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A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-09-06 Uneventful for me as well. Gotta head to work, then I'll give some thoughts. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Shidoshi - 2014-09-06 Hoho, I was right on Day 1 about Niernen. Feels good. Uneventful night for me too. No use discussing the Night's results, let's discuss what's important: who to lynch. Mas' suggestion of y0y0y0y0shi0 isn't bad, considering his behavior yesterday. Even though he voted LuvD it was around the same time LuvD voted for himself and Niernen voted for his mafia buddy too, so likely after the mafia decided it was a good idea to bus LuvD. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-09-07 y0y0y0y0shi0 might be a good idea, but I dunno. For now, I want to ask... [MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION]; [MENTION=521]Salguod[/MENTION]; [MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; What's going on guys? A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-09-07 Nothing happened to me during the night either. I'll comment about suspicious people tomorrow when I've had a chance to review suspects. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - ChaoticCJ - 2014-09-07 My night also happened to be uneventful. I guess that just leaves Meta left to bring any other information. The vote for y0y0y0y0shi0 has as much logic as any other vote that will probably happen today. I do want to see what VerrKol and Meta have to say, but I guess that will have to wait for a bit. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-09-07 Nothing happened to me last night. As for a lynch target I would like to point out that 2 out of the 3 people that voted for TheBirds turned out to be mafia, the only one left is Hypermug. At the time Hypermug voted there was two votes for Shidoshi and two for TheBirds. Niernen started TheBirds lynch based off of them not being very active in early days, Luv continued based on the same reasons and Hypermug finished the lynch by going with Luv. And let's not forget how both Luv's and Hyper's votes came in at the end of D1. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-09-07 MetaSeraphim Wrote:Nothing happened to me last night. As for a lynch target I would like to point out that 2 out of the 3 people that voted for TheBirds turned out to be mafia, the only one left is Hypermug.[COLOR="#cc8899"] I find it hard to believe the mafia is so stupid as to all (or mostly) vote for the same target on Day 1. That's...a little silly. In fact I am surprised you would suggest it, considering your experience. I tend to evaluate mafians based on "What would I do" or "Would I do ___" and...I personally would be very frustrated with a mafia that did that. It is possible as a gambit based on that exact skepticism, but I find it unlikely.[/COLOR] A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-09-07 MasPan Wrote:It is possible as a gambit based on that exact skepticism, but I find it unlikely. -shurg- Seems like each time we butt heads it ends in gambits and WIFOMing. I merely pointing out how the votes played out I wasn't saying we should remember what happened. That is why I put it out there without a vote because I wanted to see what opinion everyone else had on the subject. MasPan Wrote:In fact I am surprised you would suggest it, considering your experience. I tend to evaluate mafians based on "What would I do" or "Would I do ___" And on this note while both of us are very good at mafia and playing as mafia together we have completely different playstyles. Your what I would do is different from my what I would do. I am personally a fan of those "mafia would never do something so stupid" moments since no one expects them or sees them coming. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Shidoshi - 2014-09-07 Hypermug is dead already, he suicided with Kyra, he was town. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-09-07 That shows how much I am paying attention. Sorry. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-09-07 I'm fairly certain Mas is a white walker here. I have what appears to be a pseudo-investigative role? I'm Satin, and I can use my powers of seduction (?????) to learn something about the setup each night. I asked what that meant exactly and I guess I can learn a random small tidbit about anyone, although he made it sound like there was more to it than that. And I can 'rise to the occasion' if the need arises. I found it extremely odd yesterday that Mas kept his vote on me after grilling Luv so hard, so I tried 'gossiping' with him. Before I could get to his room, I was turned away by a sharp chilling sensation, and the sounds of iron clanging and a piercing shrill. Because I guess I am both a pansy and a someone who can rise to the occasion. Makessense.jpg pie. Normally I would say this is a terrible play on my part, but given GoT lore I'm afraid of the possibility of a cult. If there are white walkers I have to assume there's the possibility that at least one person has turned as well, and I'm not going to sink into recluse to save my own skin if that's the case. Night 1 I tried to inspect meta and was told I was tormented by dreams of the three-eyed raven and was kept asleep. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Shidoshi - 2014-09-07 That makes a lot of sense, y0y0y0y0shi0, for him to be a white walker given what he said. However, neutral factions are usually something for the mafia to worry about more than the town. And there is at least one white walker that isn't against the Night's Watch according to GoT lore. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-09-07 y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I'm fairly certain Mas is a white walker here. I have what appears to be a pseudo-investigative role? I'm Satin, and I can use my powers of seduction (?????) to learn something about the setup each night. I asked what that meant exactly and I guess I can learn a random small tidbit about anyone, although he made it sound like there was more to it than that. And I can 'rise to the occasion' if the need arises. I wouldn't be surprised that a White Walker would be in the game, but is probably neutral (since they want us all dead). Might be a "Wins if everyone dies." Plus I grilled Luv more than MasPan did, but you have a valid point. The Night 1 thing was most likely a roleblock, probably mafia or other neutral related. MetaSeraphim Wrote:That shows how much I am paying attention. Sorry. Yeah, I mentioned yesterday that Hypermug probably voted for TheBirds because of the onions talk TheBirds made early on being assumed to be a roleclaim to the Onion Knight, which is what Hypermug was. He never really explained his TheBirds vote but it makes sense considering the information. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - Olsi - 2014-09-07 It seems weird for bloodraven to have an influence on the wall though. It isnt his place. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-09-07 y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I'm fairly certain Mas is a white walker here. I have what appears to be a pseudo-investigative role? I'm Satin, and I can use my powers of seduction (?????) to learn something about the setup each night. I asked what that meant exactly and I guess I can learn a random small tidbit about anyone, although he made it sound like there was more to it than that. And I can 'rise to the occasion' if the need arises. [COLOR="#cc8899"] I almost never jump on bandwagons - I just don't like doing it. If you look back at any previous games I do the same thing - try to keep a secondary lynch in peoples' minds. Everyone voting for the same guy gives very, very little information by comparison. The chill and the iron make sense - I'm chained to the top of the wall where the straw men are as penance for trying to abandon my post. I have no idea what the piercing shrill is though.[/COLOR] A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-09-07 Shidoshi Wrote:That makes a lot of sense, y0y0y0y0shi0, for him to be a white walker given what he said. However, neutral factions are usually something for the mafia to worry about more than the town.I find it odd that you've seemingly pulled 2 180s on me now, changing your opinion whenever it seemed convenient? But the possibility of a cult is why I felt the need to point it out. Normally I wouldn't have paid it much mind, but I can't shake the feeling that we have a cult in this game. I've already said this game feels weird to me. A lot of things feel out of place, and a cult would actually make a lot of sense. Polantaris Wrote:Plus I grilled Luv more than MasPan did, but you have a valid point.But you weren't voting for someone else through it all. Olsi Wrote:It seems weird for bloodraven to have an influence on the wall though. It isnt his place.Which is why I have no idea what to make of it. MasPan Wrote:The chill and the iron make senseI don't think an 'abnormal wave of cold' (wording changed for obvious reasons) makes a whole lot of sense, here. Edit: I don't think a neutral that wasn't a relevant threat to the town would try and continue to hide the fact that they were a neutral. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-09-07 y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I find it odd that you've seemingly pulled 2 180s on me now, changing your opinion whenever it seemed convenient?[COLOR="#cc8899"] My power has nothing to do with cold nor a cult, unless you count my strawman buddies. But they're not much for conversation. The reason I grilled Luv so heavily was because he was putting up weak/bad arguments that I felt compelled to address. He had enough of a wagon that he was going to die regardless, so rather than just be one of 10 people voting for Luv, I decided to do something with it. And was attacked last night. And now you're accusing me of being a walker. So... ?[/COLOR] A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-09-07 MasPan Wrote:There were 2 votes on Luv by the time you started calling Luv out on their "blatant lies." That's pretty far from a guaranteed lynch. You basically had admitted earlier in the day that you wanted to lynch Luv but didn't want to draw attention to yourself in the process. That pretty much sounds like a neutral MO to me. And now you're playing the fool, "I don't know what you're talking about I'm not a cult! I'm the victim here." And the last person to pull that card was Luv. We had 10 people grilling Luv yesterday, but nobody wanted to do anything about it. I fail to see how that's guaranteed and how that doesn't strike anyone as an odd occurrence. There's something amiss if there's a near unanimous agreement that someone is scum but only a fraction of the population actually votes for them. A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - MasPan - 2014-09-07 y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:There were 2 votes on Luv by the time you started calling Luv out on their "blatant lies." That's pretty far from a guaranteed lynch. You basically had admitted earlier in the day that you wanted to lynch Luv but didn't want to draw attention to yourself in the process. That pretty much sounds like a neutral MO to me. Do what now? Where in the hell did I even remotely say that? A Song of Ice and Mafia TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-09-07 Well this is interesting. I was actually becoming a tad suspicious of MasPan last night, but wanted to work through the evidence before mentioning anything. There's probably a bit of confirmation bias to my opinion, but I definitely think there's more to MasPan than he's revealing. MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"][Vote] Salguod; I still find it very strange that someone so well versed in the ASOIAF lore would seriously consider John Snow to be the god father. We know at this point from the arrival of Stannis and Davos which MasPan himself identified that John Snow is already in charge of the Night's Watch defense and no longer with the wildlings. Depending on the exact timing, he may or may not be Lord Commander already. MasPan Wrote:I'm more wary of another of Kyrastri's followers who uses freaky blood magic and scorns our Old Gods. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]o.O[/COLOR] This is a pretty minor point and not necessarily indicative to anything. I'll just point out that the "Old Gods" can refer to either the heartwood tree pagan gods or to the White Walkers themselves. MasPan Wrote: Kyrastri; With little else to go off of, my vote is almost entirely based on flavor. Salguod; appears to be softclaiming Jon Snow ("I know nothing" being a reference to Ygritte constantly saying "You know nothing Jon Snow"). In terms of the books, Jon Snow spent a significant amount of time with the Wildlings, having an intimate relationship with one in particular (Ygritte) and betraying some of his vows as a result. If there's any major character that I feel is likely to be a turncoat, godfather, or similar type role, it's him. Whether or not he's a willing participant or a pawn in such a scenario. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]:/[/COLOR] Again, I consider this kind of reasoning to be flawed and a possible attempt to manipulate the town. As for his most recent claim, the scarecrow sentinels are certainly legitimate, but there was no one chained up there with them for disobedience. At least not that I recall from reading the books years ago. I'll also note that while his ability explains the lack of a kill last night, it also conveniently ingratiates himself to the town. A mafia member or white walker (they're already dead by some interpretations) probably have nothing to fear from the nightly murders making it a very safe claim. Shidoshi continues to strike me as suspicious because of yesterday's events. While the fake outs and reverse psychology plays are always possible, the mafia (apparently) neglected to target the town's claimed healer and presumably allow him a chance to save someone tonight. [MENTION=2796]y0y0y0y0shi0[/MENTION]; It's interesting and probably indicative of something that the "three eyed raven" tormented you. It definitely points to Bloodraven's presence as a role blocker which is particularly interesting since Holypie is using his image as an avatar. [MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; Coldhands serves Bloodraven whose presence is now likely so it's a possibility, but his allegiance isn't exactly certain even in the novels. |