe that even though you are no longer here you still "win." Otherwise, you should have done that ages ago. But whatever.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]
It goes by the order I prime people in. So it would take day 6 for me to unprime myself by priming a target tonight and a target tomorrow. Unless Hypermug; is telling the truth, in which case his priming *might* count towards my two limit (which would mean Holypie; is already in the clear. Holypie; hasn't said anything about no longer being doused, so I'm inclined to believe that's not the case).

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Except I was never confirmed as a mafian, Holypie; apparently misunderstood his result PM that I was not town to mean I was a mafian. And I would NOT have ignited myself ages ago, because I need to ignite a certain number of people before doing so in order to be counted amongst the winning team. I've ignited 1 singular person. Tonight I can finally prime the person who targeted me on Night 1, though (a mafian, presumably - I woke up in a pile of needles and syringes and one of my protections had been triggered). This will remove the priming from Holypie as well.[/COLOR]

Hypermug Wrote:What I meant was that if you really wanted to, you could have chose any 3 people (I'm assuming that's the number you need to win. You, one other person, and Shidoshi) and just called it a day instead of trying to get revenge.

LuvDWayULie Wrote:[Vote] HyperMug

I have no clue... and since Holypie is a cop, I believe him.

Polantaris Wrote:Honestly, I have no idea which of you is full of it. One of you has to be (Hypermug vs MasPan).

On one hand, MasPan's threat is pretty much pointless. Holypie will be killed by the mafia tonight, there's absolutely no reason he wouldn't be (he's definitely the biggest threat to them). I assume that the reason he wasn't killed last night was because either Razmos paid the price jailing him or the mafia assumed that Holypie was going to get nuked today anyway and didn't bother. MasPan could be truthful about the part where he is not nuking Holypie on good faith, however he may be lying about dousing himself in an attempt to save himself.

On the other hand, Hypermug's reactions are absolutely ridiculous. He's definitely acting very abnormally to Holypie's self-admitted random vote. Unfortunately, this screams scum to me. Even with MasPan's suspicious actions and potentially fake claims, he's said enough to make me believe that he is neutral which means that lynching him does the town no good. [Vote] Hypermug

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]
You're implying I care about winning when there's fun to be had. I take being attacked as something personal, so I'm going to attempt to get revenge. Just because I can include myself in the number I need to win doesn't mean I want to be removed from the game so early. It's the same reason I've never used the "hide in the shadows and rarely/never post" strategy.

You're also assuming my number is 3. It could be more. It might not be.[/COLOR]

Holypie Wrote:This really isn't any reason to believe me, I was a bit suspicious about Mug because I knew nothing about him so that's why I investigated him, but really he's just a big question mark to me.



The whole reason I was making a huge deal about being a dead man walking is so that the mafia wouldn't kill me and I could get another investigation off. It worked but they killed Razmos while he jailed me so that kind of backfired a bit.

And yeah, Mug is acting a little crazy. I can understand that it's stressful to be voted against but honestly, my reasoning was pretty weak (I even said that it was basically no reason at all) and you could have easily pointed at another person and I probably would have followed along, but your freaking out has kind of cemented my suspicions of you.

Mas was never confirmed mafia, my result PMs are horrifically vague. Since I got the same PM when I investigated Kyrastri as I did when I checked Mas, I deduced that he was mafia but that wasn't the case. If he wins with us, then that's fine by me if he proves helpful. If he steps out of line though, we can easily lynch him because I'm quite certain that his immunity is gone. MasPan; you're going to kill the person who tried to kill you on night 1 right? Hopefully you live long enough to pull the trigger.



Yeah, honestly that does sound like a fun role. You've been getting a lot of fun roles these past games lol.

Hypermug Wrote:Why didn't you say that before when you told everyone they were being mean for targeting Cakes and Meow for being inactive and how we should definitely vote for MasPan? And I told you guys I wasn't feeling well (doing better today), even though that doesn't make it okay to "freak out." I honestly disliked being labeled suspicious with everyone else when I felt like I really wasn't.

Anywho, it looks like anything I say doesn't matter at this point, so the town will get rid of a townie, the mafia will get rid of one more tonight, and I'll be off to the side face-palming and playing smash bros
Sorry that I ended up causing more confusion than help in the long run.

Holypie Wrote:Read the next sentence. I got the same result for Kyra and Mas, and Kyra was mafia. Mas didn't come out as the arsonist until today. Am I supposed to mistrust all of my results? Should I worry about every possible scenario, no matter how unlikely? With the information that I had, the most likely scenario was that Mas was mafia.

And it's not that anyone is suspicious, it's that nobody is suspicious and that makes everyone equally suspicious.

Hypermug Wrote:My mistake, I don't expect you to mistrust your results, but I guess it would have been nice to have known if they were vague and left the possibilities open that he could have been neutral from the beginning.